W3C

- DRAFT -

WoT IG/WG

08 Aug 2018

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Graeme_Coleman, Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool, Takeshi_Sano, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Toru_Kawaguchi, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis, Ryuichi_Matsukura
Regrets
Koster, Sebastian
Chair
Matthias, McCool
Scribe
dape

Contents


<kaz> scribenick: dape

Quick Updates

<kaz> Permissions workshop cfp page

Matthias: 1. item
... announced workshop on Permissions and User Consent
... agenda has link
... Kajiwara-san from ACCESS is planning to attend the workshop, so McCool and the Security TF are working with him to put some WoT portion into his position paper
... 2. item
... progressing with ETSI liaison
... ETSI people will join call in 3 weeks

Online PlugFest

<mkovatsc> Online PlugFest Doodle https://doodle.com/poll/a33qfw5te9myer23

Matthias: almost everyone is available in end of september
... think we'll pick the date
... 25-27th of September
... need to check with timezones
... logistics will be discussed in testing call (after this call)

McCool: plan to use PlugFest wiki for planning

Matthias: correct, will create usual preparation files in new GitHub folder as well

Task Force Reports

* TD

Matthias: Thing Description publication is planned soon
... unfortunately neither Sebastian nor Taki can join
... McCool and others addressed issues
... Koster misses still "rel" vocabulary
... Toru-san found some bugs in JSON schema
... one more issue in figure about cardinality (minor)
... PLEASE comment as soon as possible
... freeze will be end of this week

McCool: examples were updated
... Example 1. and 2. are https...
... later examples are CoAP based

Matthias: class name for "none" security is NoSecurity (English ;-))
... nosec is typical term in coaps

<kaz> TD draft (1. Introduction) for Example 1 and 2

McCool: i will consider it
... CoAP has two security schemes.. handled in next release

<kaz> TD draft (5.4.2 NoSecurityScheme)

McCool: will change/merge "nosec" change.. and let Sebastian know

Matthias: CoAP has actually 3 ways: raw public key, psk, certificate
... with nosec we have 4 options

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/issues/109

<kaz> issue 109 on Add Scheme for RawPublicKey mode in CoAP

Matthias: propose looking at TD issues

<mkovatsc> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/184

Matthias: issue 184 left over from DPs review
... cardinality question
... my argument would be... that there is always writable/observable..
... propose to set it to 1

<kaz> TD draft (5. Overview) for Figure 1

Daniel: agree

McCool: similar argument for others
... security optional.. but in general it needs to be there

Matthias: in Form "security" might have 1.N ... because it will be there in one way or the other
... maybe we should state in prose that those values have default values

McCool: propose to leave security as is.. because it may appear on several levels
... will create PR for nosec ...

Matthias: be aware that there is one more PR on the way .. by Victor... about SimpleDataSchema

McCool: will do my change soon

Matthias: OK, will tell Victor to wait
... btw, I guess there is no conflict.. other file
... remaining issue from Toru-san... JSON schema validation

<kaz> issue 187 on Review comments for the TD draft document from Panasonic

Matthias: "properties" is not as restricted as it should be..

<kaz> JSON Schema for TD Instance Validation

Matthias: both McLagally and Ege are on vacation
... should we delay publication

McCool: propose to fix later..

<kaz> Kaz: right. given it's just a WD, we can add an Editor's Note about the problem and simply move ahead

Matthias: propose to point to external file...

Daniel: fear out of sync problems with external file

Matthias: have proposed fix..
... but do not have time to check against all test files

Daniel: propose staying with "old" version for now...

Matthias: OK
... we will add Editor's Note that the current schema is a bit too permissive
... Are there any other reviews planned?
... I plan review the next days

Kaz: McCool do you plan to review TD from English native speaker view point?

McCool: can do that.. once we are ready
... will change lots of tiny things

<kaz> issue 181 on Usage of "scopes"

Matthias: Issue 181 about scope solved?

McCool: more about explanation.. leave it open

<kaz> issue 178 on PSK

Matthias: PSK is solved?

McCool: correct

Matthias: Close #178 then..

Matthias: w.r.t . "rel" I will contact Koster

* Binding

Matthias: Other task forces work on release also
... Koster pushed update to binding template

* Scripting

Zoltan: We have started review
... fixed most of DPs issues
... spec should look rather good
... but misses detailed error description
... and misses algorithm
... should manage publication 2 week after TD publication

Matthias: latest version still in PR?

Zoltan: Correct...

Matthias: propose merging to master

Zoltan: will merge

Daniel: Sounds good

<kaz> PR 128 has just been merged

Zoltan: merged: people can take a look at it

<mkovatsc> Editors' Draft to review https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/

* Security

Matthias: Security?

McCool: guidelines documents has pending PR
... will clean-up and merge
... most of the holes should be OK now
... security testing is described in test plan document
... test plan will be discussed next hour

<mkovatsc> Test Plan https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/testing/plan.md

TPAC schedule

<kaz> TPAC Schedule page

Zoltan: next F2F at TPAC.. PlugFest the weekend before?

Matthias: Should put wiki page up
... Mon-Wed: other groups' meetings (Mon/Tue) and TPAC plenary (Wed)
... Thu-Fri: we have our sessions
... on Wednesday there will be WoT demonstration
... PlugFest will be Sat & Sun (=Oct. 20-21)
... maybe extended to Monday/Tuesday

McCool: PlugFest will be at the university of Lyon...

Toru: do we have demo on W3C developer meetup on Monday?

Kaz: we are not required to join the event.. will check

McCool: Mozilla is active and dev event
... makes sense for us to be there also
... I think we should have something at the dev meetup

Kaz: need to check size of event... demo boost etc
... will check that
... dev meetup is not expected to be same size... it is at the university

Toru: same place as Plugfest?

Matthias: Yes

Kaz: online registration for meetup will be open at beginning of September

Matthias: see you in 2 minutes ;-)

<kaz> [adjourned]

McCool: testíng starts 10 past

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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