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James: issue #1038
... Not a 1.2 issue
... iOS 13 seems to have implentation of this

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1035

James: proposal is to eleminate the "should" from the spec

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1037

James: could be a 1.2 milestone

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1034

James: what should we do with this?

Joanie: presentation pulls the semantics out

Matt: very interesting title
... I will talk with the issue opener

[Agenda for TPAC 2019](https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1001)

James: We have meeting with other WGs
... we want to talk with them but before we should align

Matt: we should have a discussion with them

James: we should come to a conclusion first

Matt: any AT devs out there?

James: not from the attendee list

Janina: James Craig is there? James: yes

[fix(grid): removes aria-level from grid](https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1029)

James: any objections to merge?
... ok we will merge

[Revising what ARIA attributes should be considered global](https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/999)

James: I like to have people to look at this .. any comments on the pull request?

Matt: its a bandwith thing to take care of that

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1023

James: I'm conservative side: some we believe should not be global should be explicitly named

Matt: I wonder if we dont want do do all changes in one pull request, can we break up in several categories?

James: currently 4 attributes pull request deals with
... creating separate pull for aria-haspopup make sense
... I will do that

Matt: there is already one

James: removing it from global means also used with HTML elements it won't work, 2nd if somebody has used them on role presentation role will be problematic too

<Zakim> joanie, you wanted to suggest starting with widget (superclass) rather than specific roles

James: using superclass when possible

joanie: does an input sublcass widget?

Matt: yes

joanie: if we use superclasses for that there is a danger of new roles in other tech(svg) that others will not support aria-disabled because now there are global

Matt: like aria-invalid on option role, makes no sense

(all): discussion about roles and applied properties / consequences doing thta

James: there are caveats of moving them to a higher level role
... we would like to get the spec clean not messy

Mat: i don't want to explain stuff in APG that does not make sense

James: disabled link exists

Scott: in HTML links cannot be disabled

James: if we remove that we break people
... best to create a separate pull request for that
... role parity means that you can do the same, not have to
... we do separate pull request

[Issue1019 initial draft for accessible name using caption role](https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1020)

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