<scribe> scribe: janina
ia: Notes this our first
meeting
... Notes many of us are new--so be gentle!
... begins intros of folks present ...
<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=110437&public=1
ia: Next meeting is next Tuesday at 0900 Boston
<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/110437/teleconference/results
<Irfan_Ali> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki
ia: Notes he's assigned by ETS to
work on the solution
... Asks mh for history and proposed approach
mh: Notes other orgs are
participating who also care deeply about a viable
solution
... Notes prevelance of "hacks" to achieve resulsts to
date
... Strongly suggested we should look for a standards-based
solution instead
... A common authoring style
... Read aloud and screen reader tools could then consume
consistently
... Initially worked on this in IMS
... Made proposal in IMS to base a solution on SSML
... Didn't solve most critical problem ...
... Tests delivered in html, which didn't support the
solution
... Discussed at CSUN, and take away was to go to W3C for
solution
... First presented to ARIA-WG for an ARIA attribute
approach
... Eventually steered to APA as the better locus for this work
in W3C/WAI
... Notes, while ETS has a proposed solution, we do want to
look at other possibilities
... We need easy to author, and easy for user tech to
support
<Irfan_Ali> http://www.ets-research.org/ia11ylab/ssmltool/
mh: Examples available on the wiki
ia: Suggests people consider
mh: Notes ssml can be used in
html, but ...
... Tools didn't want to see that approach
... If we can inline ssml into html in a way that the wider web
community would accept, we'd be ok
... But we need an approach that is widely accepted
ia: Recalls there are other W3C hosted approaches
mh: PLS and CSS included
... PLS supported by many TTS, a file-based lexicon
... PLS could solve part of the problem, but probably not all
of it
... Other is approx 15-year old CSS-Speech, also known as Aural
Style Sheet
... A CSS styling for aural presentations
... Problem is it has not garnered wide acceptance
... Apple proportedly supports in Safari, but we've been unable
to get it to work
ia: Microsoft is uninterested in supporting it
mh: Growing number of TTS
engines, e.g. Google, Apple, etc natively support SsML
... Again, the missing piece is how to get ssml into html and
get user agent support
<Irfan_Ali> janina: gap analysis, documents, use cases in next meeting
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