<scribe> scribe: jongund
Introductions of curt
JN: Curt is from Oracle
SI: Do you miss James
JN: No one misses me
... Let's move on
<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018
JN: not much of an update, we
have a meeting page
... We will be meeting and registration is now open
... Earlier bird rate ends on July 31st
... You should have gotten registration information this
morning
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2018/
MC: I will put link the log and meeting page
JN: Please send suggested agenda items
MC: People can add information, rather than edit the page
JN: MC please update us on publications
MC: We have 3 documents in process, waiting for director response, hopefully tomorrow
JN: No news on charter updates
MC: JB is in the final process of updating the charters, hopfully within the next week
<mck> /me coming
JN: We will not be meeting on
July 5th, too many people out
... We should be meeting most of the rest of the summer
... Joanie or I will be able to chair
JN: We would like to work through the issues as they come in
<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2018-05-15
JN: We would like to assign them to a release
JN Issue #780, we talked about it last week
JNL Joanie also needs to be here
JN: Is this a 1.2 or later
MK: What is the criteria
JN: We also want to fix bugs, but
not new features
... This seems to be a bug
MK: I think it is a 1.2 issue
JN: I agree on 1.2 issue
... Done
... Removing non-normative content out of AAM
MK: It is mostly editorial, but
it is a big issue and needs alot of editorial review
... it is a nice to do, but wait until everything else is
done
JN: This may need to move into a separate note
MK: I don't like that idea, to
many places for people to look for stuff
... I would propose leaving it for now
JN: It is not clear where the content should go
<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/14
JN: Should we have a separate
issue on core AAM
... Maybe create an explainer document
... Joanie wants to simplify Core AAM
MK: I agree with Joanie
JN: We should figure this out for
1.2
... Any objections for 1.2?
... 1.3 is way out there
MK: The normative content is most important
JN: Some of the content is
normative, we need to move the tests to the right place
... Joanie only wants the normative mapping content in the
document
... most of this work is on Joanie, so if she wants to do
it
... Is that oK?
... Issue 778
... There is already a 1.2 milestone on this
... I think this is right
MK: I agree
JN: Issue 777
... These are based on the IDL information
MK: This has to be 1.2, to get the IDL stuff right
JN: We need to include case
sensitivity, but browser will support
... Issue 776
... Aria controls is required on combobox
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/776
MK: Anyone who parsing its not
going to like it because it is conditional
... We should have a row for conditional required
properties
JN: Sounds like you would like to take this on
MK: I could make a pull request
JN: I would be happy to have a
pull request and then we could discuss
... Any other counter proposals
Bryan: I need more information
MK: Combobox has a requirement for aria-controls, but it is suppose to be on the textbox, so the spec is conflicting
Bryan: That seems reasonable
JN: Can you do a pull request?
MK: I assigned it to myself
JN: Thank you Matt
Issue 773
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/773
JN: This is editorial, does
anyone disagree?
... reads the issue
JN This would change the definition of tri-state
JN: I believe this is editorial since no tests change
BG: Fine with me
JN: Any objecttions
... I will make the change
... Issue 771
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/771
JN: It is not a 1.2 issue
BG: This sounds complicated
JN: I thik this is more 1.4 or 2.0 issue
BG: That makes sense to me
JN: Any other input on
milestone?
... MC does this sound like an 2.0 issue?
MC: Yes
JN: Issue 767
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/767
JN: Let's leave this to be an non-aria solution, this needs more discussion on what to do with tis
BG: It sounds good to me
JN: Issue 765
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/765
BG: We are talking about a user agent translating information to braille
JN: I don't know abut how this work, we need Joanie
<mck> /me can you unmute me?
JN: Is is a 1.2 issue?
BG: No
... Who wants to work on it?
... I understand the desire for it
JN: I think it is a 2.0 issue, it can always be brought back
<mck> /me I think I am muted
BG: There is software out there that could do this
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/roadmap
MC: I just want to remind people
about the raodmap
... 1.2 is roles for HTML parity
... 1.3 is attribute parity
... So this makes it post 1.3
JN: Issue 762
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/762
<mck> James/Michael ... can you unmute my line?
JN: This will tell you about
actions, and then you can use the rotar to get to the
actions
... I think this is important, but does not fit into 1.2
BG: Sounds useful to me
JN: It doesn't fit into 1.3 either
MK: I asked a question, this is
basically a touch or screen reader interface, how would
keyboard users get to these actions?
... Whether we need ARIA to do this, or can we use what we
already have
JN: You can use delete key to delete, or use of context menus
MK: So the question becomes a
touch interface issue, if a swipe left deletes, the screen
reader will also have a way to do a swipe left emulator
... This seems more like AOM
JN: I think your right
MK: in AOM there are 8 actions
that are currently supported, this might be another action or
be able to use the 8 that are already there
... Remember that aria-haspopup is now tokenized and combine
with AOM
JN: Can you put that explanation in the issue
MK: I can do that
JN: I will not put a milestone on it now
MK: May want to label for may not be aria issue
JN: I will discuss that with
Joanie when she gets back
... Thank you everyone
... Any other issues?
BG: Can you tell me what the
dates are for TPAC
... I am hoping to come
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