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<clown> agenda: this
<scribe> scribe: joanie
JS: I'm just back from
vacation.
... Anything I should know about?
... That impact accessibility mappings.
CS: Trying to get to CR in June.
JS: Yes. But the Core AAM is not
going to make it to CR in June.
... We'll be playing catch-up.
... But hopefully the ARIA spec will be in shape by then.
CS: And we'll also be tesing then.
JD: (Reviews commit list to ARIA spec and mentions several item.)
JS: I'm still catching up on the lists. So I'll find out more as I go along.
JS: Rich isn't here yet.
... Unless someone has updates, let's continue.
<Rich> RS: I have all but Apple
<Rich> RS: Recommend putting in my drop and have Joanie add the apple piece
<clown> action-2054
<trackbot> action-2054 -- Matthew King to Expand aria-haspopup to support a token list of values -- due 2016-04-28 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2054
<clown> issue-1025
<trackbot> issue-1025 -- Drive mappings of the new enumerated type values for aria-haspopup -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1025
<clown> action-2056
<trackbot> action-2056 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Coordinate the mappings for the various AAPIs of the enumerated aria-haspopup values -- due 2016-05-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2056
JS: I have a note in Rich's action that he needs to modify the error section of the Core AAM.
RS: I have everything done except
for Apple.
... Joanie was going to work on the implementation.
... So we could merge in my changes.
<Rich> https://github.com/w3c/aria/tree/action2056
JS + RS: (Discuss how to do the actual merge)
<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2056/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_state-property_table
JS: The above URL gets you close
to where the changes are.
... Do we want separate entries for these?
RS: I think so. It's consistent with what we've done for smiliar items.
<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2056/core-aam/core-aam.html#document-handling_author-errors
RS: The only thing I do not have is AXAPI.
JD: Making the changes in WebKit is on my to-do list.
<clown> action-2056?
<trackbot> action-2056 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Coordinate the mappings for the various AAPIs of the enumerated aria-haspopup values -- due 2016-05-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2056
RS: I'll update the action and assign it to Joanie.
<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2056/core-aam/core-aam.html#document-handling_author-errors
JS: Rich, where did you change
the errors?
... The above URL is where I'm looking.
RS: It had to do with default
states.
... If you go down to the table under "author errors".
... (Reads from text)
JS: I only see it on menu item.
RS: It's on combobox as
well.
... Those are the only two that have to have them.
... The default is listbox.
JS: I will try to merge it in soon.
RS: Cynthia, range-related roles have a role mapping, but not a pattern.
CS: If you give me an action, I'll add it.
<clown> ACTION: Cynthia to add UIA Range Value Pattern to the range related roles in the role mapping table (e.g., slider). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/05/24-aapi-irc]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2070 - Add uia range value pattern to the range related roles in the role mapping table (e.g., slider). [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2016-05-31].
<clown> action-2070
<trackbot> action-2070 -- Cynthia Shelly to Add uia range value pattern to the range related roles in the role mapping table (e.g., slider). -- due 2016-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2070
JS: Due date?
CS: Rich, when do you need it?
RS: I'm just trying to lock the ARIA spec down.
CS: July 1st.
JD: Still on hold.
<clown> action-1409?
<trackbot> action-1409 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Monitor progress of bug against atk in gnome's bugzilla requesting new position, level, and other api be added (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727453) -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1409
JS: As I recall, you want this brought up each week.
JD: Yes please. Poke me until I do it.
<clown> action-980?
<trackbot> action-980 -- Cynthia Shelly to Describe/define managed aria related states: aria-setsize, aria-posinset, aria-level, focused, focusable with reference to section 5.5 bullet 1 of the UAIG. -- due 2016-05-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/980
JS: This is the section on ARIA managed states.
CS: I've not yet gotten to
this.
... Give me two weeks.
JS: 7th of June.
<clown> action-1533?
<trackbot> action-1533 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Investigate and possibly create a minimal/skeleton javascript at-spi2 listener with the aim of automating the 1.1 tests. -- due 2016-05-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1533
JS: We dealt with this last
meeting.
... But it's due today.
JD: This is part of the automated
testing stuff we're working on.
... Please poke me in a week.
<clown> action-1373?
<trackbot> action-1373 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case for when aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly on some but not all elements. -- due 2016-05-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1373
JS: This one is Cynthia's action
to create a test case.
... Before we were waiting on the ability to add test cases to
the test harness.
... I think that's in place now.
CS: I'm working through the HTML
AAM mappings now.
... Then I'll be on the Core AAM.
... Please give me three weeks.
<clown> issue-1026?
<trackbot> issue-1026 -- AAPI mappings for aria-errormessage -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1026
JS: How is this going?
... I have actions on Joanmarie, Alex, and James Craig.
... They were due a while ago.
JD: (Summarizes the status being stalled and James Teh having objections)
JS: Joanie had originally
proposed to make a description (via relationship).
... Because relations can have multiple targets.
RS: How do you tell which is the error?
JD: Object attribute.
RS: You could map it that way.
JS: But James Teh didn't like that either.
<clown> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-February/002010.html
<clown> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-February/002013.html
<clown> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-March/002027.html
JS: Reading from the above
emails.
... The thread starts in February, continues in March, and goes
into April.
<clown> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-April/002030.html
JS: I believe the above is the latest from James Teh.
RS: I don't know what it means to merge it into a description (quoting James' comment).
<clown> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-April/002030.html
JD: I don't care much for what
the mapping is, and James feels strongly.
... Given the apparent desire to have IA2 and ATK to remain as
parallel as possible, I will defer to James' preferred
mapping.
... Rich, would it make sense for you to get a mapping for IA2
out of James?
... Then I will accept whatever he wants in ATK.
... I can add new API to ATK, and a new relation type is quick
and easy (we don't need the to-be-created AtkAccessible
interface for that).
RS: Ok, I'll reply to James Teh.
<clown> action-1695
<trackbot> action-1695 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Propose UIA mapping for aria-kbdshortcuts -- due 2016-03-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1695
JS: Why is this mine?
CS: I providing the mapping. You just need to put it in, I think.
JS: Is it in a note?
CS: Yes, a couple of notes
ago.
... I could do a pull request, but that's not typically how
we've been doing things.
JS: You say we have two options.
<clown> AcceleratorKey = the contents of aria-kbdshortcuts.
CS: AcceleratorKey, yes.
... Mnemonic is something I'd like to do in the future.
JS: I'll put that one in.
RS: We have a lot of outstanding
issues.
... We may need to just divvy it up and get them done.
... We won't be adding new things to ARIA.
... And to write the test cases, we need to know what the
mappings are.
JS: I know.
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