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XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

29 Aug 2018

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Steven, Erik, Philip, Jorge_Sanchez
Regrets
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Contents


Call in 2 weeks time

Steven: I'll be teaching at the xmlsummerschool in 2 weeks time, so we'll cancel that call.

ACTION-2192: Propose text for error for submit to a nonexistent

submission [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0014.html

Stven: Done

ACTION-2191: Spec up setindex changing the focus. [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0020.html

Steven: Done

ACTION-2193: Propose text separating the two cases of id

identification

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0029.html

Philip: seems to be easy to read.
... I'm OK with it.

Erik: I need time to absorb it.

Steven: Than I'll add it to next week's agenda

URI functions

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0016.html

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Aug/0023.html

Steven: We may need more time to absorb this too
... Andreas is proposing a library for XPath 3

Erik: There are three possibilities: As is, XML doc, Maps.
... We could support a subset of XPath maps to support this feature.
... in XPath 3 there are native syntax, which we can't have
... but also functions in the map namespace
... which we could provide
... we do that in our implementation, at least some of the functions
... in XPath 2.
... Just new functions, and a new item type (hashmap)
... The other argument is a philiosophy
... the drawback is that it is more error-prone, because it is hard to check.
... I'm not sure, I'm not sold on a map or an XML doc.

Steven: Let it sink in? More discussion?

Erik: We can wait.

12.2.2 References to Elements within a bind Element

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Jun/0033

Steven: What happens in the example?

Erik: The text was designed for the nested bind case

Steven: Quite

Erik: I think I agree that the text doesn't cover this.
... but what is intended?

Steven: Agree.
... I think of

<bind ref="date">

<bind ref="@value" type="date" id="DATE"/>

</bind>

scribe: as a shorthand for:

<bind ref="date/@value" type="date" id="DATE"/>

scribe: in which case the repeat has a well-defined meaning
... so the question is, is that what is intended?

Erik: I would like to check what we do in this case.
... I suspect we do what you suggest there.

<scribe> ACTION: Erik to check what happens in his implementation with the nested bind/repeat

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2194 - Check what happens in his implementation with the nested bind/repeat [on Erik Bruchez - due 2018-09-05].

Instance fallback

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Jul/0001

Steven: I have this use-case often. It would be fairly easy to supply a better version

Erik: reasonable thing to do
... in what cases would you fall back?

Steven: In the submission case, whenever you get an xforms-submit-error, rather than a submit-done

Erik: should there be an error when the @src fails?
... We get a link-error currently

Steven: Should we get that as well?

Erik: It would be useful.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to spec up instance fallback

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2195 - Spec up instance fallback [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-09-05].

AOB

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Erik to check what happens in his implementation with the nested bind/repeat
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to spec up instance fallback
 

Summary of Resolutions

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