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XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 25 February 2009

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Feb/0037.html
Seen
Alessio Cartocci, Mark Birbeck, Markus Gylling, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Tina Holmboe, Unknown _alessio
Regrets
Mark Birbeck
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Steven Pemberton
Previous Meeting
http://www.w3.org/2009/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html
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14:44:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2

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14:44:49 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
14:44:49 <trackbot> Date: 25 February 2009
14:45:32 <Tina> I'm present on IRC, but in another phone meeting.

Tina Holmboe: I'm present on IRC, but in another phone meeting.

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14:45:43 <Zakim> + +2

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14:45:59 <Steven_> zakim, dial steven-617

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14:46:00 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:46:07 <Zakim> +McCarron

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14:46:15 <ShaneM> zakim, McCarron is ShaneM

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14:46:18 <Zakim> +Roland

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14:47:04 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Feb/0037.html
14:47:12 <Steven> Chair: Roland
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14:47:38 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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14:47:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

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14:47:43 <alessio> zakim, ??P11 is Alessio

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, ??P11 is Alessio

14:47:43 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

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14:47:43 <Steven> zakim, who is here?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here?

14:47:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see +2, Steven, ShaneM, Roland, Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +2, Steven, ShaneM, Roland, Alessio

14:47:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, mgylling, ShaneM, Roland, Tina, Steven, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, mgylling, ShaneM, Roland, Tina, Steven, trackbot

14:48:08 <Steven> zakim, +2 is mgylling

Steven Pemberton: zakim, +2 is mgylling

14:48:08 <Zakim> +mgylling; got it

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14:49:35 <Steven> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html
14:49:41 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)

14:50:00 <Steven> Topic: TPAC and FtFs

1. TPAC and FtFs

14:50:13 <Steven> Roland: We did have a FtF planned.

Roland Merrick: We did have a FtF planned.

14:50:52 <Steven> ... But let's talk TPAC

... But let's talk TPAC

14:51:00 <Steven> Steven: We've been asked if we will be going

Steven Pemberton: We've been asked if we will be going

14:51:26 <Steven> ... in our case, those of us who can go, and the rest do it by telephone

... in our case, those of us who can go, and the rest do it by telephone

14:51:42 <Steven> Roland: So who will likely come?

Roland Merrick: So who will likely come?

14:52:07 <Tina> Where is it?

Tina Holmboe: Where is it?

14:52:15 <Steven> Shane: California in November? I'd be happy to go

Shane McCarron: California in November? I'd be happy to go

14:52:19 <Steven> Steven: I'll go

Steven Pemberton: I'll go

14:52:39 <Steven> Roland: Not if it were today; don't know yet about November

Roland Merrick: Not if it were today; don't know yet about November

14:53:00 <Steven> Steven: November is a difficult time anyway for funding

Steven Pemberton: November is a difficult time anyway for funding

14:53:24 <Steven> Markus: I have money for one W3C trip, so I could make it

Markus Gylling: I have money for one W3C trip, so I could make it

14:53:35 <Steven> Tina?

Tina?

14:53:55 <Tina> Steven: where is the FtF. California is out for me.

Steven Pemberton: where is the FtF. California is out for me. [ Scribe Assist by Tina Holmboe ]

14:54:09 <Steven> OK, California it is

OK, California it is

14:54:25 <Steven> Roland: If it is only 2 or 3 people, then most of us would be by phone anyway

Roland Merrick: If it is only 2 or 3 people, then most of us would be by phone anyway

14:54:57 <Steven> Steven: TPAC is a good opportunity to meet other WGs though

Steven Pemberton: TPAC is a good opportunity to meet other WGs though

14:55:13 <Steven> Steven: Shall we give a lukewarm response to the request then?

Steven Pemberton: Shall we give a lukewarm response to the request then?

14:55:19 <Steven> Roland: That's the best we can do

Roland Merrick: That's the best we can do

14:55:47 <Steven> Steven: And then FtFs (virtual)

Steven Pemberton: And then FtFs (virtual)

14:57:19 <Steven> ... do we want to plan a long phone call?

... do we want to plan a long phone call?

14:57:44 <Steven> Roland: Yes, a couple of days, two 4 hour calls maybe, to break the back of some of the work

Roland Merrick: Yes, a couple of days, two 4 hour calls maybe, to break the back of some of the work

14:58:20 <Steven> ... that would make it easier to find timezone friendly slots

... that would make it easier to find timezone friendly slots

14:58:35 <Steven> ... so how about one in the next month?

