XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

18 Apr 2018



Erik, Philip, Steven


Removing linking attributes from <help/>


Steven: We didn't resolve officially to do this.

Erik: I'm OK with that.

Philip: Me too

RESOLUTION: remove linking from <help/>

ACTION-2166: Unify output/label/help/hint/alert

[Whether to allow mixed content in <output/>]


Steven: My proposal is to allow text as a child of <output/> (as with the other elements)
... but not the UI elements such as, indeed, <output/> itself.

Erik: <label/> allows host-language markup
... how about that?

<ebruchez> <label>Some <i>stuff</i> with <output value="42"/>.</label>

Erik: The spec allows that currently

<ebruchez> <output>Some <i>stuff</i>.</output>

Erik: Would that be allowed?
... I don't know...
... one of the rationals was that output would be like <span/>. In that case it would make sense.

Steven: Shall we give it a try?

Erik: I'm leaning towards consistency
... but not 100% sure

Steven: More time to think about it?

Erik: Sure

Philip: I'd like more time.

Steven: I'll post a message summarising the issue

Lazy authoring


Steven: Is there any case where a binding error would be dispatched according to this rule?

Erik: Logically that is what is implied.

<ebruchez> <input ref=".name">

Erik: If you made a mistake

Steven: That is not a name indeed

Erik: So that would be silently ignored.

Steven: As it would if there *were* an instance.

Erik: That seems fine.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to modify the lazy authoring rule.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2171 - Modify the lazy authoring rule. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-25].

Non-XML parsing for submission response body


Steven: My last mail on the subject: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0038.html
... my proposal was @contenttype or @content-type

Erik: Not really clear enough; we need something more descriptive
... eg response-content-type

Steven: Works for me.

Philip: OK with me.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add @response-content-type to spec

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2172 - Add @response-content-type to spec [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-25].

Sort function


Steven: Do we want to add a sort function, or just use external defintions as Orbeon does for instance?
... The problem is that XPath 3 already has sort(), and so anything we add will only be a stopgap.

Erik: Right. And without functions as parameters, we would have to pass the sort expression as a string.

Steven: So leave as-is, ans see it as something we get for free later?

Erik: Yes.

Philip: Yes.

Test Suite 2.0


Steven: New one posted, with lots of new Event tests
... now starting on actions.


Steven: I will be presenting on XForms to a day for Dutch science journalists in June organised by NWO, the Dutch NSF.


<scribe> ACTION: Steven summarise issues wrt <output/> mixed content.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2173 - Summarise issues wrt <output/> mixed content. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-25].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Steven summarise issues wrt <output/> mixed content.
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to add @response-content-type to spec
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to modify the lazy authoring rule.

Summary of Resolutions

  1. remove linking from <help/>
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