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Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference

27 Jul 2016

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Attendees

Present
frans, roba, kerry, billroberts, dmitrybrizhinev, ScottSimmons, duo, ChrisLittle_, ChrisLittle
Regrets
maik, jonblower
Chair
bill
Scribe
roba, rob atkinson

Contents


<ScottSimmons> ScottSimmons cannot join the WebEx for about 15 mins

<Kerry> +1

<billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2016/06/15-sdwcov-minutes

<Duo> +1

<billroberts> scribe:roba

<Kerry> scribe: rob atkinson

<Kerry> scribeNick: roba

<billroberts> PROPOSED:approve minutes of last meeting https://www.w3.org/2016/06/15-sdwcov-minutes

<billroberts> +1

+1

<frans> +0 (I was not there)

<Duo> +1

RESOLUTION: minutes approved

<billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call

<billroberts> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2016Jul/0172.html

billroberts: discussion of plan of action required

<Kerry> roba: has a strawman proposal out there for a general spatial ontology: interested in using the rdf as a desciption of coverage, if not the cov itself

<Kerry> bill: agrees

roba: RDF-QB can be used for descrption not just encoding - overlap with json encoding - particular if using JSON-LD

Kerry: points to Peter Bauman's proposal on email list
... CITE testing - rigourous testing expection - is this feasible
... Phil A - maybe not a recommendation - but a Note/OGC discussion paper
... missed your first point - could you summarise plz.

Bill: asks if ScottSimmons can discuss requirements for implementation

<Kerry> first point: we ned to seriously consider peter baumanns contribution on an ontology for coverage as it may solve a few problems, esp performance. but I hve not had a chance to look

<Kerry> q

roba: asks what implementation is necessary if we are suggesting use of available vocabularies

frans: can we define a reusable data type for coverage?

billroberts: challenge is defining the domain in systematic way
... not the payload/range so much which is usually a list of numbers

<Kerry> roba: yes the domain is hard to describe, the datatypes are no so hard, can be embeded in covjson header and

<Kerry> ...rdf qb still useful

<Kerry> bill: agress -- defining all the values and units is trckier, and axes etc to save serialisation spce

<Kerry> s/gees/grees/

<Kerry> s/gess/grees/

<ScottSimmons> ScottSimmons is back - sorry for the ling 15 mins

<Kerry> roba: the structure description part is what is useful

roba: points out the datastructureDescription part of qb is relevant..

ScottSimmons: to be a regular OGC spec no req for reference implementation - but must have a SWG

<scribe> ...new standard (community standard) with reference implementations - probably not relevant here

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: recommends establishment of SWG to make into a recommendation - fasted possible about 3 months

billroberts: what corresponds to W3C Note

ScottSimmons: Discussion Paper, or BestPractice - more of an official OGC position with review

<scribe> ACTION: BillRoberts to talk to PhilA re W3C requirements and process [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Talk to phila re w3c requirements and process [on Bill Roberts - due 2016-08-03].

<sam> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Notes_from_the_ANU_Team

billroberts: covjson aiming at draft for lisbon F2F
... asks re RDF QB plans

sam: slicing and dicing aspect - looking at SPARQL support rather than defining slices using URIs

ChrisLittle_: met. Use case - lots of users - but needing multi-D tiles (millions of users concurrently) - so pre-slicing and dicing important
... nesting/tiling across different granularity

sam: agrees SPARQL over pointcloud not feasible in this case

billroberts: UCR document - asks for review

<scribe> ACTION: ChrisLittle_ to review UCR doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Error finding 'ChrisLittle_'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.

<billroberts> kerry

Kerry: is this arbitraty or predefined custom dices?

Chris: predefined - based on domain users

billroberts: cf. Reading group work on this

Chris: previous OGC interest low - but more domains looking at n-D tiling now...

billroberts: is there a general issue here re tiling of n-D coverages on the Web

chris: different patterns for accessing data in n-d cubes recognised in Meteorological domain
... WCS met-ocean profile

billroberts: will mull over and attempt to revise plan..
... asks for input on RDF-QB

roba: by next call will share ideas on coverage description,

<scribe> ACTION: roba to share QB coverage description straw-man [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Share qb coverage description straw-man [on Rob Atkinson - due 2016-08-03].

<billroberts> thanks everyone

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: BillRoberts to talk to PhilA re W3C requirements and process [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: ChrisLittle_ to review UCR doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: roba to share QB coverage description straw-man [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-sdwcov-minutes.html#action03]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. minutes approved
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