<JohnRochford> I am on mute because I am in a public space.

<JohnRochford> Yes, I expect him to join.

<JohnRochford> Yes.

<JohnRochford> 71 this Sunday here is sunny Massachusetts.

<JohnRochford> Jim, I am now on the record to say I love when you say "Dang".

<JohnRochford> Bless your heart.

<scribe> Scribe: erich

InfoGraphics

<jallan> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2018Feb/0037.html

<jallan> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2018Feb/0045.html

<JohnRochford> With some irony, I could not see Alastair's infographics.

JA: Alastair was questioning infographics passing non-text contrast.

<laura> need to reboot.

<jallan> info graphics are difficult for text contrast let alone the image contrast

AC: Jim provided good interpretation of infographics

JA: Are we still searching for something that passes?

AC: Yes, let me check and I will send a link

<jallan> focus ring - https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2018Feb/0043.html

<jallan> ... could file bug on browsers for not support

JA: Could file a bug for browsers

<alastairc> Infographic example, several techniques: https://alastairc.ac/tests/assets/WCAG21-Infographic.png

<shawn> very nice!

<jallan> before and after to illustrate solving the problem

AC: I was able to have a designer create this example, was not able to find one otherwise

<alastairc> https://www.flickr.com/photos/gdsdigital/4729221809/in/datetaken/

AC: Finding examples that pass is helpful, as long as everyone agrees they pass

<alastairc> Looking for three steps:

<alastairc> 1. Which areas of the infographic is NTC (non text contrast) applicable?

<alastairc> 2. What are the graphical objects within it

<alastairc> 3. Do they have sufficient contrast

JA: Would text description work for #1?

AC: I think text description would be fine

JA: Best to find things that pass. It's easy to find failures, which leads to clutter

<jallan> find things that pass 2.0 text contrast, don't rely on color alone, and pass the 2.1 none - text contrast

<jallan> likely to be specific sections of the infographic.

<JohnRochford> Or, dare I say it, long descriptions?

<JohnRochford> Laura loves long descriptions.

<jallan> jim will create a wiki page with table, and three items with link to infographic

<laura> yes. i do. John.

<jallan> close item 1

JA: Pending issues seem to be getting addressed pretty quickly

reflow

<jallan> need to add sections to Requirements

<JohnRochford> FYI: There are Firefox extensions that do zooming.

<jallan> ... add hover SC info in section on Proximity of Related information

<jallan> ... add Non-text Contrast to section on Brightness and Color (mine understanings)

<jallan> https://alastairc.ac/2018/02/firefox-zoom-preferences/

JA: Link to the Firefox setting

toodle-loo

<laura> Thanks, everyone.

<laura> bye.

<jallan> trackbot, end meeting

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