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XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

Minutes of 11 June 2008

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0034.html
Seen
Alessio Cartocci, Mark Birbeck, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Tina Holmboe, Unknown yamx
Regrets
Alessio Cartocci
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Shane McCarron
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. The XHTML 2 Working Group agrees that the document at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/CR-rdfa-syntax-20080612 is ready to transition to CR. link
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13:28:10 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc

13:29:02 <RolandMerrick> RolandMerrick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0034.html

Roland Merrick: RolandMerrick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0034.html

13:29:35 <RolandMerrick> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
13:29:53 <RolandMerrick> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0034.html
13:30:02 <RolandMerrick> Chair: Roland
13:30:59 <Roland> Regrets: Alessio
13:31:17 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, list

Roland Merrick: Zakim, list

13:31:17 <Zakim> I see Team_W3M()8:00AM active

Zakim IRC Bot: I see Team_W3M()8:00AM active

13:31:18 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time is IA_XHTML2()9:45AM

Zakim IRC Bot: also scheduled at this time is IA_XHTML2()9:45AM

13:31:19 <markbirbeck> Hi Roland. I forgot to send my apologies, but I'm at the XForms FtF with Steven.

Mark Birbeck: Hi Roland. I forgot to send my apologies, but I'm at the XForms FtF with Steven.

13:31:44 <Steven> but he's present at this call via irc :-)

Steven Pemberton: but he's present at this call via irc :-)

13:31:45 <Steven> like me

Steven Pemberton: like me

13:31:49 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, this will be XHTML2

Roland Merrick: Zakim, this will be XHTML2

13:31:49 <Zakim> ok, RolandMerrick; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, RolandMerrick; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes

13:40:59 <Steven> yes

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Steven Pemberton: yes

13:44:54 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started

13:45:01 <Zakim> +ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM

13:45:48 <Zakim> +Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland

13:48:09 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

13:48:19 <yamx> Zakim, ??P10 is yamx

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown yamx: Zakim, ??P10 is yamx

13:48:19 <Zakim> +yamx; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yamx; got it

13:50:15 <ShaneM> Scribe: Shane

(Scribe set to Shane McCarron)

13:50:26 <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM
13:50:35 <ShaneM> Topic: xml:base

1. xml:base

13:50:58 <ShaneM> Steven has sent comments on behalf of the xforms group.  roland suggests we review that response and see if we agree at our meeting next week,

Steven has sent comments on behalf of the xforms group. roland suggests we review that response and see if we agree at our meeting next week,

13:51:12 <ShaneM> ACTION: Roland place xml:base on agenda for f2f

ACTION: Roland place xml:base on agenda for f2f

13:51:36 <ShaneM> Topic:  XMLHttpRequest

2. XMLHttpRequest

13:52:02 <ShaneM> ShaneM had an action to send in a comment on this.  He did that.

ShaneM had an action to send in a comment on this. He did that.

13:52:09 <Roland> Shanes response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0031.html

Roland Merrick: Shanes response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0031.html

13:52:33 <Steven> (Forms WG discussing XHR at this very moment)

Steven Pemberton: (Forms WG discussing XHR at this very moment)

13:53:00 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-forms-irc#T13-52-51

Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-forms-irc#T13-52-51

13:53:05 <ShaneM> We assume this comment was accepted.  Have not yeard otherwise.

We assume this comment was accepted. Have not yeard otherwise.

13:53:26 <Steven> Mark will send his comments today or tomorrow

Steven Pemberton: Mark will send his comments today or tomorrow

13:53:33 <ShaneM> Topic: f2f next week

3. f2f next week

13:53:45 <ShaneM> Roland is building the agenda now.

Roland is building the agenda now.

13:54:41 <ShaneM> ARIA will be on it of course.

ARIA will be on it of course.

13:54:45 <ShaneM> Topic: M12N PR

4. M12N PR

13:54:54 <ShaneM> Shane says the document is ready.  Not sure what happens next.

Shane says the document is ready. Not sure what happens next.

13:55:26 <ShaneM> Steven has heard from IanJ about it.... It is in the pipeline

Steven has heard from IanJ about it.... It is in the W3C pipeline

13:55:43 <ShaneM> There were two actions on the agenda about m12N....  those are done.

There were two actions on the agenda about m12N.... those are done.

13:55:49 <Steven> I'm waiting for a reply from IanJ

Steven Pemberton: I'm waiting for a reply from IanJ

13:55:50 <ShaneM> s/pipeline/W3C pipeline/
13:56:05 <ShaneM> Topic:  XHTML Basic PR

5. XHTML Basic PR

13:56:35 <ShaneM> Transition call went well.  The second implementation in the report made it smoother.

Transition call went well. The second implementation in the report made it smoother.

13:56:44 <ShaneM> Shane says PR draft is ready.

Shane says PR draft is ready.

13:57:16 <ShaneM> We are waiting on the W3C publication team.  Should happen soon.  Steven?

We are waiting on the W3C publication team. Should happen soon. Steven?

13:57:54 <Steven> I sent a message to the comms team asking them to suggest a date

Steven Pemberton: I sent a message to the comms team asking them to suggest a date

13:58:00 <Steven> you were cc'd

Steven Pemberton: you were cc'd

13:58:03 <Steven> no reply yet

Steven Pemberton: no reply yet

13:59:20 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to compile CURIE last call comments for f2f review

ACTION: Shane to compile CURIE last call comments for f2f review

14:00:00 <ShaneM> IanJ reports that basic should be published today.

