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Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

21 Jun 2018

Attendees

Present
jamesn, MichaelC, jongund, jemma, matt_king, bryan
Regrets
Melanie, Joanie
Chair
JamesNurthen
Scribe
matt king

Contents


<jongund> Welcome Valarie!

<scribe> scribe: matt king

Publication update

mc: acccname published on tuesday as cr

will be in cr for month

we already have all test data

graphics-amm published on tuesday and have transition request to pr in director's hands.

hoping to publish as pr on tuesday.

upcoming first pwd of 1.2 aria, core-aam, and apg

jn: goal to get dne as soon as possible. might not make it before matorium

Need to hit dates for the charter.

Mjn: want to have everything ready before july 2 so can be published after july 13

TPAC Update

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018

jn: People can ideas for topics to that meeting page.

so we can work out how to plan the agenda.

registration is open.

link is in wiki page for agenda.

early registration is before july 31.

gets more expensive after that.

Invited experts can qualify for some funding, details on registration page.

There is alos a diversity fund available.

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/blog/2018/06/diversity-at-w3c-launch-of-tpac-diversity-scholarship/

mc: there is a blog post about diversity fund.

Dealdline is july 15.

Triage of new issues since last meeting

No new issues in the last week.

Work Through Issues (777, 778, 742)

Issue 777

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/777

jn: Dominic logged tis. not clear what to do about case sensativity

we don't have anything in spec that deals with it.

jn: about casensativity of values, e.g., true/false/etc.

webkit and blink do case sensitive comparisons, firefox is insensitive.

jn: aria in html doc says ther canse sensitive.; says they must lower case.

mk: Shall we add to state and property processing.

jn: seems like the place to do it.
... Marco says that all html attributes are case insensitive

in his firefox blog.

<jamesn> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1407167

jg: I agree that we should do what html does; make case insensitive.

bg: when does it need to be done

jn: in 1.2 time frame

bg: I can commit if not urgent

jn: I will assign to you.

issue 778

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/778

<jamesn> In ARIA 1.1, we added the requirement that authors MUST name their regions. Then, in the Core AAM, we added conditional mappings: Expose as a landmark if it has an explicit name; don't expose as a landmark if it lacks a name.

<jamesn> It has been suggested that we do something similar for the form role. See #514). This issue was closed and moved to Core-AAM for the conditional mappings (w3c/core-aam#11). However, we cannot take steps on that Core-AAM issue until we decide what to do in the ARIA spec itself.

jn: This issue suggest we treat nameless form elements like nameless sections and nameless regions.

mk: Strongly agree we should do this

jn: me too

mk: I will take this one.

jn: any disagree with the proposal?

jg: I support it.

ISSUE 742

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/742

<jamesn> role="searchbox" is mentioned once in the text as an element that role="combobox" must contain or own. Further text only mentions textbox. The characteristics table below the text does not mention searchbox, only textbox.

<jamesn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PDQyYkg2/

<jamesn> It seems that it should either be clarified that searchbox is also an appropriate role, which sounds plausible because it is a subclass role of textbox.

<jamesn> Or if that is not the case, remove the mention of searchbox.

The searchbox role is mentioned once but the text is not consistent and the table is not either.

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#combobox

do we want to support searchbox as a combo input?

mk: I am OK with trying it. Not sure what AT will do with it.

jn: This is an editorial change

I'm not aware of AT treating a searchbox different frm a combo. doubt would cause a problem.

mk: I'm aware of differences.

jn: html type search is rendered diff from html type text

by some browsers.

not sure it would impact AT

mk: the motivation behind having searchbox cold be alignment with native mobile AX apis.
... willing to take this issue

jn: that's end of planned agenda. We could go through more issues or we can end early.

<jemma> Thanks

presetnt+ valerie_young

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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Regrets: Melanie Joanie
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