<jallan> close item 1

<jallan> close item 2

<scribe> Scribe: Laura

Tracking Implementations - New Tool coming

<jallan> Old, is being updated https://www.w3.org/2017/11/WCAG21/CR/implementations

Jim: M Cooper is working on a new tool.
... was used in 2.0. Theyn are updating for 2.1.
... it will track Implementations.
... more information will be coming from ag.

<jallan> close item 1

<jallan> Open item 2

<jallan> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Tracking_Implementation_Issues_(Understanding_Docs_updates)#Reflow

Jim: progress check.
... looked at comments in minutes and checked against our Unstersanding docs.
... spacing is done. AC sent a note on reflow. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2018Feb/0030.html

AC: Makoto may help.

Jim: check the page and update as you see fit.

Glenda: fonud some implementations.

<jallan> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_Implementations

jim: will be interesdting when we start using the tool.

<Glenda> Implementations provided Non-text Contrast at https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_Implementations#1.4.11_Non-Text_Contrast

jim: what should we search for hover implementations?

<alastairc> would this be a reasonable on for content on hover? https://adobe-accessibility.github.io/Accessible-Mega-Menu/

steve: Gmail is an Implementation.
... interactive rich sites

AC: Adobe mega menu.

<alastairc> https://www.nomensa.com/

AC: Content on hover/focus question. email https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2018Feb/0025.html
... do we need escape for this case?

steve: only obsureing BG image.

AC: sort of. But some content.
... It's a bit subjective
... may need some scripting

jim: steve, any thoughts?

steve: this is where we should have talked about pure decoration.
... if it is not pure decoration, it should be able to escape out of it.

glenda: Minor technicality.

jim: tested with nvda

AC: we considered it decorative. but reconsidering.
... logos are part of the content so we should deal with it.

jim: some of the text in my viewport disappears.

AC: think I have an answer. Just need to file a bug.

John: we didn't address transparent cursors.

AC: a content problem or use settings?

jim: nothing the author can do about it.
... why would there be a trigger at all for purely decorative content, whitespace, or a background graphic?

Steve: old info. need to push to git.

<JohnRochford> Correction: pointers, not cursors.

<jallan> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/437

jim: talked about text cursors. text cursor (uaag def) as aspect of focus indication. issue 437
... https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/437
... call out infographics in Understanding comment from A. Arch
... can close after 6 weeks.
... need to make sure AG is happy with our tracking.

EO Review

<JohnRochford> What is EO?

<alastairc> education & outreach

<JohnRochford> Thanks, Alastair.

Shawn: Would it be helpful for review from EO now or later.

AC: most of them are ready.

jim: agree.
... reached out to eric about reflow. His plate is full.
... we do need techniques for that.

<Glenda> I will be at cSUN

<alastairc> I'm not at CSUN :-(

<shawn> I will be at CSUN

Jim: who will be at CSun?

<jallan> I will be at CSUN

<JohnRochford> I will be at CSUN and the Silver sprint.

Laura: not in person.

<shawn> monday & tuesday: AG WG f2f, Silver Sprint, EOWG f2f

<jallan> No Scott or Steve

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