... so how about one in the next month?

14:58:47 <Steven> Steven: Suits me

Steven Pemberton: Suits me

14:59:55 <Steven> ... what are people's favoured times

... what are people's favoured times

15:00:04 <Steven> Shane: Honestly doesn't matter

Shane McCarron: Honestly doesn't matter

15:00:22 <Steven> Steven: Anyone else?

Steven Pemberton: Anyone else?

15:00:44 <Steven> Roland: Tuesday and Thursday maybe, pm UTC

Roland Merrick: Tuesday and Thursday maybe, pm UTC

15:02:50 <Steven> Roland: How about one session on Tuesday 17 March?

Roland Merrick: How about one session on Tuesday 17 March?

15:02:56 <Steven> Markus: Not for me

Markus Gylling: Not for me

15:03:04 <Steven> ... in LA the whole week at a conference

... in LA the whole week at a conference

15:03:30 <Steven> ... hwo about 10th

... how about 10th

15:03:35 <Steven> s/hwo/how/
15:03:49 <Steven> Steven: and the 12th I could do

Steven Pemberton: and the 12th I could do

15:04:16 <Tina> I can do most times/dates.

Tina Holmboe: I can do most times/dates.

15:04:48 <Steven> Roland: Time?

Roland Merrick: Time?

15:05:13 <Steven> Shane: 13-17 UTC would be fine for me

Shane McCarron: 13-17 UTC would be fine for me

15:05:22 <Steven> Steven: OK with me too

Steven Pemberton: OK with me too

15:05:34 <alessio> +1

Alessio Cartocci: +1

15:05:44 <Roland> +1

Roland Merrick: +1

15:05:47 <mgylling> +1

Markus Gylling: +1

15:06:50 <Steven> Markus: Preliminary date for the second?

Markus Gylling: Preliminary date for the second?

15:07:36 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio

15:07:53 <Steven> Steven: I can't make the 19th

Steven Pemberton: I can't make the 19th

15:08:53 <Steven> Topic: @lang

2. @lang

15:09:03 <Steven> Roland: We are happy to do it.

Roland Merrick: We are happy to do it.

15:09:26 <Steven> ... I think it is already in HTML5

... I think it is already in HTML5

15:09:43 <Steven> Shane: Isn't that only in the XML Serialization?

Shane McCarron: Isn't that only in the XML Serialization?

15:10:08 <Steven> Roland: Is it in the current PERs?

Roland Merrick: Is it in the current PERs?

15:10:12 <mgylling> xml:lang is now allowed in HTML when lang is also specified and they have the same value. In XML lang is allowed if xml:lang is also specified and they have the same value.

Scribe problem: the name 'xml' does not match any of the 23 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown xml: lang is now allowed in HTML when lang is also specified and they have the same value. In XML lang is allowed if xml:lang is also specified and they have the same value. [ Scribe Assist by Markus Gylling ]

15:10:13 <Steven> Shane: I thought so

Shane McCarron: I thought so

15:10:23 <mgylling> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-diff-20090212/

Markus Gylling: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-diff-20090212/

15:10:59 <alessio> zakim, code?

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, code?

15:10:59 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), alessio

15:11:01 <Steven> XHTML 1.1 - Module-based XHTML

XHTML 1.1 - Module-based XHTML

15:11:01 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11

15:11:01 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml11-20090206/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml11-20090206/

15:11:01 <Steven>      XHTML Basic 1.1

XHTML Basic 1.1

15:11:01 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic

15:11:01 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml-basic-20090206/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml-basic-20090206/

15:11:03 <Steven>      XHTML Print

XHTML Print

15:11:05 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/

15:11:07 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml-print-20090206/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml-print-20090206/

15:11:09 <Steven>      XHTML 1.0 The Extensible HyperText Markup Language

XHTML 1.0 The Extensible HyperText Markup Language

15:11:12 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1

15:11:13 <Steven>           http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml1-20090218/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml1-20090218/

15:11:16 <Steven>

15:11:34 <Steven> Steven: Yes @lang is in there

Steven Pemberton: Yes @lang is in there

15:11:55 <Steven> Roland: So it's in there, nothing we have to do

Roland Merrick: So it's in there, nothing we have to do

15:12:43 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11

15:13:00 <Tina> Zakim, P11 is Tina

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, P11 is Tina

15:13:00 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named 'P11'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named 'P11'

