Date: 2017-09-05
See also the Agenda and the IRC Log
Present: Ivan Herman, Bill Kasdorf, Bill McCoy, Cristina Mussinelli, Liisa McCloy-Kelley, Paul Belfanti, George Kerscher, Junichi Yoshii, Tzviya Siegman, Leslie Hulse, Garth Conboy
Regrets: Rick Johnson, Michael Baker, Dave Cramer, Graham Bell, Luc Audrain
Guests:
Chair: Cristina Mussinelli
Scribe(s): Bill McCoy
Bill Kasdorf: https://www.w3.org/publishing/events/summit2017.html
Action #1: BillM to add column for speaker contacts to speaker list in google sheet
Cristina Mussinelli: regrets from Dave
Bill Kasdorf: my call just dropped. I’ll try calling back in. Go ahead to the next item on the agenda
Bill Kasdorf: I’m back on the phone
Ivan Herman: via IDPF W3C has the copyright on the documents… W3C could say “no” and block ISO
Proposed resolution: set up a surveymonkey with the question whether an upgrade existing ISO TS on 3.0.1 would be detrimental or not for 3.1; gather all the people whom we think should answer the survey (Ivan Herman)
Bill McCoy: no - ask about both so…
Proposed resolution: set up a surveymonkey with questions whether support for a) upgrade existing ISO TS from 3.0 to 3.0.1 and/or b) create new ISO IS for 3.0.1 with comments solicited as well (Bill McCoy)
Ivan Herman: BG can take up this topic, MathML is major issue
… there is a CG for mathematics on the Web but not sure what is happening with it. I had hoped that there would be systematic work on efficient MathML implementation on modern browsers which could lead to features that could feed back some work on W3C, but CG hasn’t done it but instead taken up disparate topics
Bill McCoy: what happened to Scholarly HTML CG?
Ivan Herman: Scholarly HTML moribund, I think
Bill McCoy: I think that Robin Berjon moving on was a problem for Scholarly HTML CG
Tzviya Siegman: MathJAX primary tool. Vivliostyle is working to make better math support on browsers
Bill McCoy: there are also issues around an author-friendly representation for mathematics e.g. LaTex could be sidecar to MathML and be used to render for some workflows and be fodder for downstream editing
George Kerscher: DAISY has been looking to make mathematics recommendations in our a11y spec, we participated in the Math on the Web CG … most of it revolves around MathJAX if JS is available with SVG with fallbacks as alternative with alt-text or MathML as fallback (MathML hidden from users but available to assistive technology)
Bill Kasdorf: MathJax is widely used in production of STM content and most STM content has math in MathML but in JATS XML, not in the context of HTML and EPUB
Ivan Herman: +1 to BillM (alas!)
Bill McCoy: convergence of publishing and Web implies JS, since it’s the extension mechanism for the browser stack… at some point we need to wrestle with the implications of this
Bill McCoy: but the good news is that once you can assume JS, you can do a lot more than when you have to think that maybe JS isn’t available
Bill McCoy: the bad news is that it creates lots of issues for a11y, for security, for archivability, …
Ivan Herman: getting views of Peter and others on MathJAX etc. may be helpful
Bill McCoy: https://www.w3.org/Member/wiki/PubSummit#AttendanceSuccessMetricsandMilestones
Garth Conboy: Bye
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: bye!