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05 Mar 2018

Attendees

Present
Roy, clapierre, Becka11y, janina, MichaelC, thaddeus, LisaSeemanKestenbaum
Regrets
sharron, john
Chair
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Scribe
clapierre

Contents


<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki

<thaddeus> +present

<scribe> scribe:clapierre

<thaddeus> Branch: vocab-implementation-M https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/vocab-implementations-MC/explainer.html#rdfa

Becky: Charles pulled in in my microdata but I can't find it

<MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2018Mar/0000.html

MichaelC; this is the official location, if it is not there I may need to update it.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/vocab-implementations-MC/explainer.html#rdfa

Lisa: put the link for Thaddeus / Michaels work on RDFa

Michael: I made a pull request which affexts microdata and RDFa, just want to warn people of that.

Thaddeus: does this fix this issue? I was never clear on what I was to do.
... , the original one talked about a 1:1 mapping or if the context changes with your work.

Michael: maybe we need to close your action. and may need a new action … I am already planning on looking at this section.

Becky, the build got turned off, it will take a few minutes and your change will go live, and you can close your action.

Lisa: I will mark Thaddeus action as done and open a new one for Michael
... , Social has not been done. maybe allow inverted commas.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/actions

Lisa: , looking at action items page.
... , marking Thaddeus section as done. Then he was to handle a "Move" request, but we are handling it with the additional properties so we have addressed the move thing but what is left is "social". I will take out the move and write this up.
... , Sharron is going to the the editoreal review.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2018Mar/0003.html

Lisa: , Next item "Definition List"
... , Next week I wont be here then the next week is CSUN

Thaddeus: I don't understand what I am to do with Social/Move issue

Lisa: from the conversation with Aryhi? "can be used with" left/right… YOu had other comments.

Thaddeus: with those comments we can close that… but what about social do you have ideas there?

Lisa: someone could add comments with commas.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2018Mar/0003.html

Thaddeus: I can add some comments tonight to this social issue.

Lisa: adding "New" to destination, I think we should remove this. Objections?
... , <none>

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add to destination: New - remove this sugestion

Lisa: Esc / Release (to me sounds similar) to close/cancel.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add to ACTION: Escape or Release

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Changes the focus of the item location to the last position of the focus, or to the next logical position of the focus, or to another logical position of a focus

Lisa: , changes focus to the next logical position, I don't know if we also need both. Does anyone see this separately?

Thaddeus: esc, full screen you are reducing the size you are not closing.
... , not sure about the definition but escape is valid full screen vs. not full screen.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Changes the focus of the item location to the last position of the focus, or to the next logical position of the focus. An example is escaping the full screen view

Thaddeus: , there is something unique about escape in some situations.

<thaddeus> teh esc

<thaddeus> key

Lisa: Esc vs Release?

<thaddeus> he esc key

Thaddeus: I would say Esc,

<thaddeus> (frequently labeled Esc) found on most computer keyboards and used for any of various functions, as to interrupt or cancel the current process or running program, or to close a pop-up window. Expand. Also called Escape, Esc key.

Lisa: any objections to this definition?
... Sort (by name, color, size) aria need to look at, or should we enable sort and have a vocabulary … we could do something like…

Michael: if AIRA is going to have something then we should table this for now and look into how we can work with their proposal later

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Adds voice commands:

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Lisa: activate or deactivate voice commands. Often used with pressed [true ]for on or pressed [false] for off

Michael: the next is Voice Commands
... aria is used with it "pressed"
... , not sure if this is perfect but will ask the ARIA TF what they think.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Connect (for any voice communication needs)

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Lisa : connect to a communication channel, such as an FTP server or Voice over IP channel. Often used with pressed [true ]for on or pressed [false] for off

Michael: , this maybe is aria-pressed not just pressed
... , we are adding to the vocabulary "actions"

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> drag (in case the button needs

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> enables a dragged and dropped capabilities Often used with [aria-pressed =true] for on or [aria-pressed =false] for off

<MichaelC> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/explainer.html

Michael: , drag was added same thing.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Confirmation notification

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Dialog that requires confirmation of a notification by the user

Lisa: I don't think we have this yet.
... , Here I have it on the dialog not the button

Becky: I don't get the use-case here

<thaddeus> modal button

Lisa: you have a dialog with this thing with an Ok to confirm something vs. cancel

<thaddeus> https://www.jquery-az.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2.3-Bootstrap-modal-buttons.png

Becky: we have close.