15:13:08 <Tina> Zakim, +??P11 is Tina

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, +??P11 is Tina

15:13:08 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '+??P11'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '+??P11'

15:13:25 <alessio> zakim, ??P11 is TIna

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, ??P11 is TIna

15:13:27 <Zakim> +TIna; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TIna; got it

15:13:36 <Tina> alessio: thank you :)

Alessio Cartocci: thank you :) [ Scribe Assist by Tina Holmboe ]

15:13:55 <alessio> :)

Alessio Cartocci: :)

15:14:47 <Zakim> +??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12

15:14:58 <alessio> zakim, ??P12 is Alessio

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, ??P12 is Alessio

15:14:58 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it

15:15:24 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio

15:15:59 <Steven> Topic: PERs

3. PERs

15:16:08 <Steven> Steven: They have been requested

Steven Pemberton: They have been requested

15:16:18 <Steven> ... waiting for a reply basically

... waiting for a reply basically

15:16:32 <Steven> Topic: Member survey

4. Member survey

15:20:20 <Steven> Steven: XHTML2 WG got quite a lot of support

Steven Pemberton: XHTML2 WG got quite a lot of support

15:20:26 <Zakim> +??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12

15:20:34 <_alessio> zakim, ??P12 is Alessio

Scribe problem: the name '_alessio' does not match any of the 23 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name '_alessio' does not match any of the 23 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown _alessio: zakim, ??P12 is Alessio

15:20:34 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it

15:20:49 <Steven> Topic: WAI ARIA Last call

5. WAI ARIA Last call

15:21:28 <Tina> Zakim, mute me

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, mute me

15:21:28 <Zakim> TIna should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TIna should now be muted

15:21:47 <Steven> Roland: DEadline 24 March

Roland Merrick: DEadline 24 March

15:21:51 <Steven> s?DE/De/

s?De/De/

15:21:56 <Steven> s/DE/De/
15:22:41 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2009/02/13-hcg-minutes.html

http://www.w3.org/2009/02/13-hcg-minutes.html

15:23:15 <Steven> Shane: How could HCG have agreed such a tight timeline?

Shane McCarron: How could HCG have agreed such a tight timeline?

15:23:23 <Steven> Steven: Wait, I don't think they did

Steven Pemberton: Wait, I don't think they did

15:23:42 <Steven> ... their decision to go to last call was after the last HCG meeting

... their decision to go to last call was after the last HCG meeting

15:26:56 <Tina> Zakim, unmute me

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, unmute me

15:26:56 <Zakim> TIna should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TIna should no longer be muted

15:27:04 <Steven> Shane: Tina, are you going to read it?

Shane McCarron: Tina, are you going to read it?

15:27:31 <Steven> Tina: I do plan to read, I can do a light review

Tina Holmboe: I do plan to read, I can do a light review

15:29:04 <Steven> Shane: Let's talk about it in 3 weeks then

Shane McCarron: Let's talk about it in 3 weeks then

15:29:38 <Steven> ACTION: Tina to lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March

ACTION: Tina to lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March

15:29:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March [on Tina Holmboe - due 2009-03-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-51 - Lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March [on Tina Holmboe - due 2009-03-04].

15:29:51 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to read WAI ARIA by 18 march

ACTION: Steven to read WAI ARIA by 18 march

15:29:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Read WAI ARIA by 18 march [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-03-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-52 - Read WAI ARIA by 18 march [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-03-04].

15:30:25 <Steven> TOPIC: AC MEeting

6. AC Meeting

15:30:30 <Steven> s/ME/Me/
15:33:24 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio

15:35:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:35:29 <alessio> zakim, IPcaller is Alessio

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, IPcaller is Alessio

15:35:29 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it

15:35:58 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter

Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter

15:36:03 <Steven> Steven: The HTML5 chater has been rolled back

Steven Pemberton: The HTML5 charter has been rolled back

15:36:38 <Steven> ... there are now two WGs with XHTML1.* in their charter

... there are now two WGs with XHTML1.* in their charter

15:36:47 <Steven> s/chater/charter/
15:37:06 <Steven> Shane: I can see why this would be an issue for the AC then

