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Personalization Task Force Teleconference

20 May 2019

Attendees

Present
janina, JF, CharlesL, sharon, Lisa
Regrets
thadd, becky
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
sharon

Contents


<janina> Hi, unable to get Webex to accept the 9 digit code

<LisaSeemanKest> it might be too early?

<LisaSeemanKest> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/rewrite-prototype/content/index.html

<janina> Ah, Lisa, I misread the clock! My bad and you are correct! Too early!

<LisaSeemanKest> :)

<LisaSeemanKest> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Options-for-symbol

<JF> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Prototypes-with-data-dash-*-(Take-2)

<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: sharon

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<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2019May/0000.html

Janina: Catpcha, APA working on Captcha and got a lot of good comments from industry. Now expecting to publish as 2nd wide review. Expecting after the review it will go final. Everyone her has a vote in APA. Fresh read from all. Anything there that shouldn't be or missing?
... Read when able and provide comments at the URI.

Lisa: Will pass it to COGA

<LisaSeemanKest> thanks john

Charles: Update on Web4all. Thinks we should have presented a paper. The hackathon afterward was good. 60 people signed up - only 35 showed. Did not get the personalization work, those folks did not show either. Good strides made for Jupyter Lab and making it accessible.
... Make a library that folks can download and use for image descriptions. Will pass around for people to look at.

John: 130 action terms that are part of his browser extension. Will dig it out later this week and share it for review.

<LisaSeemanKest> zakim close item 4

John: Might be good for data-purpose, data-action and data-destination

<Zakim> janina, you wanted to ask Charles whether Apple is aware of the Norton UX work on Summary/Details?

Janina: John can you send a list of the business cards you were collecting. W3C is trying to extend participation.
... Is very interesting in the system and authoring as well as browser experience that when ready that we get the browsers alerted to it.

vocablary checking

Lisa: Were there people there that you can introduce to the task force. That would be good to get more people.

<LisaSeemanKest> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/rewrite-prototype/content/index.html

Lisa: Now that we have different names, etc. do we want to update it on missing or redundant items.

<LisaSeemanKest> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/index.html#distraction-explanation

John: Look at distraction ad, pages that feature ads is a business model and no one will do it. It will break the business model.

Lisa: Lets focus on the 3 things we agreed on. We will need to agree on a process and create a new wiki page.
... Vocabularies we are looking at are action, destination, and purpose.
... Will make a subsection on distraction so we don't loose our thoughts.

<Zakim> JF, you wanted to ask which page is our master page? I have multip;le URLs that are all related to this

Janina: Will write up the use case for disctractions.

<JF> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/rewrite-prototype/content/index.html

<JF> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/index.html#values

<LisaSeemanKest> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/index.html

John: Actual module is the definitive draft.
... What are we using, GitHub, GitHack, etc. Just trying to document and it seems to be moving.

Lisa: We are using as a scratchpad we use the W3C wiki. For normative it is in Github and we use raw Git to view it.
... Will move the topic for a coordination call with Roy so we can have a list of where we kept the documents.
... 2 things are review what we have obvious things like bad terms, and the other is to compare with other taxonomies.

John: Using sort there are duplications, such as chat and comment.

Lisa: If there are no other items, is someone willing to take the lead to do a review?
... Will make a wiki with the headings of the taxonomy for discussion.

Charles: We should look at duplicate terms as a whole.

Lisa: Should we do the vocabulary review or wait?

John: See comment as a conflict. Thought we would use the same tokens as autocomplete. Are we adding a new token?

Lisa: We should make the wiki and ask everyone to review.

Janina: Go to browser is Chrome she has noticed that ads are flagged as advertising. If a person could control consumption there may be times a user wants to see an ad. There is also a vision case for ads, not just cognitive.
... A lot of related stories when looking at an article. Lots of content is buried. Will add this as another use case.

Lisa: The comment is an important field where they add comments. A comment can't be autocomplete.

<Zakim> JF, you wanted to ask whether that's a User Agent solution, or marked up by the content author?

<Zakim> janina, you wanted to speak about adds

John: If we are going to use comment it should either be destination or purpose but not both.

Charles: Regarding what John said, you can have a button that takes you to a field that has comments. It could relate to both.

<LisaSeemanKest> john is doing a review of redudencies and issues with current list

<JF> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Prototypes-with-data-dash-*-(Take-2)

Lisa: Can anyone look for related taxonomies and if we are missing anything?
... John's page is helpful for a sanity check.
... 2 group actions, one being related taxonomies. HTML5, autocomplete. Are there others?

Janina: Will try to write up scenarios but short on time.

Charles: Would it help to have a column if it is included in autocomplete?

John: We can capture this data on the wiki page.

Charles: will ask Roy to add the column.

Lisa: Asked Janina to look at vocabularies, but we can all do that.

<LisaSeemanKest> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Options-for-symbol

<LisaSeemanKest> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Prototypes-with-data-dash-*-(Take-2)

<CharlesL> Meeting: Personalization Task Force Weekly Meeting

<CharlesL> trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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