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– DRAFT –
DPVCG

23 July 2018

Meeting Minutes

<victor> I would rather not doing. It is 01.10 in Melbourne and I am too tired, I would make many mistakes

introduction

AxelPollleres: agenda is in the email I sent
… please go on the website of the cg, there you find links to additional tools

Bert: at the bottom you find the links
… using IRC is quite handy to use for meetings

<AxelPollleres> IRC server is irc.w3.org

Bert: you don't need a dedicated IRC client, just use irc.w3.org
… we also use wiki

<harsh> Wiki link: https://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌wiki/‌Main_Page

Bert: you can log in with your w3c credentials
… there's also an issue tracker with irc integration, we can use
… we have a public mailing list, as well as few others

<AxelPollleres> simonstey: webex credentials sent on public mailinglist may be a security issue for bots.

<AxelPollleres> bert: have to think about what we do for a regular webex call.

AxelPollleres: for those who are new to the w3c infrastructure, just ask

AxelPollleres: if we produce documents on top of just the wiki, I would suggest we do that on github

<AxelPollleres> proposed: use github for versioning documents?

+1

<UrosMilosevic> +1

<harsh> +1 use Github

<AxelPollleres> +1

<Bert> +1

in w3c space?

<Ramisa> +1

Bert: w3c space is technically possible, but usually it's for WGs only

victor: wiki is easier to comprehend/use

Action: Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else

Bert: I can ask if we can have a place at w3c's github

introductions

Action: Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else

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AxelPollleres: Vienna University of Economics & Business, co-chaired SPARQL WG in the past, also part of an EU project called SPECIAL

<AxelPollleres> +?

UrosMilosevic: Semantic Technology Architect at TenForce, Belgium service provider
… also involved in the SPECIAL project

victor: works for UPM, research visit @ melbourne, was part of ODRL WG, running european project on legal informatics

harsh: PhD @ Trinity, GDPR compliance from the angle of provenance

<AxelPollleres> Simonstey: also Vienna university & Business, PhD student, involved in SHACL and ORDL WGs, working also in JSON-LD wg, also working at Siemens Austria

Ramisa: PhD @ trinity, privacy preserving personalization, also participated in privacy workshop

Bert: working on several w3c working groups in the past, also involved in the SPECIAL project

Eva: legal expert working on data protection related research projects
… advising on how to build software that is compliant with GDPR

AxelPollleres: if you log into the wiki

<AxelPollleres> https://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌wiki/

<AxelPollleres> https://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌wiki/‌User:Apollere2

AxelPollleres: it's asking you for a login, and there you can add some personal information

Action: all to edit their user profile on wiki

<trackbot> Error finding 'all'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌track/‌users>.

AxelPollleres: please everybody add some personal information about yourself

https://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌wiki/‌User:Apollere2

workshop recap

AxelPollleres: I was also not there in person

<Bert> Report of the workshop on Data Privacy Controls and Vocabularies

Bert: workshop organized by SPECIAL project and w3c in April
… what technologies exist for privacy
… see what needs to be standardized and what not
… determine priorities for next steps
… first session was about things like how to express trust/access rights; identifiers; ODRL
… another session was about use cases in industry
… last session was about academic research
… modelling time, what about policies that change over time
… scientific datasets
… risks of collecting/combining/linking data
… we came up with 8 particular tasks
… ranked according to priority

<AxelPollleres> GDPR terms...should also be part of a vocabulary,

Bert: number 1 point was defining a privacy vocabulary

<AxelPollleres> taxonomy of purposes, taxonomy of perosnal data, log data, linkage

<AxelPollleres> human behaviour.

Taxonomy of regulatory privacy terms (including all GDPR terms). Taxonomy for personal data. Taxonomy of purposes. Taxonomy of disclosure. Metadata related to the details of anonymisation. Log vocabulary. Taxonomy of linkage operations. Taxonomies of human behavior.

