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Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

21 May 2019

Agenda

Attendees

Present
JaeunJemmaKu, MarkMcCarthy, jamesn, AnnAbbott, carmacleod, jongund
Regrets
EvanYamanishi, BryanGaraventa, CurtBellew
Chair
JaEun Jemma Ku
Scribe
AnnAbbott

Contents


<Jemma> trackbot, status?

<trackbot> #aria-apg is associated with #aria.

<Jemma> ageada+ Issue Triage

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-21%2C-2019-Meeting

<scribe> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-21,-2019-Meeting

<scribe> scribe: AnnAbbott

Date picker example review

Date picker issue 34: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/34

<Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/issue34-date-picker-examples/examples/datepicker/datepicker-combobox.html

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/34

<Jemma> 1)removing aria-expanded and 2)adding autocomplete in input type="text")

<Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/issue34-date-picker-examples/examples/datepicker/datepicker-combobox.html

Date picker example with combobox: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/issue34-date-picker-examples/examples/datepicker/datepicker-combobox.html

<Jemma> <input type="text" placeholder="mm/dd/yyyy" id="id-textbox-1" aria-autocomplete="none" aria-controls="id-datepicker-1">

Jemma: why remove aria-expanded?

jn: on iOS, date picker will not launch
... seems to be focused outside textbox

Sarah: aria-owns works much better on iOS

<Jemma> <div id="myDatepicker" class="datepicker" role="combobox" aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="dialog" aria-owns="myDatepickerDialog" aria-labelledby="id-label-1"> <div class="date"> <label id="id-label-1" for="id-textbox-1">Date</label> <input type="text" placeholder="mm/dd/yyyy" id="id-textbox-1" aria-autocomplete="none" aria-controls="id-datepicker-1"> <span class="arrow up"> <svg width="18" height="18">

jg: Matt wants it to work per spec, not according on how it actually works
... aria-expanded taken off per Matt
... applied to button also - need to ask Matt

Carolyn: arrow keys work in calendar drop down and allow change of month
... would prefer mouse work same way
... mouse should switch month just like arrow keys do
... making APG examples consumable by mouse-oriented dev
... will comment in PR

jg: will send example to James Craig for his input

Carolyn: what should enter key do in combobox?

Jemma: add as comment?

Sarah: enter key should submit form
... change month with mouse, can't access dates with kbd

Jemma: emphasis on what should be done, not what currently works

jg: icon looks like calendar for visual affordance

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/34

jg: button works as target to open grid

Alert dialog issue

<Sarah_Higley> sorry for taking up extra time :)

Alert dialog:; https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/756

Jemma: button is timing out

<Jemma> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/?versions=2.0&showtechniques=221#timing-adjustable

carolyn: toast mssgs are confirmation (Save )
... status mssgs disappearing don't fail 2..2.1

jn: opinion of WCAG WG would have to be documented

Content info issue

Content info: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/642

Carolyn: if content info has ONLY links, should it have nav landmark?
... screen reader users surveyed and want 4 - 6 landmarks

<MarkMcCarthy> +1 to this change, agree with James' comment.

jn: need PR for guidance

<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to +1 this change. Perhaps guidance that a duplicative nav section should not get a nav

Triage open issues missing labels

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+no%3Alabel

Issue triage: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+no%3Alabel

#1031: label as editorial

<Jemma> https://w3c.github.io/html-aria/

#1030: label as feedback

#1026: needs PR, label as example

Future meetings and other business

Next Tues, May 28 is next meeting (Jemma on vacation)

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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Present: JaeunJemmaKu MarkMcCarthy jamesn AnnAbbott carmacleod jongund
Regrets: EvanYamanishi BryanGaraventa CurtBellew
Found Scribe: AnnAbbott
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Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-21%2C-2019-Meeting
Found Date: 21 May 2019
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