16:12:44 RRSAgent has joined #pbgsc 16:12:44 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/09/05-pbgsc-irc 16:12:45 rrsagent, set log public 16:12:45 Meeting: Publishing Steering Committee Telco 16:12:45 Chair: cristina 16:12:45 Date: 2017-09-05 16:12:45 Regrets+ RickJ, mikebaker, pbelfanti 16:12:45 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publishing-sc/2017Sep/0000.html 16:12:46 ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda 2017-09-05: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publishing-sc/2017Sep/0000.html 16:12:55 https://www.w3.org/publishing/events/summit2017.html 16:13:19 present+ ivan, BillK, BillM, cristina, liisamk 16:13:27 no regrets from me, I'm here! 16:13:35 present+ pbelfanti 16:13:38 ACTION: BillM to add column for speaker contacts to speaker list in google sheet 16:13:44 regrets- pbelfanti 16:14:09 present+ George 16:14:31 regrets from Dave 16:15:38 regrets+ dauwhe, graham 16:15:53 regrets+ Luc 16:15:57 my call just dropped. I'll try calling back in. Go ahead to the next item on the agenda 16:17:17 I'm back on the phone 16:17:26 present+ yoshii 16:17:37 ACTION: BillM to check whether registering for PBG meeting auto-populates having to pay the Friday TPAC registration fee and if so come up with a workaround 16:18:27 q+ 16:19:10 Topic: ISO standardisation 16:21:19 q+ 16:21:54 ack ivan 16:22:49 Ivan: via IDPF W3C has the copyright on the documents... W3C could say "no" and block ISO 16:26:06 q+ 16:26:22 tzviya has joined #pbgsc 16:26:29 present+ 16:26:55 present+ leslie 16:27:22 ack cristina 16:27:30 ack George 16:27:40 present+ garth 16:29:43 proposal: set up a surveymonkey with the question whether an ISO standard on 3.0.1 would be detrimental or not for 3.1; gather all the people whom we think should answer the survey 16:31:02 s/ISO standard/upgrade existing ISO TS/ 16:31:49 no - ask about both so... 16:32:41 proposal: set up a surveymonkey with questions whether support for a) upgrade existing ISO TS from 3.0 to 3.0.1 and/or b) create new ISO IS for 3.0.1 with comments solicited as well 16:35:05 q+ 16:35:50 Topic: STEM Publishing 16:36:07 ivan: BG can take up this topic, MathML is major issue 16:36:59 ... there is a CG for mathematics on the Web but not sure what is happening with it. I had hoped that there would be systematic work on efficient MathML implementation on modern browsers which could lead to features that could feed back some work on W3C, but CG hasn't done it but instead taken up disparate topics 16:37:10 BillM: what happened to Scholarly HTML CG? 16:37:22 Karen has joined #pbgsc 16:37:31 ivan: Scholarly HTML moribund, I think 16:37:43 BillM: I think that Robin Berjon moving on was a problem for Scholarly HTML CG 16:37:59 q+ 16:38:10 ack tzviya 16:38:21 tzviya: MathJAX primary tool. Vivliostyle is working to make better math support on browsers 16:40:07 BillM: there are also issues around an author-friendly representation for mathematics e.g. LaTex could be sidecar to MathML and be used to render for some workflows and be fodder for downstream editing 16:41:16 George: DAISY has been looking to make mathematics recommendations in our a11y spec, we participated in the Math on the Web CG ... most of it revolves around MathJAX if JS is available with SVG with fallbacks as alternative with alt-text or MathML as fallback (MathML hidden from users but available to assistive technology) 16:41:24 q+ 16:41:28 ack George 16:41:36 MathJax is widely used in production of STM content and most STM content has math in MathML but in JATS XML, not in the context of HTML and EPUB 16:43:12 +1 to BillM (alas!) 16:43:44 BillM: convergence of publishing and Web implies JS, since it's the extension mechanism for the browser stack... at some point we need to wrestle with the implications of this 16:44:19 BillM: but the good news is that once you can assume JS, you can do a lot more than when you have to think that maybe JS isn't available 16:44:34 BillM: the bad news is that it creates lots of issues for a11y, for security, for archivability, ... 16:44:49 ivan: getting views of Peter and others on MathJAX etc. may be helpful 16:49:16 https://www.w3.org/Member/wiki/PubSummit#Attendance_Success_Metrics_and_Milestones 16:50:32 Bye 16:50:44 bye! 16:52:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:52:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/05-pbgsc-minutes.html ivan 16:53:00 rrsagent, bye 16:53:00 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/05-pbgsc-actions.rdf : 16:53:00 ACTION: BillM to add column for speaker contacts to speaker list in google sheet [1] 16:53:00 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/05-pbgsc-irc#T16-13-38 16:53:00 ACTION: BillM to check whether registering for PBG meeting auto-populates having to pay the Friday TPAC registration fee and if so come up with a workaround [2] 16:53:00 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/05-pbgsc-irc#T16-17-37