Winter pause

Steven: No call for next two weeks. Next call Jan 9th.

ACTION-2207: Merge <signal/> into <dispatch/>

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Dec/0009

Steven: Done; see spec for result

Cleaning up attributes

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Dec/0012

Steven: Is there a reason that we have no @bind on <bind/>?

Erik: A bind wouldn't be able to refer to itself, or a child of itself.
... or mutual recursion

Steven: So you think it's just to make life easier?

Erik: I don't think there's a need for it, and it would need to be restricted.
... Leave as is.

Steven: I think <submission/> not using "Single node binding" must be an oversight.

Erik: Agree.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to fix submission to use single item binding

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2210 - Fix submission to use single item binding [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-12-26].

ACTION-2196: Spec up collapsing sections

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Dec/0002

Steven: So it seems like a single attribute stating that it is collapsible is enough and giving the state open/closed.
... I sent some suggestions. Eg:

<group state="closed">

<group state="open">

<group mode="closed">

<group mode="open">

<group state="closed">

<group state="open">

<group collapse="closed">

<group collapse="open">

<group fold="closed">

<group fold="open">

Erik: I'm not sure I like that specifying the state implies the appearance.

Steven: So you want both?

Erik: I think so
... you need something to specify the state

Steven: As an AVT as well?

s/AVT/

Alain: Two values of @appearance?

Steven: That was my suggestion last week, that Erik didn't like.
... That is why we are discussing this this week.

Erik: It might introduce a dynamic appearance, which we don't have at the moment.
... So better to say that it is collapsible, and then add state.
... that is two things instead of oen, I agree.

Alain: So @state would be extensible

Steven: Possible in the future

Erik: The name of the attribute is a different question

Steven: So we have to agree on a value for @appearance, and a name for the other attribute.

Erik: I'm not a fan of using 'appearance="compact"'
... something more explicit is better
... collapsible or synonym.

Steven: I'll come up with some suggestions.

XForms in 3D

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Dec/0011

Steven: I'll put this off until Philip is here.

AOB

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Steven: Have a good break!

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