<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: MarkWilcock

1 Ideas to improve our participation in WCAG

Lisa: So we will start.
... There has been discussion in the space around WCAG e.g. Silver because of the objections made to WCAG 2.1 and people are looking for ideas about the impact of participation.
... One idea is that the charter of WCAG needs to change, importantly it doesn't state about meeting the users needs, I think the first thing I wanted to suggest very strongly that the charter is change to meet the user needs at a minimum level of all the groups.

John: You have brought up before about changing the language before, can you summaries the reaction we got?

Lisa: If we agree that this is a priority to change, we need to keep an eye on the discussion about the charter when it opens

User: Did someone not draft a change to the charter?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa make document for pillers/ areas that we would like to see changes

<trackbot> Created ACTION-262 - Make document for pillers/ areas that we would like to see changes [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-02-15].

Lisa: Not that I recall. One area is the charter, another area is tracking participation and if COGA members aren't joining, why, and try solve these issue as to increase participation.
... For example are people having trouble completing the CFCs, are people finding these difficult?

John: Yeah, often the time constraints.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> sometime it doesnt even work

John K: Often understanding the entire landscape and how the W3C works.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> sometimes ipeople say it is covered and it was not, but it shut s up

John: The resistance we are trying to do is intimidating, I don't want to engage with people as their minds are already made up.

Lisa: So what do you think we can be changed? What mechanisms, changes etc. help us participate and convert the users needs.
... Maybe we give them the users needs and allow them to come up with the solutions etc. and we can vet these
... I think we need to come out with a list of issues and solutions

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

John: Using inaccessible platforms is not ideal, but we fall foul to that as well within the COGA TF

Lisa: We have been trying to address these in this document.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Make the purpose of your page clear through:

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> A clear title or heading that summarizes the purpose of a page, or

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Breadcrumbs that clarify what you are doing, or

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Other clear signposts that have been tested by users with cognitive disabilities.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> This benefits many people including people with a weak memory or anyone who is easily distracted. This includes people with age appropriate forgetfulness, or ADD.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> For example, someone with mild dementia is using online shopping. They get distracted and then when they look at the screen again they have forgotten what they were doing. Put a clear heading at the top of each page that seas clearly what the page is and what they are doing.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Always use breadcrumbs in tasks with a few steps. Breadcrumbs should include, steps completed, current step and steps pending.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add picture -success heading

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add picture -success breadcrums

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Add failure

Lisa: This is the template we are trying to use for each item.
... We should do an edit of the roadmap to make it easier to understand
... John do you want to read over the roadmap?

John: Sure I will create a simpler version of the roadmap

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: johnR to look at roadmap and gap anlisis genral edit and make it understandable https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#introduction

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<JohnRochford> Clarification: John Kirkwood and I will draft a simpler version of the gap analysis abstract.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: John Rochford and John kirkwood to look at roadmap and gap anlisis genral edit and make it understandable https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#introduction

<trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: JohnRochford and John kirkwood to look at roadmap and gap anlisis genral edit and make it understandable https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#introduction

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<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: JohnRochford and John kirkwood to look at roadmap and gap anlisis genral edit and make it understandable https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#introduction

<trackbot> Created ACTION-264 - And john kirkwood to look at roadmap and gap anlisis genral edit and make it understandable https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#introduction [on John Rochford - due 2018-02-15].

Jan: I agree with the things that have been said, I want to assist with the documents that we are creating.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/user-research.html

<kirkwood> this has latest editors sdraft and user research is on wiki homepage according to Lisa

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Research_sources

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<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<kirkwood> Lisa will make tis easier to find on the homepage

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Research_sources

Lisa: We had an action to add all the sources we have been using. This is an open action for the whole group

personlization update

Lisa: We should be reviewing this, they are trying to get this to CR in a short period of time.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> > https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/WD-personalization-semantics-content-1.0-20180208/<https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-coga-gap-analysis-20171207/>

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/

Lisa: We had a CFC come out of WCAG this week, that was the gap analysis we can make multiple edit until the final version we can iterative version, this enables us to speed up the publication.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

Lisa: We need to add an updated version of the user needs and I want to put the Google Docs in the appendix in the next release

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html

Jan: What do you mean by update? How are these being vetted?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> road map and gap analysis: :https://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html

Lisa: This is the first document we need to change, its got a whole table of user needs and these are the new ones, so these need to be included and the other issue we have issue papers written we have not included, so this is the first problem

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

Lisa: What I was thinking I can work on the editorial bits and go through the edits in regards to W3C

Jan: I think we need to review so that we publish high quality material

Lisa: I will ask for the Gap analysis to be reviewed

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> action, lisa make a google docs to vet the tables, and other items

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa make a google docs to vet the tables, and other items for the gap anlis publication

<trackbot> Created ACTION-265 - Make a google docs to vet the tables, and other items for the gap anlis publication [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-02-15].

Lisa: Reminder to take actions on the Google Doc so we can move this forward.

Mark: About publishing content into the document, do we just input the data? As I dont want to include incorrect information as this has been published and advertised.

Lisa: We will include a note about this being a draft content
... If you want to take any of the sections place brackets on these

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