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ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group Teleconference

15 May 2019

Attendees

Present
Matt_King, Yohta, Jean-Francois_Hector
Regrets
Chair
Matt King
Scribe
mck

Contents


Yota's assertion document

<shimizuyohta> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_MxhbNXq8b-ThbH9LVK7vvCFzZfYRr20PZF5xytFz0w/edit#gid=1903042947

<shimizuyohta> https://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/menubar/menubar-1/menubar-1.html

Jaws Speech History for navigating into mythical university manubar example:

[down]

Mythical University navigation region

[down]

About menu sub menu collapsed menu

[insert+up]

sub menu collapsed menuAbout menu sub menu collapsed menu

<Jean-Francois_Hector> https://cucumber.io/docs/gherkin/reference/

We discussed the details of the values of first several rows of the JAWS tab of Yota's spreadsheet.

We talked about leaving the navigation region out of the tests for menubar because it is not directly related to menubar, it is a landmark region test.

Could go either way with this; the tests are associated with specific roles so not every role needs to be a part of the menubar pattern to be tested.

as part of the menubar page tests.

Also talked about how multiple rows represent a single test comand, down arrow.

There is no way, from the spread sheet, to determine that all 3 rows are part of a single set of givens, and a single command, that has three expectations.

Need a column that can tie sets of rows like that together.

Talked about how Gherkin could help with that.

However, for the light weight model, where we are using spreadhseets, we need more of a relational model.

Use cases for aria-at contributors

Discussed the types of problems that are associated with the smaller set of contributors managing the project.

Example, how do we resolve disagreements about expected results for a specific command.

Part of understanding what problems we might have is anticipatory.

We need to ensure we are anticipating correctly so that the project can hit its objectives.

If we don't have appropriate controls and processes, the project will not be trustworthy.

JF working on capturing contributor use cases; we will discuss at future meeting.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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