Shane McCarron: I can see why this would be an issue for the AC then

15:42:07 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2009Jan/0048.html

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2009Jan/0048.html

15:42:17 <Steven>   <http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2009/01/rdfa-means-extensibility>

<http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2009/01/rdfa-means-extensibility>

15:42:37 <Steven> Steven: So there are a number of possible solutions being proposed

Steven Pemberton: So there are a number of possible solutions being proposed

15:43:08 <Steven> Roland: Steven, you were going to write a summary

Roland Merrick: Steven, you were going to write a summary

15:43:25 <Steven> Steven: I published the url to a first draft last week

Steven Pemberton: I published the url to a first draft last week

15:43:39 <Steven> ... Already had some good comments from Markus

... Already had some good comments from Markus

15:44:05 <Steven> ... and he pointed me to the links above of commetns by Mark

... and he pointed me to the links above of comments by Mark

15:44:28 <Steven> s/metns/ments/
15:45:02 <Steven> Roland: Extensibility is not the essence of XHTML2 as far as I can see

Roland Merrick: Extensibility is not the essence of XHTML2 as far as I can see

15:45:25 <Steven> ... it is more *intent*

... it is more *intent*

15:45:41 <Steven> ... separation of concerns

... separation of concerns

15:46:00 <Steven> ... what goes over the wires is a rendering issue

... what goes over the wires is a rendering issue

15:46:18 <Steven> ... the degree of separation is the essence of XHTML2

... the degree of separation is the essence of XHTML2

15:46:32 <Steven> ... which is why it is beneficial to device independence

... which is why it is beneficial to device independence

15:46:51 <Steven> ... we have the opposite view of what to do as HTML5

... we have the opposite view of what to do as HTML5

15:47:02 <Steven> ... not about pixel perfection at the authoring level

... not about pixel perfection at the authoring level

15:47:41 <Steven> [ADJOURN]

[ADJOURN]

15:47:45 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland

15:47:46 <Zakim> -TIna

Zakim IRC Bot: -TIna

15:47:48 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

15:47:50 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio

15:47:53 <Zakim> -mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: -mgylling

15:48:04 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

15:48:06 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

15:48:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, ShaneM, Roland, Alessio, mgylling, TIna

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Steven, ShaneM, Roland, Alessio, mgylling, TIna

15:48:08 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:48:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

15:50:05 <Steven> no

no

15:50:08 <Steven> just 1.*

just 1.*

15:50:19 <Steven> s/DE/De/
15:50:23 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:50:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

15:51:01 <Steven> s|s?De/De/||

s|s?De/De/||

15:51:06 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:51:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

15:53:24 <ShaneM> I do not believe that the AC voted on the charter that is currently at the html 5 charter URI.  BUt of course since I am not on the AC, I do not have the record of the mails that were sent asking for votes.

Shane McCarron: I do not believe that the AC voted on the charter that is currently at the html 5 charter URI. BUt of course since I am not on the AC, I do not have the record of the mails that were sent asking for votes.

15:53:26 <Steven> Regrets: MarkB
15:53:42 <Steven> why do you think that Shane?

why do you think that Shane?

15:53:45 <Steven> I can check

I can check

15:54:07 <ShaneM> because I am relatively certain that at the time we pointed out the inconsistency between the charters and it got fixed

Shane McCarron: because I am relatively certain that at the time we pointed out the inconsistency between the charters and it got fixed

15:54:23 <Steven> I'll look later

I'll look later

15:57:52 <Tina> It sounds as if there is a procedure flaw somewhere. Has the issue of who, in general, maintain and develop XHTML Family documents been formally concluded on?

Tina Holmboe: It sounds as if there is a procedure flaw somewhere. Has the issue of who, in general, maintain and develop XHTML Family documents been formally concluded on?

15:58:10 <ShaneM> no.  there is an AC meeting in a couple of weeks and I suspect that is on the agenda.

Shane McCarron: no. there is an AC meeting in a couple of weeks and I suspect that is on the agenda.

15:58:45 <Steven> rrsagent, bye

rrsagent, bye

15:58:45 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-actions.rdf :

15:58:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tina to lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March [1]

ACTION: Tina to lightly review WAI ARIA by 18 March [1]

15:58:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-irc#T15-29-38

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-xhtml-irc#T15-29-38

15:58:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Steven to read WAI ARIA by 18 march [2]

ACTION: Steven to read WAI ARIA by 18 march [2]

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