<lisa> Let me know if you would like me to add anything else to the agenda
<lisa> scribe: kirkwood
LS: personalization call is Monday
argh my audio dropped
my audio problem is microphone i think
LS: web authentification, JR anything on that
JR: no but took me 20 hours to wade through
LS: this is a way to conform, do
you agree with that?
... you sound ok to me
no
LS: would you say that managing this conforming to specification meant that actually you have conformed to our SC?
JF: don’t see anything in the
documentation that would affect our SC
... in the reverse think we could contribute to this
standard/technique whatever they call it
LS: do you think if they use the standard does it conform?
<lisa> https://www.w3.org/TR/webauthn/
JF: just because they are does it mean it conforms to ours
JR: so Lisa, you are addressing
user level of docmentation, of this
... so would not meet our standard
LS: is that clear in our view
JR: anybody folllowing draft
documentation will not be following our standard
... have we had any contact with this group?
LS: no but Yanina has
... I could followup with this group
JR: do you think they will follow ours
LS: one of her accepted authentication needs to be defined of accepted
JR: what i did speccifically i listed sedtions of documentation we should address including one about timeouts
sedtions/sections
JR: don’t think its sufficient to
have group alter their methods to meet out SC
... we should contribute content to help people with cognitive
disabilites authinticate, it depends what they are open to
authinticate/authenticate
JR: whatever we do will take a long time with this group
LS: we can write issues don’t
have to respond
... we would like to advocate, we should have a joint APA
meeting on web authentication
... yanina would set that up
... should we ask for it or is it not necessary, would it be
useful
JR: it would be useful if
incorporation of suggestions or get some agreement on SC
approve it at least not oppose it
... some criticism has been around security need to get a web
security expert, to get agreement or not opposition
... look to see what have to say about our documentation is one
way. don’t know what our ask should be
LS: Yanina is excellent at
knowing what is realistic to ask for
... not on call this week and probably not next week
... lets try and have a followon call when she is here
... lets as her, on an APA call when have quite a few people
from APA on
... I can ask her to help
JAN: I’m here
LS: not really have quorum
<lisa> lost quarom
<lisa> ACTION: lisa to wrote about web athentifcation to rewuire one conformant method
I’m going to have to go
<trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - Wrote about web athentifcation to rewuire one conformant method [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-11-23].
LS: we were going to start working on COGA friendly applications
JAN: was very enlightening to sit
on AG meetings
... found it very helpful about process
... curious about remaining SC about repsonse to comments
... some discussion about dismissing those without outstanding
comments
LS: that was apalling
... there is going to be a call in about an hour with WCAG that
will be helpful I think
JAN: just curious if we need to back into github and response to comments. in agenda or be pro active
<lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_SC_countdown,
LS: don’t think so, wikipages
should be
... a few things, one is participating in Wiki
... assign someone to respond to all comments
... looking at Wiki and repsonding to comments and then the
surveys
repsonding/responding
LS: understanding sections need
to be improved
... look at understanding section for low vision task force
they are much better quality, we don’t have them. think having
better documents there will really hel[p
... that was one of things thought we should look at
yes Jan, I did find it useful btw
LS: there was a survey from WCAG on the understanding sections
<Jan> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13hmoaVU563kTio1EZD5mbNxcc0k924qVdZZwWckcbu0/edit#
<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/understanding_SC/
LS: undersanding section found
survey
... that is the document we wrote, thats not the one
... it will give you links to it in the github and add comments
as you want
JAN: followed the link
LS: thats not as good as I
thought
... you can see it in rawgit but can’t see it where it is
edibale
edibale/editable
LS: go to github open branch and
there is an understanding section
... we need to alert the list on how to do that
<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/blob/purpose-of-controls/understanding/21/purpose-of-controls.html
LS: this is a link to one of them
and should give you a branch to where you can edit
... JAN do you see how that works?
... I know how it works
yes that would be useful to have direct link
LS: we can think of understanding
sections making use case suggestions for cognitive
disabilities
... if we look at the understanding sections generally, I
intend to do this Sunday or Monday
... probably shouldn’t do at exact same time for changes being
lost
JAN: in terms of survey we just need to say this needs to go through
LS: we can say we want changes
JAN: with folowing
understanding
... JOhn said he wanted to get purpose of controls to be
acceptable, should we reach out to him
LS: I think we should try and reach out
JAN: from document we’ve been working on didn’t get ported into github properly
LS: can add screenshots
... I will reach out to John
LS/JAN
JAN: I will reach out to John
LS: how about next week following
WCAG survey sending out
... there is a call half hour after this one
... following WCAG surveys and imporoving understanding
documents that would be good
JAN: only taking off Thursday and Friday
me too
LS: making easy content document working on it
JAN: after 2.1 working draft is
done to focus on understanding document
... getting through final crunch of latest working draft then
can bring it up after that
LS: research model on cognitive
disabilities something want to move forward on as well
... woring on understanding docment ping on skype so not
working on it at same time
... i’ll take controls its the messiest one
... address more issues on next call
sorry not sure how to close minutes and stuff
LS: thanks JAN for your help
take care
<lisa> and thanks John!!
<lisa> and thanks John!!
no prob
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