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McCool: one thing
... one action here
... demonstration of F-Interop
... a week after
... let's create an action for that
... the other action was Kaz to Doodle
... other than those 2 actions, would accept the minutes

(no objections)

McCool: and would like to record actions here (=on the Test wiki)

F-Interop demo

Ege: talked to Federico
... he can do a demo
... but Soumya is also working on F-Interop
... who to ask?

McCool: would understand what they're working on
... if it takes longer (e.g., 2 weeks), maybe we could have some concrete proposal from the F-Interop side first
... Matthias mentioned we didn't want strong dependency

Dave: spoke with Federico too
... maybe we could provide a demo with CoAP
... interoperable testing
... in terms of license
... basically open source and open license

McCool: we would like some concrete document as well
... I like the technical focus myself
... would see the W3C license requirements as well

Dave: we have tests
... some kind of machine interpretive part

McCool: there are a bunch of nervous things...
... vocabulary must satisfy this semantic tag, etc.
... JSON Schema, vocabulary definition, WebIDL, etc.
... would cover most of the spec
... WebIDL doesn't cover the behavior
... gives you syntax keywords/grammar, though
... 2 weeks from now
... you and Federico can come back

Kaz: as Michael mentioned, you could provide some more information about your goal, purpose, etc.
... we should remember that testing consists several levels/categories
... and testing for spec generation should be our priority

McCool: you can provide updated presentation

Dave: can work with Federico and Ege

Doodle poll results

doodle poll

Kaz: siemens guys have conflict on Tuesday?

McCool: Friday 9pm/10pm might be another candidate
... or Monday 11pm
... let's go with that (as the 1st candidate)

Kaz: let's mention that during the main call after this call

McCool: ok
... (tentatively edits the Testing wiki with this proposal)
... need to allocate a new series of WebEx as well

Kaz: ok

plugfest/f2f planning

McCool: we'll have a plugfest call in 2 hours
... anything to do testing during plugfest?
... TD validation ready, etc.

Ege: planning to do that
... trying to make it
... want to have test bench

McCool: we should do that written up
... created a document on security goals for plugfest
... would have similar document for testing goals for plugfest
... we should run security check with all the implementation, for example
... let's discuss this during the PF meeting
... regarding f2f...

f2f wiki

McCool: created a few things on the wiki

proposed sessions

Ege: won't be able to physically join it
... will join using webex

McCool: that's fine
... just realized
... TD deliverable
... Scripting API
... require test suite
... TD validation is possible by online checker
... those the priority
... other things
... specification validation
... second priority
... TD validation
... next test suite for scripting api
... then online testing/demonstration systems
... and continuous integration
... (adds approximate times for each topic)
... TD validation tools includes validating TD and Things based on that TD
... online testing/demonstration systems including continuous integration
... (shows PR on GH)

Assertion extraction tool

<McCool> https://rawgit.com/mmccool/wot-thing-description/assertions/testing/assertions.html

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/138

doc and pr above

McCool: joined the TD call last Friday
... some parallel work
... there was a conflict within the PR
... caused by the parallel edit...
... expecting that Sebastian will fix the conflict
... will join the TD call on Friday again
... try to resolve the conflict (or use the updated version for the check)
... nice to have a tool to track the HTML structure...

Tools

McCool: Oracle not available today
... what about playground, Ege?

Ege: it's online

McCool: can you make a slide?

Ege: there is a plugfest service link...

<ege> http://plugfest.thingweb.io/

Ege: has to be updated for the next plugfest

<ege> http://plugfest.thingweb.io/playground/

playground tool above

McCool: ok
... is there any documentation?

Ege: can provide some more basic APIs as well

McCool: is there some service as well?
... would be handy for plugfest/testing integration
... (shows the source code of the JavaScript)

Ege: actual validation is done by the JS
... 2 possible things
... online api and npm module

McCool: right
... you can use browser to use it
... this is all packaged
... generally test suite need this capability
... can certainly help you restructure this code

Ege: need to check with Siemens guys

McCool: this chunk of code
... pure JS
... very handy to package this up

Kaz: that's true

McCool: one code base for browser purposes and node purposes
... talk about Oracles work next time

Ege: next call will be next Monday, June 4?

McCool: right

[adjourned]