<SimonCox> riccardoAlbertoni: will you join the voice call?
yes i am connecting
<SimonCox> scribenick: riccardoAlbertoni
SimonCox: any changes to the agenda?
arminhaller: are we enough people?
SimonCox: we circulated the proposal we have regrets and people have posted their opinions
<SimonCox> thats why I warned people and put votes in the issues - to invite participation asynchronously
<SimonCox> we have 4 here and 5 regrets = 9 total
<SimonCox> issues can be reopened if any one is unhappy
<SimonCox> https://www.w3.org/2018/03/14-dxwgdcat-minutes
<arminhaller> +1
<SimonCox> +1
0 ( i was absent)
<DaveBrowning> 0
<SimonCox> https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/
<SimonCox> we will need a vote to release in 2-3 weeks
SimonCox: we need consensum on the FPWD
arminhaller: the vote will be in the plenary won't it?
SimonCox: yes of course
<SimonCox> ACTION: SImon to fix missing gap in date
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arminhaller: some errors on FPWD when visualizing in firefox, and other browser
<SimonCox> ACTION: SimonCox alert list that vote to release FPWD from team to plenary next week
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<SimonCox> milestones https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestones
SimonCox: i build some milestones
<SimonCox> wiki pages https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki
i was trying to pull together some issues for example about licence, for each of the milestone there is a wiki page
scribe: for the moment all the discussion is on the github
<SimonCox> two wiki pages have some content:
<SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Data-aspects---semantics
<SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Data-service
scribe: i am trying to encourage the people working on profile negotiation
<arminhaller> @SimonCox great work!
scribe: wiki pages can be used to put down proposal which are difficult with issues thread
<SimonCox> encourage interested participants to add to Wiki pages
<SimonCox> 1. https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/117 dcat:dataset
SimonCox: the consensum here seem
to be not to make any changes
... any discussion ?
<SimonCox> Proposed: no change to domain/range of dcat:dataset
<SimonCox> +1
+1
<DaveBrowning> +1
<arminhaller> 0
arminhaller: I want to justify my neutral vote ...
RESOLUTION: no change to domain/range of dcat:dataset
SimonCox: in this case the max's argument about dcat backbone is very convincing to me ..
RESOLUTION: no change to domain/range of dcat:dataset
<SimonCox> dcat:record https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/118
<arminhaller> 0
<SimonCox> proposed: no change to domain/range of dcat:record
SimonCox: basic is the same motivation, not to change due to DCAT backbone
<DaveBrowning> +1
+1
<SimonCox> +1
RESOLUTION: no change to domain/range of dcat:record
<SimonCox> dcat:distribution https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/120
<SimonCox> proposed: no change to domain/range on dcat:distribution
<SimonCox> +1
+1
<DaveBrowning> +1
<arminhaller> 0 and definitely an inverse here
RESOLUTION: no change to domain/range on dcat:distribution
<SimonCox> dcat:themeTaxonomy https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/119
<SimonCox> proposed: no change to domain/range of dcat:themeTaxonomy
<SimonCox> +1
arminhaller: i do not really buy the argument that this is a property bound to the catalog ..
<arminhaller> 0
SimonCox: if the goal of dcat was to establish a vocabulary to be reused in the semantic web, you are perfectly right, but the case here is to describe a catalog ... not reuse the properties in SW
<DaveBrowning> +1
+1
RESOLUTION: no change to domain/range of dcat:themeTaxonomy
<SimonCox> dcat:keyword https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/121
SimonCox: here the proposal was to drop the domain constraint
<SimonCox> riccardoAlbertoni explain issue comment https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/121#issuecomment-375021487
<SimonCox> arminhaller: argues to make dcat:keyword reusable more broadly
<SimonCox> dcat:theme and dcat:keyword are merely sub-properties of dct:subject
<SimonCox> other candidate specializations of dct:subject here: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Data-aspects---semantics
<SimonCox> riccardoAlbertoni: need better documentation on use and intention of dcat:keyword and dcat:theme
<SimonCox> proposed: remove domain on dcat:keyword
<SimonCox> +1
+1
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1
<DaveBrowning> +1
<arminhaller> +1
RESOLUTION: relax (remove) domain constraint on dcat:keyword
<SimonCox> dcat:theme https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/123
<SimonCox> proposed: relax domain constraint on dcat:theme
<SimonCox> +1
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1
+1
<arminhaller> +1
<DaveBrowning> +1
RESOLUTION: relax (remove) domain constraint on dcat:theme
<SimonCox> ACTION: riccardoAlbertoni to propose some text clarifying use and intention of dcat:theme vs dcat:keyword
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<arminhaller> being a broken record, dcat:theme and dcat:themeTaxonomy is strange wording, if the domain of theme:Taxonomy is Catalog
<SimonCox> dcat:mediaType https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/127
SimonCox: not sure this is one
ready to be resolved..
... any contribution to the discussion..
arminhaller: the dicussion is around the mediatype range ... but the argument here is common practice, but common practice may have changed...
<SimonCox> arminhaller: dcterms:MediaTypeOrExtent as range has been common practice - lets check if that is still the case?
<SimonCox> ACTION: arminhaller look if dcterms:MediaTypeOrExtent is still common practice?
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<SimonCox> dcat:landingPage https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/122
<SimonCox> proposed: relax/remove domain constraint on dcat:landingPage
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1
<SimonCox> +1
<arminhaller> +1
<DaveBrowning> +1
+1
RESOLUTION: relax/remove domain constraint on dcat:landingPage
<SimonCox> what about range constraint? rdfs:range foaf:Document ; rdfs:subPropertyOf foaf:Page ;
<SimonCox> foaf:Document is broader class than web-page!
<SimonCox> should a landing page be always a list-of-distributions?
arminhaller: i am not sure we need to qualify a landing page.. any url should be ok ..
<SimonCox> arminhaller: maybe need another kind of link to landing-pages
<SimonCox> ... in addition
<SimonCox> Propose: no change to range of dcat:landingPage
<SimonCox> (on the understanding that there is a bigger conversation to be had around links out to landing pages)
<SimonCox> +1
<arminhaller> +1
+1
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1 (foaf:homepage also has range foaf:Document)
<DaveBrowning> +1
<SimonCox> i.e. close https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/122 for now
RESOLUTION: no change to range of dcat:landingPage
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