Pronunciation TF Teleconference

20 Feb 2019


Roy, Irfan_Ali, janina, mhakkinen, Christine, Dee


<scribe> scribe: janina

Member’s Introduction

ia: Notes this our first meeting
... Notes many of us are new--so be gentle!
... begins intros of folks present ...

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=110437&public=1

Meeting Schedule

ia: Next meeting is next Tuesday at 0900 Boston

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/110437/teleconference/results

Background and Proposed solution

<Irfan_Ali> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki

ia: Notes he's assigned by ETS to work on the solution
... Asks mh for history and proposed approach

mh: Notes other orgs are participating who also care deeply about a viable solution
... Notes prevelance of "hacks" to achieve resulsts to date
... Strongly suggested we should look for a standards-based solution instead
... A common authoring style
... Read aloud and screen reader tools could then consume consistently
... Initially worked on this in IMS
... Made proposal in IMS to base a solution on SSML
... Didn't solve most critical problem ...
... Tests delivered in html, which didn't support the solution
... Discussed at CSUN, and take away was to go to W3C for solution
... First presented to ARIA-WG for an ARIA attribute approach
... Eventually steered to APA as the better locus for this work in W3C/WAI
... Notes, while ETS has a proposed solution, we do want to look at other possibilities
... We need easy to author, and easy for user tech to support

<Irfan_Ali> http://www.ets-research.org/ia11ylab/ssmltool/

mh: Examples available on the wiki

ia: Suggests people consider

mh: Notes ssml can be used in html, but ...
... Tools didn't want to see that approach
... If we can inline ssml into html in a way that the wider web community would accept, we'd be ok
... But we need an approach that is widely accepted

ia: Recalls there are other W3C hosted approaches

mh: PLS and CSS included
... PLS supported by many TTS, a file-based lexicon
... PLS could solve part of the problem, but probably not all of it
... Other is approx 15-year old CSS-Speech, also known as Aural Style Sheet
... A CSS styling for aural presentations
... Problem is it has not garnered wide acceptance
... Apple proportedly supports in Safari, but we've been unable to get it to work

ia: Microsoft is uninterested in supporting it

mh: Growing number of TTS engines, e.g. Google, Apple, etc natively support SsML
... Again, the missing piece is how to get ssml into html and get user agent support

<Irfan_Ali> janina: gap analysis, documents, use cases in next meeting

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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