https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0016
Steven: Please take a look
Philip: We don't have a method to sort on repeat do we?
Steven: No.
Philip: In Orbeon?
Erik: We have a sort function, but not as part of <repeat/>
Steven: That would be a good
thing to present in a future article.
... where does your sort function come from Erik?
Erik: I need to check; I think it's an extension function.
Steven: Might be worth considering adding sort to the XForms functions.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0018
Steven: Done
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0017
Steven: Also done. Please check that it looks OK.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Mar/0037
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Mar/0028
Steven: Saxonica were OK with it.
Erik: No real strong feelings
about it. The objections were regarding the style and title
attributes.
... that's OK. I can live with it. I don't require it; if it
works for others, then that's fine.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add root element to spec
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2168 - Add root element to spec [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-18].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Mar/0038
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0019.html
Steven: I'm assuming everyone is
OK about unifying the attributes.
... Erik, you said you didn't think linking on <help/>
was necessary, and I agree.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0019.html
Steven: the second point is that
all elements have content, except <output/>
... so do we want to take the unification that far, or leave
<output> as an empty element?
Philip: Why not use host-language facilities?
Steven: I use XForms elements as
much as possible.
... but the point is, if we're unifying the elements, why not
just go all the way.
Philip: Agree.
Erik: Hint and so on allow output
within the content; would we allow that in output too? Allow
nested outputs in output?
... for instance label has as content "(PCDATA|(UI Content))*",
where UI Content is <output/> but implementations may
extend it.
Steven: Yes. I'd like time to
think about that.
... reraise it next week.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0006
Steven: Looking at this table:
https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#Events
Steven: Looking at interaction
events, the ones with equivalent actions, maybe they all ought
to be actions rather than events; especially as we've
deprecated some of them already.
... my feeling is that originally we gave events two roles,
actions and notifications, but in fact notifications are the
useful ones, and the others ought to be actions.
Erik: I agree.
Steven: Do we change or leave as is?
Erik: Anecdotally, I've never used next and previous events.
Steven: There are real-world usages
Erik: Not sure if those are good examples.
Steven: I agree.
Erik: Ideally it should be with an action.
Steven: Agree; Philip?
Philip: Yes.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add actions for nonj-notification interaction events
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2169 - Add actions for nonj-notification interaction events [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-18].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2018Apr/0008
Steven: Erik, do you support @class on <repeat/>
Erik: Yes, I believe so...
... it translates by putting the class on the iterations.
... because we don't generate an enclosure for the
repeats.
... I'd be inclined to accept the definition of an enclosing
group.
... in some cases, it might cause troubles.
... the class on an enclosing element will be OK.
... should we be proscriptive about it?
Steven: I would prefer it that way.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to suggest spec change for class on repeat.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2170 - Suggest spec change for class on repeat. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2018-04-18].
[Alain]
Steven: Postpone to next week
Steven: I'm keynoting at Balisage this year.
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