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<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/February-25,-2019-Meeting

mck: propose we discuss tooltip at 10:37

Jemma will update agenda

House keeping update

mck: CSpell - want to integrate?
... is it easy to exclude attributes?

Evan: doesn't think it will be that hard

mck: will need to document exclusions
... would like to move forward on it
... what do we do when it fails?
... have category of tests that are informational and don't stop deployment

Evan: could do that

mck: currently is run manually

Evan: include in Test stage but make it non-blocking

mck: won't rename aria-practices.htm to index.html - look at it next week

Issue triage

<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+no%3Alabel

mck: current Release 1.4 is already full
... only add to 1.4 if community is demanding
... starting at top to keep issue stakeholders current

<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/991

mck: Issue 991 - need to find older issue for continuing discussion

Issue 990: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/990

Date Picker Pattern

<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/57

mck: LOTS of ways to make date pickers
... no specific aria states/properties/kbd for date picker
... maybe lists of examples

aa: likes idea of having list of examples

siri: aria-current could be on today's date

bg: or aria-current on currently selected date

mck: aria-current dependent on example
... volunteer to create draft of description and examples

jg: Mark and Jon will work on

Jemma: what is starting point?:

mck: first example is one Jon is working on
... Jon's goes under combobox also
... spin button is another - date picker and spin button

bg: because date pickers are so varied, can't provide examples of everything

<jamesn> +1 to Bryan's comment.... if we don't limit it I think this is going to be a HUGE timesink

Tooltip Pattern Example

<jemma> https://s.codepen.io/Moiety/debug/4b0ba1c28c9d8e50cf7e54f925728aea

<MichielBijl> Link to thee example https://s.codepen.io/Moiety/debug/4b0ba1c28c9d8e50cf7e54f925728aea

<MichielBijl> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/128

<MichielBijl> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/127

<MichielBijl> https://inclusive-components.design/tooltips-toggletips/

mb: uses aria-describedby, but are currently used as label for button
... does group agree with these examples?

Siri: doesn't prefer to use as label

mck: what if tooltip is used both as aria-label and aria-labelledby?:
... irrelevant whether it appears on hover or focus
... doesn't think role="tooltip" provide any value

bg: purpose is for correct mapping

jn: noted two issues regarding zoom with Michiel's examples

Future meetings and other business

Next meeting is on March 4: Agenda topics?

No meeting March 11 due to CSUN

March 18 for date picker pattern

jg: unable to attend 3/18

Mark: 3/18 is fine

mck: Jon - date picker touch vs click behavior next week

<siri> You are right Michiel :)

mck: Bocoup starting on 6 guidance sections - labeling/describing will be first
... will have update on that next week

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