<Lauriat> https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/wiki/Publishing-issues-for-Silver
<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x8uJRINJvHnAHqZ3HS30Z6Adrl6JX_N4QTXaKJ1jLAE/edit
ACT Notes from TPAC: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x8uJRINJvHnAHqZ3HS30Z6Adrl6JX_N4QTXaKJ1jLAE/edit
We may be getting some additional members - IBM will be looking for people in their organization.
Jeanne: One idea from TPAC is
that there are needs of people with disabilities that are
structurally having difficulty being included in WCAG due to
testing requirements
... example - plain language - how do you test that something
is written in plain language
... a solution was proposed that we look at "best practice" as
"needs of people with disabilities" that are difficult to test,
but that we should require companies to document how companies
address the SC that cannot be easily, quantifiably tested
Charles: This sounds like an extension of VPAT where you would talk about your own process for meeting a requirement
Shawn: a theme from the meetup
was the consumption of a11y guidelines - a lot of people would
prefer that they guidelines be easy to understand within the
role a specific person is filling - how do designers apply the
guidelines vs. developers, etc.
... we asked people where they go for a11y reference when they
need it - things like Webaim and other resources that describe
"how to do" a specific task. While people find this helpful,
how do we balance that with the implementation details that are
needed?
Jeanne: I talked with people from
browsers at TPAC. We discussed a lot of things that are
happening around accessibillity - the "potential" of using the
Accessibility Object Model for accessibility testing
... with the accessibility object model, people are now
starting to think about how accessibility of the browsers could
be tracked regularly - they are going to start with how well
browsers are implementing ARIA
With the accessibility object model, there is potential to include browser accessibillity testing in the web platform test that would push browsers to address accessibility more consistently and effectively
Jeanne: Raquel (a member) is
interviewing people at her University about accessibility and
would like to know if there are questions that we would like
for her to ask.
... we planned legacy and conformance interview questions, so
we should probably look at conformance.
Jenisen: Why don't we use the questions that we used at the meetup? It's information we have already and it's information that we need.
Jeanne: Where do you go when you need a reference on accessibility and why?
<Lauriat> Questions:
<Lauriat> Where do you go when you need a reference on accessibility? Why?
<Lauriat> What works well for you around accessibility guidelines?
<Lauriat> What doesn't work well for you around accessibility guidelines?
<Lauriat> What's on your wishlist? (around accessibility guidelines)
Ryan: Could we ask questions
about which disabilities people have trouble designing
for?
... What persona models do you feel the most prepared for when
designing accessibility solutions?
Jenisen: The largest group that people seem to struggle with are people with cognitive disabilities because it's so large.
Ryan: In a lot of cases, just
being able to discuss disabilities, opens the door for people
to discuss their disabilties
... for example, when we started looking at color blindness,
people that I work with stated that they were color blind and I
never knew that
Jenisen: In the design world, there seems to be concern on the part of designers who don't want to admit they are color blind because they are concerned about the effect on their career
Jeanne: We need to think about the law of unintended consequences and consider how the structure of the guidelines might lock out certain disabilities
Ryan: If you could make a list of
the potential accessibility narratives or personas and see what
people's comfort level is when designing for a particular
person.
... For example, ask people "How confident do you feel about
designing a bar chart that is accessible to all types of color
blindness?
Charles: To extend that in survey questions, you would need to ask questions about the general approach to solving a particular process - for example, one way to solve color blindness issues is to provide a view control that would allow users to control their own color scheme.
Jeanne: This is a good topic to kick off our Friday meeting.
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