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IIP telecon

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<alolita> akshat: I'm Akshat Joshi I work at CDAC with Mahesh Kulkarni Some of the major work I've been working on is internationalization of domain names

<alolita> ... happy to be on this taskforce

<alolita> muthu: I'm Muthu Neduraman from Malaysia working on fonts for Indo-Chinese and Indic languages

<alolita> ... does Indo-Chinese include Tibetan

<alolita> ... do you know Javanese - No

<alolita> r12a: I'm Richard Ishida, W3C lead and particularly interested in typography outside the realm of fonts

<alolita> ... we will be involved in developing some of that information

<alolita> Neha: I'm Neha Gupta working at CDAC on NLP projects, keyboards for Indian languages, IDN

<alolita> ... Happy to be involved with this effort

<alolita> Vivek: I'm Vivek Pani working with internationalization and am getting involved with standardization again

<alolita> ... I'm interested in looking at font standardization

alolita: Involved in language tech for some years now - happy to see start of this work around indian languages
… v happy to have a diverse group here
… missing Anshu and Kalika
… I work on NLP and machines learning at Amazon

Logistics

https://‌w3c.github.io/‌i18n-activity/‌guidelines/‌process.html

<alolita> r12a: We've been walking through the processes in the meeting which have developed over several years

<alolita> ... these tools have been used and let's learn these tools and processes to be effective

<alolita> ... does anyone have any questions

<alolita> ... i imagine the questions will come up as we make progress

Work on 3 initial scripts

Objective: discuss best ways to focus as a team to work on the first 3 language scripts - Devanagari, Tamil and Bengali. A transparent, iterative approach will all work done by the team hosted on GitHub would be ideal.

Requirements document template

https://‌w3c.github.io/‌iip/‌templates/‌lreq_doc/

Gap analysis template

https://‌w3c.github.io/‌iip/‌templates/‌gap-analysis

scribenick r12a

r12a: in the language matrix there are some typographic features on top - down the left hand side the scripts are ordered alphabetically by number of speakers is a list of languages
... does the web work for that feature where are the gaps - where ​are ​ the pain points
... ​provide ​ tests and pictures to provide where those p​arts are broken
... In addition to that document (gap-analysis) ​ we have the layout requirements doc​ ​e.g. if ​ grapheme clusters are broken th​en outline gap in gap analysis doc​ and then add requirements as to how they should work in the Devanagari Layout requirements document
... How should it work neutrally ​
... the reqs doc should ​ serve as a long-term reference
... IIP will develop new docs which will replace the old existing ilreq doc We should use th​e old doc​ as a source where it has useful information but will ​create​ a new document

akshat: wr the color convention, ​sometimes ​ it was tough to take a call
... on syllable clusters ​is it a​ Unicode text segmentation ​is the​ text segmentation​ rule broken​ ​keep in mind: ​

r12a: does the web work for a user
... In the Gap analysis doc we are looking to see if it is being described look at HTML and CSS specifications - verifying in the browser specs are the implementations out of sync in other cases - implementations may not be handling it the same way

alolita: Propose focus on deva, beng and taml at the start
… cdac has been working on gap analysis for other languages
… akshat & neha what are your thoughts on other languages?

akshat: initially planned 5 scripts, including guju and guru
… we have covered 3 scripts - currently working on 2 more
… the gap analysis doc has many different aspects - 20% of the subsections are still tbd
… we might need more perspective on how to flag issues
… looking for more advice from r12a to guide future working

neha: maybe by next week we'll have gap analysis docs for Tamil and XXX

alolita: we're leveraging some of the work that CDAC has already done
… you have seen the links to these documents

http://‌w3c.github.io/‌typography/‌gap-analysis/‌language-matrix.html

alolita: the idea was use that as a framework

https://‌w3c.github.io/‌iip/‌gap-analysis/‌deva-gap

alolita: what documents should we work on? should we work in parallel?

muthu: let's see what's available already, and fill that in first
… then in meetings we can look at additional features and decide how to work
… i think we can look at all three scripts for what has been done up to now
… then after that decide whether to work script by script

akshat: best to work on all three at same time - because other scripts can bring in perspectives that devanagari is missing

vivek: if we all know devanagari it might be good to focus on that

neha: i agree with akshat

alolita: listening to this, i like Muthu's idea of reviewing exising information across all 3 scripts
… then decide about how to move forward
… we can always tune the process based on what will work for all of us

Alolita: please everyone look at the documents that exist
… and review before we next meet
… also i'm thinking of a biweekly call to discuss docs and manage the work
… does that workf or everyone

all agree

Alolita: ​re: Time for call bi-weekly to accommodate others like Anshu​

Muthu: ​flexible, in malaysia we work around the clock ​

Neha: 730am-7pm morning ​is ok, but not after 7pm

r12a: 6.30am ok​

<Akshat> maybe i am not audible

<Akshat> i am ok with anything that works for majority

Action: Alolita to send out doodle poll for regular meeting times

alolita: Please all look at the repo
https://github.com/w3c/iip/

<Akshat> My audio dropped off... trying to connect...

Action: Alolita to send out doodle poll for regular meeting times

<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Send out doodle poll for regular meeting times [on Alolita Sharma - due 2018-04-20].