Steven: XML Prague has just announced its call for papers, deadline Dec 6, http://www.xmlprague.cz/cfp/.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Oct/0009
Steven: So Erik, you think it makes sense.
Erik: It's pretty much OK for any
event to bubble; not even sure what the rationale would be for
not bubbling!
... There are definitely benefits.
... At least 3.
... The original question was about being targeted to select
and case, same event name.
... You can use context information to make the decision
Steven: So leave as is.
Erik: I'm not sure we have enough context information in XForms
Steven: Don't we just add information? Oh no.
<ebruchez_> For all events we have: targetid, type, bubbles, cancelable, phase, observerid, and a few more
Steven: ... nor does XML Events
mention any available context
... Are you suggesting we add that?
Erik: We certainly use context
information
... we should look at DOM Events in HTML
<ebruchez_> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Event
Steven: XML Events is only syntax around DOM events.
Erik: That link lists properties that we should expose.
<ebruchez_> local-name(event(‘currentTarget’))
Erik: we could use XPath functions to discover the element name
Steven: So is this a new work item?
Erik: It is useful.
... We should ask Alain.
... (If he uses extra information).
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to investigate the easiest way of adding more context information to events
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2203 - Investigate the easiest way of adding more context information to events [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-10-31].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Oct/0004
Steven: No progress
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Oct/0021.html
Steven: Is the use case not covered by xforms-ready?
Erik: I guess. But the benefit is
you can do it right as it arrives.
... it's not a huge use case.
Steven: There's not much you can do before xforms-ready
Erik: On occasions we have done things, also after model-construct-done
Steven: Is this only for @src, or @resource as well?
Erik: @resource as well.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add xforms-submit-done to instance/@src and @resource.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2204 - Add xforms-submit-done to instance/@src and @resource. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-10-31].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Sep/0014
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Oct/0015.html
Erik: I think this reduces the
surprise element
... a simple change
Steven: Which is a more natural result.
Erik: It's not backwards compatible, but I can't imagine anybody wanting what it now does.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to incorporate Erik's text from ACTION 2198
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2205 - Incorporate erik's text from action 2198 [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-10-31].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Sep/0013
Erik: In progress
identification
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0029
Erik: I need another week.
Steven: OK, please make it a priority!
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Jun/0020
Steven: In progress
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Oct/0012
Steven: Most of it is there,
ready for checking
... by next week it will all be done.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0051
Steven: Nothing to report.
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