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Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

04 Apr 2019

Attendees

Present
Jim, Wayne, Shawn, Laura, Erich
Regrets
Jason, JoAnne, Jon
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
JimA

Contents


<shawn> Yes, tunnel vision included throughout <https://www.w3.org/TR/low-vision-needs/> (also, fyi: "Although increasing size is most common, some people with tunnel vision and good visual acuity may prefer smaller letters so they can see more words at a time.")

<shawn> ACTION: shawn to in user needs, around reflow, consider mentioning tunnel

<trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - In user needs, around reflow, consider mentioning tunnel [on Shawn Henry - due 2019-04-11].

<shawn> Shawn: put moderate/shorter one on LVTF survey (so people can comment outside of the telecon)

<shawn> Wayne: [individual] not like "tunnel vision".

<scribe> ACTION: jim to create survey for reflow intent

<trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Create survey for reflow intent [on Jim Allan - due 2019-04-11].

reviewing long version http://nosetothepage.org/WCAG/1410/Und1410Change.html

<shawn> all: change to restricted outter field -- no, even better Peripheral field losss

<shawn> all: although people know "tunnel vision" maybe want to use common terminolpgy?

<shawn> in user needs, we have "Peripheral field loss: People only see in the central portion of their visual field, sometimes called “tunnel vision”."

<shawn> [ discussion of "blurry vision" vs other terminology ]

congenital vs acquired vision that lacks clarity

<shawn> Shawn wonders if "blurry" terminology more common description by people who acquired vision los later in life, versus congenital

laura: designers and developers will understand blurry and tunnel vision

shawn: in Understanding use more common words to get concept across. in User Need doc use more formal language

review 1.4.4 intent http://nosetothepage.org/WCAG/1410/Und1410Change.html

wd: some mobile browsers don't support zoom and reflow

<laura> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/660

<laura> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wcag/blob/a9922115fe4be9ff79533caef1b54dec071bd733/understanding/21/reflow.html

<laura> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/MiscItems04022019/results#xq10

wd: discusses "The relation of Reflow to the Success Criterion 1.4.4 Resize Text"
... math doesn't make sense. removes reflow
... if the font becomes too small, then no one can read it. This should not be the relationship of reflow to 1.4.4

jim will put waynes short intent with the section from long intent about relation to 1.4.4 in a survey.

close item 2

Contrast

Label Proximity

<shawn> deferred for Jon attendance

issue 623 is an issue

Erich questions

what prevents authors overriding AT, content disappearing, is it related only to WHCM.

<laura> Jon’s Issue 623 Do issues with Windows high contrast mode fall under WCAG 2.1?

<laura> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/623

<laura> F3: Failure of Success Criterion 1.1.1 due to using CSS to include images that convey important information

<laura> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/F3.html

remain vigilant, many what this failure to go away

<scribe> ACTION: Erich to report on contrast issues from CSUN

<trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Report on contrast issues from csun [on Erich Manser - due 2019-04-11].

WCAG 2.2 SCs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11IKqjRFvkRd2dAfUiyc5whhB3yIYXvSiirWct7KQIB0/edit#gid=0

- Proximity of related inf

- page refresh

- focus visible

jim - focus is a browser issue.

<scribe> ACTION: Jim to make a survey about new SC vs supplemental guidance

<trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Make a survey about new sc vs supplemental guidance [on Jim Allan - due 2019-04-11].

wd: put section on Tools/extensions for supplemental guidance

<laura> bye

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Erich to report on contrast issues from CSUN
[NEW] ACTION: jim to create survey for reflow intent
[NEW] ACTION: Jim to make a survey about new SC vs supplemental guidance
[NEW] ACTION: shawn to in user needs, around reflow, consider mentioning tunnel
 

Summary of Resolutions

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