Silver Community Group Teleconference

28 May 2019


AngelaAccessForAll, Chuck, Cyborg, Jan, Jennifer, JohnRochford_, KimD, NicolasSteenhout, Rochford, dboudreau, jeanne
BruceBailey, ChrisL, Shri
jeanne, Shawn
Cyborg, jeanne


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<trackbot> Meeting: Silver Community Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 28 May 2019

AG WG Presentation

<jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/WCAG_to_Silver_Migration_Map

<jeanne> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GcCWKuWFNvxPacEmM0xrFTCtBVYMtM4LvkJWEMZl9fQ

<Cyborg> is someone scribing?

<Cyborg> i don't know any of the scribing commands...

<Cyborg> John Foliot - 1.3.1 and 1.3.5 rewrite not meeting non-sighted user needs?

<Cyborg> Shawn: we will work on that

<Cyborg> Jeanne: we are making notes of issues as we go

<jeanne> scribe: Cyborg

<jeanne> scribe: jeanne

<Jan> https://docs.google.com/document/d/152RdsWpzq0QqdiSeW2dk0-RTp6QZkbcOZevbfa0tQMo/edit?usp=sharing

Cyborg: [recap step 1 from AccessU template]
... As Chuck and I worked on Color Contrast, we realized that there was additional refinement for Step 2
... [reviewing step 2 and 3]
... [reviewing step 4 - testing the tests]

Chuck: We want people to think about whether or not they are introducing new barriers by the Method.
... example of a person with a problem with color contrast.

JF: But we have to think about scale, and whether a one in 5 million disability derail advice that benefits many millions of people.

Chuck: This is more about how to value it.

Cyborg: It's important to identify tests that could potentially catch side effects of Methods could happen and start measuring them.

JF: That's an important point, but what do we do with conflict resolution?
... we have research that shows that for some users increasing the contrast more readable, while others reducing the contrast solves "dancing letter" problems.

Cyborg: It's an important issue that we don't have a solution to yet.

JF: I appreciate that we are mapping out the map and I don't want to lose the question.

Chuck: This isn't about solving every problem, it's more about how to help us solve "writer's block" and help us write good content.
... how do we update old content, and add good new content.

Cyborg: Review of Step 5: Quality Control - did the process fill in the plain language prototype?
... With a goal of turning this into a form and allow us to review and evaluate the proposal.

Jeanne: Who would like to have their draft of migration content reviewed on Friday?
... Audio Description and Headings are the furthest along

Cyborg: Headings needs a lot more work to bring it into line with this process.
... Is Step 2 correct?

Chuck: It's how to get at the quality

JF: Any test has to be testing the material created by the author
... I think about testing the quality of alt text. We only have tests for the mechanical
... writing tests for the quality is a string of true false tests. It's a path test.

SHawn: I think we will have to figure out the detail test for quality of alt text

Jeanne: Jan and I wrote a rubric test for a Method in the Headings that I want you to look at that gives another approach to a quality test.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVmg0MVHeJipg2ovENQtIkCzbq2izWeGKWaIqYLf0M4/edit#h.70i9zxlz0044 - Step 2, (New) Rubric for measuring quality headings

process for writing content

jeanne: my scribe failure. All the proceeding content is on the process.

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Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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Default Present: JohnRochford_, corbb, bruce_bailey, Shri, Jan, Amy, Jenn, MaryJo, Daniel, Erik, jeanne, Cyborg, Chuck, Jennifer, BeckyGibson, NicolasSteenhout, JimAllan, Rochford, DanielMontalvo, Makoto, Cyborg_, Lauriat, RedRoxProjects, CharlesHall, johnkirkwood, KimD, EricE, ChrisLoiselle, dboudreau, AngelaAccessForAll, shari, Rachael, JF
Present: AngelaAccessForAll Chuck Cyborg Jan Jennifer JohnRochford_ KimD NicolasSteenhout Rochford dboudreau jeanne
Regrets: BruceBailey ChrisL Shri
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Found Date: 28 May 2019
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