<AnnAbbott> Scribe: AnnAbbott
<jemma> Scribe: Ann
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-7%2C-2019-Meeting
<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say maybe introductions?
Round of introductions
mck: put out carousel in Jan as simplest example
<MarkMcCarthy> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/971
mck: : Pause Stop always visible is in Jon's PR
Jon's PR is Issue #1007: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/1007
jg: this is the old one, not newest
<jamesn> +1 to color contrast issues with the buttons when not focused
jg: higher contrast on buttons on
hover
... has other carousel examples that can be included
jn: this example does fail WCAG 2.1
mck; if fails WCAG 2.1, we shouldn't include
jn: remove buttons from image
(exist outside image)
... don't show buttons unless focus goes to area?
siri: wants controls shown or users don't know it is a carousel
<Jesse_Hausler> Jemma, https://www.lightningdesignsystem.com/components/carousel/
mck: to pass WCAG 2.1 proposal, what are the options?
jn: buttons exist out of image or contrast passes
Jesse: our example is tab based -
buttons are off image
... pause button is disabled when focus moves into carousel and
on hover
mck: buttons outside image and persistent is preferable
jn: contrast must be 3:1
<Jesse_Hausler> Text on backgrounds guidelines, https://www.lightningdesignsystem.com/accessibility/guidelines/text-on-backgrounds/
Jesse: sharing link
mck: buttons outside image seems better
jg: buttons currently are not opaque
mck: move all buttons outside image
<Sarah> I just mentioned eye control and dragon/voice control as cases that might have issues with buttons hidden behind hover/focus states
mck: second choice is to make button contrast compliant
<Sarah> James kind of mentioned this already, but are dual-tone buttons (e.g. a black circle with a white arrow) in consideration?
Carolyn: buttons could pass contrast if they had 3 pixel border
<jamesn> +1
<jemma> +1
<MarkMcCarthy> +1
<jemma> easy fix
<CurtBellew> +1
<jamesn> (I wasn't aware of a 3px requirement)
jg: not in state to discuss - making changes
<siri> Iam also not aware of it, please send me the link if you find any :)
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/1028
mck: don't have enough examples
to replace menubar for site navigation
... buttons with aria-expanded
... to make another version of site navigation example
<jongund> https://aitg.disability.illinois.edu/courses/widgets/slide30.html
mck: links follow button in tab
order
... instead of having links load dummy page, reload same page
with new content
Jesse: disclosures next to each other are considered an accordion
mck: accordion always has
header
... there is no accordion role
... goal is to have this be as lite-weight as possible (bare
bones)
... accordion pattern contains things that just feel like noise
for this example
... Volunteers?
jg: would be happy to help
someone who volunteers
... only one remains open at a time, correct?
mck: no mouse behaviors included in requirements
<jemma> https://www.usa.gov/
mck: shouldn't do anything
automatically
... except close prior menu of links
<Sarah> I don't think my mic is working anymore -- I've been trying to say that I can make it if you're looking for someone
jg: lots of variations on this pattern
<jemma> Thanks, Sarah!
mck: Carolyn did a boatload of work on mouse behavior
Carolyn: will be happy to include
mck: longterm goal is to have multiple examples with documented differences
<jemma> carolyn, do you have an open issue in git?
next meeting: May 14, 2019
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