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Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

06 Dec 2018

Attendees

Present
kim, Kathy, JakeAbma, MarcJohlic, Detlev
Regrets
Chair
Kathleen_Wahlbin
Scribe
kim

Contents


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wRAViPfAJ4Ytqc71tGZp6gU07HNd2QQaNgtJsog-D90/edit#gid=0

concurrent mechanisms at AAA

Kathy: challenge focus indicators different

Kim: using different mechanisms as a mix – mechanisms don't have to know about each other, just user using method of choice for any given moment

Jake: just a choice for a person building a specific widget – not that one is better than the other it's just a choice.
... focus management must be so that the browser focus as well as the accessibility tree focus are on the same point, the same component. This is an option you may use if you do have a box with a read-only input field so when you start typing it won't change the input field and you want the browser focus as well as the mouse focus
... just switch to the next mechanism – two focuses, accessibility focus and browser focus
... Google not real combo box browser focuses on but the moment you start typing suggest but the mouse focus will be in the accessibility tree focus so it's a choice what component you like if those two focuses are exactly the same, browser, mouse access tree or you split them – that's a choice for what type of component you would like to build and those two options are available

Detlev: I completely agree – I wasn't suggesting we restrict things in any way but there are different choices depending on the scenario. Good or bad choices are trade-offs where one thing is better for – mouse focus same as keyboard focus might be best practice but for others is distracting just have cursor and anything else there is distraction. So a trade-off no clear you must do this or that, and that exactly brings me to the point that I still don't[CUT]
... … Understand, what is needed to focus concurrent mechanisms – what this actually does. What is the actual requirement. What would you want and what might be techniques to meet those. I still don't Quite understand

biometrics

Kathy: Maybe potentially covered under 1.1.1

Shadi: but biometrics is input – it's different that way, facing camera or put your finger. But essentially the same and really simple. I think where this came from is when we were talking early this week I was saying I'd like to go through the European standard and see what's in there. There are some really simple things that are traditionally not under web but are now finding more space for this – this biometrics thing is under general requirements in [CUT]
... you can now use your finger to login etc. – very closed now, but biometrics and authentication mechanisms increasingly used

Detlev: also icon and will put in your password under some conditions – I'm not sure what conditions and whether that is something the web author can influence – where that comes from I'm not sure

Shadi: whether the author can influence earn or not it's third-party aspects. If you are providing such a login method that requires fingerprints or face recognition which may not work for you – whatever mechanism you provide you should provide alternatives to that.

Detlev: it sounds like a pretty straightforward new success criteria

Next steps – Shadi may have more by January 10 European

Kathy: need to do a summary, list out what we are thinking about for people who weren't on the call

Next Steps

Add any other potential 2.2/silver to spreadsheet.

Note that we also added to the spreadsheet during the call: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wRAViPfAJ4Ytqc71tGZp6gU07HNd2QQaNgtJsog-D90/edit#gid=0

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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