<Judy> scribe: Steve
<jeanne> regrets for 8 May
<Judy> NEXT MEETING MAY 8TH
james: regular Aria working draft publication in mid may
joanie: still focused on role parity right now but need to evaluate how many ARIA roles to add
judy: do other WGs depend on aria so want to be in the know?
joanie: will keep other groups in mind before we publish
judy: I keep checking back, seems to have palteaued at 15 members
janina: hoping to find a co facilitator but no response to email
judy: saw Bill Kasdorf (?). Running 1/2 year behind TPAC so may need to restart momentum
concerned that unless somehting happens soonish it will become even harder
any thoughts on next steps
janina, it is important for moving the web forward
still a priorty to find facilitator - should be someone from Library sciences
judy: A forum by MIT 2 weeks ago about Library Science accessibility
wnated to pull together a Library science discussion with strong a11y plus diversity themes
i attended part
after a few of us discussed doing as a Community Group
will put Katy (?) in touch with Janina, for potential facilitator interest in the KDCG
Draft grid for TPAC meetings now available. A swap already requested by APA and thanks to ARIA group for agreeing
<Brent> EOWG confirmed our meeting days are correct.
<Judy> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/schedule.html
everyone should make sure group info is correct as required
I'll keep checking on
janina APA aiming for back of week
jeanne: Silver also will be there
Judy: Silver is listed for the developer meetup on Mon Sept 16
oh, looks like a display anomaly.
judy: suggest check for community group attendance
<Brent> Jeanne, EOWG is Mon and Tuesday as well. If you want to coordinate any kind of Silver/EO touch base let us know as summer progresses.
cant see any a11y community group meetups - surprised by that
Silver rolled it in to day
Judy: as mentioned in last cord call the recent AC meeting (member confidential as usual)
W3C look into more agile peublish process
lots of discussion about Horizontal review
and different app format used in China
Judy and W3C starting to explore this
maybe no dom in mini apps? Is any one else looking into this at all.
katie may be software not web but converge testing
steve: is this wechat?
judy: yes - super apps which have mini apps
katie: there is already some a11y testing guidance for these apps.
janina: DOM is not required for accessibility - eg linux
Judy, so is there a proble wit hA11y APIS when there is no DOM
so perhaps we should start checking now
katie: I don think we need to worry. Some ATs use DOM as well as OS APIs
joanmarrie: sounds correct but I missed some of discussion.
Judy: where would this be mentioned? WCAG, UAG? This could be critical.
W3C is not necessary specific to Web - it could support more
janina: should think in terms of User Agents and think terms of using plat form A11y APIs
<Ryladog> This is not new stuff, it is just software using web protocols (not a browser). The tools have to work with the AAPIs of operating systems
<Ryladog> SEction 508 already does this
jeanne, wcag should apply and aps will be included in Silver
katie: Section 508 is already applying WCAG to software - like web to ICT
<jeanne> WCAG doesn't apply because of strict definition of Web. UAAG applies, but is not REC. Silver plans to cover this area, but there may be opposition from the AC.
especially if we are adding WGs for networks
judy: for apps in Silver I'm wonder if pushback you are experience is old>
jeanne - some are keen to include apps as well
<Judy> jb: perhaps (super rough) in cases where mini-apps aren't using the dom, especially important to use accessibility api's" -- with note that this probably fits scope of a potential update to WCAG2ICT
jb: want to stay on topic of super apps, mini apps and APIs
for AGW charter - one of key things I will be tracking advanced scope
many conversations seem to mention some sort of UA
eg low vision TF items that didn't make it 2.1, and might not make it into 2.2, rely on UA support, andand may be somehting for Silver
I'm curious if any comments here from others for high level assumptions on UAG
katie: another intersection is Gaming
WCAG to ICT means convergence with UAs as AT
jeanne: proposal in Silver is to set up guidleines that apply across many technologies
and then look at how entire accessibility stack might alter the advice
oriented to how all the aspects of the stack would implement that guidenace
<Judy> steve: very clear that something like the high-contrast theme, it is usually cross-cutting concerns
<Judy> katie: but this is beyond browsers
<Judy> ...user agents, as far as web goes, is not @@@
<Judy> steve: browsers, just one area on the stack
<Judy> jeanne: important to note that this is not yet worked out on a detailed level. we would not make requirements normative for the stack.
jeanne, will are not expect normative advice for across stack
<janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Games_Workshop_Position_Paper
Judy, let's drop item 8 as Matthew has a paper out
janina we should help him
Judy: any info shares?
jb: you mentioned Authoring Guidance - do you have details?
jeanne, yes I'll dig it out.
we wish the AG working group and expect some discussion on scope- we should help them
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