Lisa: where is the OK button?
... I just am not sure where I would use this "Confirm" has a very clear purpose.
... Ok I think we have this and this may be redundant. We have a "Confirm" button

Tool Tip for cognative

Becky: how is this different than Help?

<thaddeus> I think so

Thaddeus: help could go to a new location, but tooltip would be inline.

Becky: is it a separate button

Lisa: this is an action I think and Help is like a destination which makes it different.

tooltip to help people give more content.

small ? marks that has a popup with more info.

Becky: Help "Opens" a help … is it a help on tooltip

Lisa: Redundant with HELP and postpone for now. it iwll need more discussion
... Rearrange we should postone
... Resize can be ready with increase/decrease
... and a useful feature
... any problems?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> RE-SIZE

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Lisa: Increase or decrease font size Often used with increase or decrease

Lisa: request for layers… Ready?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add values for LAYERS - ORDER, SEND BACK , SEND FORWARDS

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Changes of the selected item position Often used with left, right, increase (forward) decrease (back) frist and end First, Layer-Back, Layer-Forward, Layer-Last) within list items, while each item in the list has a layer position

<thaddeus> I had commented on that thread - typically it is send to back, send to front

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Changes of the selected item position within list items, while each item in the list has a layer position Often used with left, right, increase (forward) decrease (back) frist and end

<Becka11y> this is more about z ordering; left and right imply x y movement

Thaddeus: I responded sendto Front / Back not sure if we want to do it or not.. often used with applications.

Lisa: we could add an editors note.

Thaddeus: lot of software on the cloud graphics even powerpoint has these terms and is in the cloud.

Lisa: will label as "At Risk" due to 2 implementations.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Plays the flow, presentation or a movie over and over again, once or without stopping. Often used with pressed [true ]for on or pressed [false] for off

Lisa: Loop I did a defintion for
... Rewind to change position like a slider. maybe this is the wrong word for it.

Thaddeus: called a "scrub bar"?

<thaddeus> Video position bar (video scrub)

<Becka11y> reposition?

<thaddeus> reddit: It's known as a scrubber.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> mediaPosition

<thaddeus> https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2w7169/what_is_the_video_progress_bar_actually_called/

Lisa: need a definition for it

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Changes the position of the multimedi

<thaddeus> The act of moving the playhead left or right

<Becka11y> adjust the current playback postion in the current media

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> volume :

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> adjust the volume of a multi media component. Often used with increase or decrease but is sometimes used alone as a menu name or item

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> channel

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> adjust the channel of a multi media component. Often used with increase or decrease but is sometimes used alone as a menu name or item

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> time start 1

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Set the start time

Lisa: Start/end time for which you are setting

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Set the start time or the time of an event

<Becka11y> some things have end time - but agree just need time

<thaddeus> +1

same for start date end date?

<janina> How is start time denoted?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> timeDateStart

<janina> I'm suggesting following ISO would be best

<janina> Best of interoperability of calendars, e.g. Google, Apple, etc., etc

<janina> Strong +1 to Michael. Let's not reinvent the wheel

Michael: we need to look at existing definitions we should not reinvent anything

<janina> Reason for including needs to be crystal clear. What is it achieving?

Lisa: add an Editors Note possibly here

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> keyword

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> identifies keyword(s) related to content for search

Roy: Republishing FPWD there is a sentence is "Not Normative"

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-content-1.0/#content

Roy: That is incorrect and we need to update the working draft we want to quick publication.

<Roy> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/FPWD-Content/snapshot/WD-content.html

Michael: this section defines the properties and should be included because this is a patant policy change.

Lisa: That is fine.

Roy: this is the new version with this change with that sentence removed.

Michael: I will get this today so you can publish tomorrow Roy.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> keyword identifies keyword(s) in the content

Lisa: one more field: Keywords
... not sure if its an action, destination, field…

Charles: I think we should postpone this

Lisa: I will send it to the list.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/vocab-implementations-MC/content/index.html#values

Summary of Action Items

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