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<trackbot> Date: 19 November 2014
short call... i'll do it
<npdoty> scribenick: kulick
justin: skip david's 2 issues till the end of the call
<justin> issue-262?
<trackbot> issue-262 -- guidance regarding server responses and timing -- pending review
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/262
justin: status check on issue
262
... Roy was going to type up proposal 2 weeks ago... were you
able to?
Roy: I wrote most of it, but
didnt commit it
... almost done. should be able to post to mailing list
tronight
justin: Rob, you and vincent were consiuderiung counter proposal... timing?
<npdoty> moneill2 also has an email on the topic
Rob: we will post something Monday or tuesday next week if necessary
justin: great
<justin> issue-235?
<trackbot> issue-235 -- Auditability requirement in Reasonable Security section -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/235
<WileyS> Note for minutes: 10 participants on today's call excluding staff and co-chair.
justin: Roy, you were going to propose response to SHane's about who is setting the DNT signal... can you do in next week or so
<WileyS> Per Nick's note my statement is more for the TCS, not the TPE
Roy: sure, assuming i dont forget.
justin: issue 235... auditability
going to CfO
... nick please create CfO action
npdoty: sure
<npdoty> walter, okay with my friendly amendment?
justin: 2 more issues....
<npdoty> ah, yes, I see your email, walter
<walter> npdoty: yes, I've expressed as much by mail
justin: issue 24 and issue
148....
... sec reqs and what DNT means in diff contexts
... check if you have any objs
... issue 203
<justin> issue-203?
<trackbot> issue-203 -- Use of "tracking" in third-party compliance -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/203
<npdoty> issue-148 had actually been in the draft for a while, I was just confirming that we had the text we talked about earlier
justin: npdoty commited a new version last night merging the lang... can you please describe
npdoty: 2 proposals on 203... key diff was concept that server doesnt know inherently that if itas a first party... took from Roy's about discerning party status... added that text to 1st party compliance
<fielding> action fielding to respond to issue-260 regarding validating DNT signal
<trackbot> Created ACTION-465 - Respond to issue-260 regarding validating dnt signal [on Roy Fielding - due 2014-11-26].
npdoty: when knowing... we all
already agreed upon when unknown
... 2nd part of change to implement dsinger's proposal to use
tracking data to say no just any piece of info but used for
tracking.
<fielding> not yet
justin: any questions or had a chance to look yet
<npdoty> sorry that that went out late last night
<walter> this seems a bit of an edge case to me
justin: roy hasnt seen...
... yet.
... signifacnat change but dont seem far apart, in theory
... please check it out
... to reach resolution in next couple weeks
... two other issues, david's issues
... Mike and API issue.... do you have proposal on how to
resoluve exp parameter
moneill2: domain using sub domain
and combining with issue 262 to build in clarity for ad
exchanges to give consent for bidders
... prob with using cookies and a page and using sub domains is
limiting...
moneill2 is hard to scribe ;)
<WileyS> How does the domain list approach not solve the same issue?
<fielding> Mike is talking about http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2014Nov/0037.html
scribe: if becomes prob about
domain attribute... we can leave it to the user
... could be handled by web app sec WG
justin: do we have prop to temp approve in our doc?
moneill2: we have a
placeholder... and I will add something over the weekend about
independent use that needs to be addressed
... currently we have a placeholder to address it
npdoty: exp paramater
discussion... current status is to just integrate it... i have
concerns about potential scope of the change...
... we consider in the group trying to related domains within a
company... but I domnt think we are there yet. I dont think
checking domains now is a good outcome.
<WileyS> This approach feels more expensive than the list approach and that was already going to be difficult to manage.
justin: okay, let's push these back to resolve later
<justin> Right, the expiry parameter is just waiting for dsinger to integrate.
<npdoty> WileyS, I think that was our sense from the last discussion of this general area, yes.
justin: other outstanding issues?
<npdoty> still has to work through more editorial suggestions, but will get to that during our off week
justin: wont have a call next
week... let's all look at issues over email and make
progress...
... npdoty has editorial work to do
npdoty: we have a req to pub
snapsho working draft every couple months
... goal to pub next tuesday
justin: sent to email if you have
feedback
... anyone... anyone... bueller?
<npdoty> I'll follow up on the mailing list to make sure people are comfortable with publishing a new Working Draft snapshot
justin: prob a couple more CfOs going forward, but almost done. bye
<npdoty> trackbot, end meeting
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