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jb: Next meeting 14 August. Any advance regrets?
[crickets]
<Judy> js: RQTF of APA has approved CAPTCHA for publishing
<Judy> jb: great, when
<Judy> js: week after this
<Judy> jb: need announcements?
<Judy> js: blog, home page news, etc.
jb: Expecting work on captions in
multiple places including Timed Text, expect a Charter draft
for management review soon
... Also some captioning followup from the XR Workshop
gk: Asks about 3d/2d ... all web/ Or also printable?
jb; Believe refers to captions superimposed on a visual immersive environment, not haptic rendering ...
jb: however ...
... Questions have been on location and orientation against
background, playing with perspective, those kinds of things
gk: Diagram has the notion of a
tour of 3d objects, or 2d tactile
... Explains how to tour/explore the object
jb; Rotate holographic object?
gk: If you think of holding a
statue, you don't know what it is, then you find out things,
arms are broken off, etc.
... tells how to explore the object
js Things to notice?
jb: Don't think TT has anything like that, but this could be a good use case for XAUR
kp: Have been doing separate
work, but on transcripts which are related though not the
same
... We find transcripts more useful for entire sentences, and
for heading structured markup
... We're using notes tags
... Journalism wants more transcripts
... The slight differences make a big difference
gk: We have a CG for Chem with 3
chairs
... Having monthly calls, wiki is set up, minutes being
published
... 3 participants will be writing NSF grant proposals
... I am reluctant for this to move too quickly without
funding, because there's lots to look at and we need to play
well with next release of MathML
jb: A unified effort?
gk: Already is in MathML, but
machines can tell when you're in chemistry vs math
... That raises pronunciation issues
gik: among other issues
<Judy> js: any thoughts about being declarative about it?
<Judy> gk: yes we are thinking about that
jd: If you think ARIA think about
attrib, not a role
... We will always need to know the role, i.e. the context
jb: Curious whether any additional opinions from the wider community?
cl: Neil is leading MathML
refresh
... Peter F's Math on the Web seems to have stalled
... Not many active people in this space, so competing isn't
viable
jb: Is Peter joining this work?
cl: No, he's not a fan to MathML
/s/to/of/
jb: Has there been outreach? Are people aware this is welcoming participation?
cl: Yes. Multiple people do participate
js: Believe Peter's concern was that MathML wasn't achieving a compelling print layout
jb: Anyone doing outreach on that issue? It is important
cl: Not sure
... Emphasis seems to be on web, on reasons browsers weren't
adopting
... Going toward more reliance on CSS
gk: I know KD -- we're still
looking for cochair
... We were wanting a chair from mainstream
... No candidates yet, and there are areas in chem and math
where we see overarching solutions to the issue
... Did presentation at Accessing Higher Ground
... Good looking, navigation of structures with highlighting as
it's navigated, without correct speech and braille, all in SVG
that supports good magnification
... Seems to apply to a broad range of STEM
... Volker had cool demo of exploring aspirin
... Pushing the model into KD would be a good idea, but we need
funding
jb: Asking any update on music markup?
gk: MusicML is progressing
primarily focussed on braille scoring
... Sarah Morley Wilkins has funding to move this forward. Mtg
in June
... 20-30 participants, looking at an on line repository that
we could share
... Noting it's easier to write proposals for chem and math
than for KD, until we have a more fleshed out explanation. Who
would we approach?
jb: Wondering whether there might be a more incremental approach?
<Judy_> js: One new idea. Needs APA discussion though. Possibly could do a walk-through at TPAC.
jb: APA, please review CGs meeting at TPAC to see whether that's an opportunity to move something
<Judy_> jb: Can you have an update on community groups for Aug 14?
mc: AGWG will do joint with Silver
jb: How AOM?
jd: Alice will be present, and I am rather assuming she'll come by
js: APA will be asking her and Avneesh
gk: Agenda for the half-day
Publishers' Business event Thursday under development
... a11y is included
... Looking well organized
jb: Support OK?
gk: Yes
... Believe we're bringing in people -- Japanese publishers not
necessarily W3C aware
cl: Is that an open mtg?
gk: Did you see the agenda?
jb: It's a relevant question
whether one can just attend
... CL, you should have the connection?
cl: think so, but not sure
jb: Should be confirmable. GK?
gk: yes, will do
... Should I post info to the CC list
jb: It's a public list, seems relevant to share, but it should be clear who can attend if posted on list
gk: OK
jb: Anyone? ...
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