<Eva_S__ULD_> (webEx is having network problems, trying to re-connect)

michael_markevich: doing security & privacy @ Opera software
… just became AC rep for Opera
… as we deal with privacy at large scale, we are def. interested in contributing to this cg

AxelPollleres: what we want as deliverables of that CG, is at least a list of requirements
… and use cases for such vocabularies
… the agenda we have drafted so far, can be found on the starting page of the cg
… we are still in the consolidating phase of the group
… we wanted to "officially" start in August at the mydata conference
… were we'll have our first f2f meeting, there might be a possibility for another f2f meeting in october
… at mydata there's a session on (??)
… anyone planning to join those conferences?

<Ramisa> maybe

<AxelPollleres> Axel: anybody planning to join Mydata?

<AxelPollleres> ... or BDVA?

AxelPollleres: we can start with using the wiki to collect some starting points
… any comments welcome

AxelPollleres: if you have certain use cases, please create a wiki page for those and send a link to the list

<harsh> Create section for Use-cases on Wiki ?

AxelPollleres: anybody volunteering for creating a draft structure for use cases we can use?
… for vocabularies, maybe victor you could start adding some bits and pieces for ODRL?

victor: yes!

Action: draft a page afor ORDL

<trackbot> Error finding 'draft'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌dpvcg/‌track/‌users>.

<harsh> GDPRtEXT vocabulary

Action: harsh to draft a page about GDPRtext

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Action: Michael to draft something about Opera use case(s)

<trackbot> 'Michael' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mmarkevich, mpetyx).

<victor> There was a very old list of vocabularies

<victor> https://‌www.w3.org/‌Policy/‌pling/‌wiki/‌PolicyLangReview

victor: very very old review of policy languages that might be of interest

Action: Bert to add some overview of SPECIAL use case(s)

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<victor> (very very old = 10 years)

Action: Axel to add some more starting point vocabulary stubs

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AxelPollleres: if you work on some project, please tell us about potentially relevant use cases

next steps

<Eva_S__ULD_> (sorry for not being able to say anthing atm, it seems WebEx does not like my PC today :( )

AxelPollleres: next time we want to discuss our inputs

<Eva_S__ULD_> (on-and-off connection all the time)

<victor> (neutral)

<harsh> poll for regular call slot sounds good

<Eva_S__ULD_> Yes a poll would be great

AxelPollleres: we have to think about how to get more people on board
… more people from industry would be nice, please advertise!

<victor> +1

<Bert> +1

<AxelPollleres> next call in two weeks?

<harsh> +!

AxelPollleres: we should have at least one more call before mydata

<Ramisa> +1

<AxelPollleres> +1

<Eva_S__ULD_> +1

AxelPollleres: in 2 weeks?

+1

... 6.8 16:00 CEST?

<AxelPollleres> proposed: next call 6 august 16:00 CEST

<AxelPollleres> +1

+1

<harsh> +1

<Ramisa> 6th is holiday in Ireland

<Ramisa> +1

<victor> +1

<harsh> +1 7 TUE

<AxelPollleres> Would Tuesday 7 August 16:00 work better?

AxelPollleres: what about tuesday then?

<AxelPollleres> +1

Resolved: next call Tuesday 7 August 16:00 CEST

<harsh> Announce on email list?

<victor> thanks! have a nice day!

<AxelPollleres> any further questions?

AxelPollleres: please announce your contributions to the wiki to the mailing list

<Ramisa> Thanks.

<harsh> Thanks.

<Eva_S__ULD_> Noted the date/time for the next call and hoping that WebEx works then

<AxelPollleres> rrsagent make minutes public

<AxelPollleres> thanks!

<AxelPollleres> Bert, I guess the ra minutes need a while to become visible?

<Bert> Yes, can take a minute or so.

<Eva_S__ULD_> thanks everyone, bye

<AxelPollleres> thanks!@

Summary of Action Items

  1. Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else
  2. Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else
  3. all to edit their user profile on wiki
  4. draft a page afor ORDL
  5. harsh to draft a page about GDPRtext
  6. Michael to draft something about Opera use case(s)
  7. Bert to add some overview of SPECIAL use case(s)
  8. Axel to add some more starting point vocabulary stubs

Summary of Resolutions

  1. next call Tuesday 7 August 16:00 CEST
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