close lvtf-ACTION-107
<trackbot> Closed lvtf-ACTION-107.
<scribe> scribe: Jim
open item 1
https://www.w3.org/TR/2019/CR-css-scroll-snap-1-20190131/
there are issues, but don't have any solutions
shawn: step one, make them aware of the issues
https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-scroll-snap-using-css--cms-30333
<laura> File an issue: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/labels/css-scroll-snap-1
laura: file an issue on github
shawn: let them know asap, then fill in the details and explanation
<shawn> "This document will remain a Candidate Recommendation at least until 1 May 2019 in order to ensure the opportunity for wide review." gives some breathing room, yet still good to get it on their radar sooner rather than later
<scribe> ACTION: jim will work with jon to create problem statement for snap scroll
<trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Will work with jon to create problem statement for snap scroll [on Jim Allan - due 2019-02-14].
<scribe> ACTION: jim to file an issue on snap scroll github
<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - File an issue on snap scroll github [on Jim Allan - due 2019-02-14].
WG is preceding with 2.2
<laura> [css-scroll-snap] More work needs to be done to address what happens when users with low vision zoom #3602: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3602
JonA: filed an issue on
snap-scroll. Group said it was already covered.
... if zoomed in, you can scroll to bottom, then it will
snap.
... would be good to have an accessibility note about
issues
<laura> title attribute warning in html5: https://www.w3.org/TR/html/dom.html#the-title-attribute
jonA: the whole screen changes, loose context, and orientation
jim: can control the snapping with scroll bar but must hold the mouse button down on slider
jonA: possible style sheet override.
jim: need to test
laura: perhaps use 'prefers-reduced-motion' media query to stop snap scroll
jason: OS level control, to stop animation. perhaps have this apply in browser to stop snapping
laura: James Craig led the media query effort
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back to new WG process
WG want the complete package - SC, Understanding, Testing before it goes in document
silver is 2-3 years out. perhaps work on silver and 2.2 simultaneously
proposed SC https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11IKqjRFvkRd2dAfUiyc5whhB3yIYXvSiirWct7KQIB0/edit#gid=0
Laura: what are our priorities for SCs
listing of LV SC
- visual affordance of focus and controls
- focus control (page refresh)
- Proximity of related information
no preference from group
jonA: proximity could be technique 3.3.2 (advisory), not sure if actual technique or place holder
perhaps affordance could be technique for 1.4.11
jim: thinks focus control is a SC candidate
time and effort - SC vs techniques/best practices
jonA: best practices are more
approachable
... focus is difficult, because of the browser exemption.
... it is critical.
... put justification as techique for 1.4.8
... focus on mouse vs keyboard, turn off selectively. What is
our stance on focus variability. This is from web
incubator.
jim: related to hover focus issues.
jonA; another browser behavior issue.
<jon_avila> WICG concurrent focus discussion https://github.com/WICG/focus-visible/issues/128
RESOLUTION: LVTF prioritizes focus and control affordance to be a critice SC
trackbot, end meeting
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