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Regression test update

mck: : validation work to start 1st week Aug
... Bocoup slower than expected ramp up
... contract covers 18 examples

<mck> List of patterns for phase 1 of regression test project:

<mck> 1. link/link.html: 1 key commands, 4 properties

<mck> 2. grid/LayoutGrids.html (3 examples): 30 key commands, 27 properties

<mck> 3. combobox/aria1.1pattern/listbox-combo.html (3 examples): 42 key commands, 42 properties

<mck> 4. menubar/menubar-2/menubar-2.html: 17 key commands, 23 properties

<mck> 5. treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html: 9 key commands, 8 properties

<mck> 6. dialog-modal/dialog.html: 3 key commands, 4 properties

<mck> 7. menu-button/menu-button-actions.html: 8 key commands, 8 properties

<mck> 8. tabs/tabs-1/tabs.html: 6 key commands, 10 properties

<mck> 9. slider/slider-1.html: 8 key commands, 6 properties

<mck> 10. listbox/listbox-scrollable.html: 4 key commands, 6 properties

<mck> 11. accordion/accordion.html: 7 key commands, 8 properties

<mck> 12. combobox/aria1.0pattern/combobox-autocomplete-both.html: 14 key commands, 11 properties

<mck> 13. radio/radio-1/radio-1.html: 6 key commands, 7 properties

<mck> 14. disclosure/disclosure-faq.html: 2 key commands, 3 properties

<mck> 15. toolbar/toolbar.html: 5 key commands, 6 properties

<mck> 16. landmarks/main.html: 4 key commands, 5 properties

<mck> 17. button/button.html: 4 key commands, 6 properties

<mck> 18. checkbox/checkbox-1/checkbox-1.html: 2 key commands, 4 properties

<mck> 19.

mck: numbers indicate state/properties test numbers
... 3 done in Boucoup branch now
... using documentation in examples for tests
... goal is to be able to merge without all manual tests
... new examples need new tests going forward
... Boucoup has enough content to be look at
... have link, grid, combobox done
... neither grid or combobox are merged yet
... training coming

aa: prioritize training

mck: documentation will help with training

jg: looking at example for link - uses aria-labelledby, but not aria-label

mck: will abstract that to ensure label exists
... what to abstract and what to be definitive
... getting that balance correct has been lengthly discussion

jg: has to be simple enough for people to contribute

mck: next big update Aug 7

Assistive Technology Assessment project

mck: wrapping up Release 2 of APG

jg: if we have framework, can get students involved

mck: besides setting up web sites and framework to display results
... rate how well browser+AT supports example
... has to be vendor neutral
... have to account for different methodoly based on what AT/OS supports
... engage vendors before any data is generated
... onsite session for testers?

Siri: how do we choose between browser/AT combos?

mck: using WebAIM survey but not mobile because we're currently not supporting mobile

Siri: add text in examples defining mobile support?

mck: possibly in Release 3 next spring but optimistic goal
... timeline is to form project team and scope in Aug/Sept

jg: Michael Fairchild is ready - probably need call

mck: need Community Interest group within W3C

Treegrid example and pattern

mck: merged into master branch

<mck> treegrid pattern:

<mck> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#treegrid

mck: goal is for this example to be publication ready this week
... publish seeking review from broader community
... Issue #91 and Issue #132
... requesting group read and provide feedback

Issue #568 / comment regarding styling of focus

<mck> Comment from Matt in 568

<mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/568#issuecomment-399719043

mck: have change where radio button label and radio button are getting styled
... not normally done
... need language re: what a11y benefits are

jg: can write it

mck: has hover styling and kbd styling

jg: gives bigger indication of where mouse hover, kbd focus adds border
... requires adding onfocus and onblur to radio button
... indicates active area

aa: definite advantage to making click target larger

mck: can be added to native radios as well

Siri: possible to use on native also?

mck: APG is dedicated to ARIA
... not point of example to include native guidance
... may not have enough time to incorporate index in this release

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