IanJ reports that basic should be published today.

14:00:29 <ShaneM> Topic:  XHTML Access

6. XHTML Access

14:00:35 <ShaneM> No last call comments so far.

No last call comments so far.

14:01:10 <ShaneM> Topic:  RDFa Syntax

7. RDFa Syntax

14:01:34 <ShaneM> We had 3 actions before being ready to go to CR.

We had 3 actions before being ready to go to CR.

14:01:52 <ShaneM> Steven sent our comments to the TAG - so that's done

Steven sent our comments to the TAG - so that's done

14:04:06 <ShaneM> Question - are we prepared to take rdfa syntax to CR?

Question - are we prepared to take rdfa syntax to CR?

14:04:16 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

14:04:35 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:04:36 <Tina> +1

Tina Holmboe: +1

14:04:39 <ShaneM> +1

+1

14:04:49 <Roland> +1

Roland Merrick: +1

14:05:24 <ShaneM> Shane reports that it is mature and stable - there are lots of implementations out there.

Shane reports that it is mature and stable - there are lots of implementations out there.

14:05:31 <ShaneM> yamx says he has no objections.

yamx says he has no objections.

14:06:16 <ShaneM> RESOLUTION:  The XHTML 2 Working Group agrees that the document at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/CR-rdfa-syntax-20080612 is ready to transition to CR.

RESOLVED: The XHTML 2 Working Group agrees that the document at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/CR-rdfa-syntax-20080612 is ready to transition to CR.

14:06:37 <ShaneM> Topic:  Role Attribute Module

8. Role Attribute Module

14:07:04 <ShaneM> Last Call is complete.  Needs to dovetail with ARIA and XHTML Access.  Will discuss at f2f.

Last Call is complete. Needs to dovetail with ARIA and XHTML Access. Will discuss at f2f.

14:07:50 <ShaneM> ACTION: Roland to create an agenda item at f2f about ARIA, Role, and XHTML Access.

ACTION: Roland to create an agenda item at f2f about ARIA, Role, and XHTML Access.

14:09:52 <ShaneM> Topic: XHTML 1.1 Second Edition

9. XHTML 1.1 Second Edition

14:09:58 <ShaneM> Will discuss at f2f...

Will discuss at f2f...

14:11:22 <ShaneM> Topic:  XHTMLMIME document

10. XHTMLMIME document

14:12:12 <ShaneM> Dont want to rush into revising publicly.  Need to do it right.  Will discuss next week as well.

Dont want to rush into revising publicly. Need to do it right. Will discuss next week as well.

14:12:21 <ShaneM> Topic: XML Events 2

11. XML Events 2

14:12:48 <ShaneM> XForms group is reviewing the new draft.  We can revise based upon their feedback then close it off next week - get it to last call.

XForms group is reviewing the new draft. We can revise based upon their feedback then close it off next week - get it to last call.

14:14:45 <ShaneM> yamx reports that OMA will get their 2.0 of browsing environment out the door soon.

yamx reports that OMA will get their 2.4 of browsing environment out the door soon.

14:15:06 <yamx> OMA is now the final stage of Browsing 2.4 Consistency Review.

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Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown yamx: OMA is now the final stage of Browsing 2.4 Consistency Review.

14:15:22 <yamx> OMA Browsing 2.4 has XHTML Mobile Profile 1.3 (equivalent of XHTML Basic 1.1)

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Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown yamx: OMA Browsing 2.4 has XHTML Mobile Profile 1.3 (equivalent of XHTML Basic 1.1)

14:15:25 <ShaneM> s/2.0/2.4/
14:15:35 <yamx> OMA will have Prague meeting in the week of June 23rd.

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Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown yamx: OMA will have Prague meeting in the week of June 23rd.

14:15:57 <yamx> If we have successfully resolve the issues, Browsing 2.4 will go "Candidate"

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Unknown yamx: If we have successfully resolve the issues, Browsing 2.4 will go "Candidate"

14:16:13 <yamx> OMA may  disband MAE(Mobile Application Environment) in Prague...

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Unknown yamx: OMA may disband MAE(Mobile Application Environment) in Prague...

14:16:23 <yamx> MAE deals with Browsing 2.4.

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Unknown yamx: MAE deals with Browsing 2.4.

14:16:25 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

14:16:31 <Zakim> -yamx

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx

14:16:40 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland

14:16:41 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

14:16:41 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, Roland, yamx

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ShaneM, Roland, yamx

14:17:07 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes

14:17:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

14:17:26 <Roland> rrsagent, make log public

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make log public

14:17:48 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes

14:17:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

14:18:43 <Steven> Present+Steven, MarkB, Tina

Steven Pemberton: Present+Steven, MarkB, Tina

14:19:16 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes

14:19:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

14:19:20 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes

14:19:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

14:20:04 <Roland> zakim, please part

Roland Merrick: zakim, please part

14:21:05 <Roland> rrsagent, please part

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, please part

14:21:05 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-actions.rdf :

14:21:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland place xml:base on agenda for f2f [1]

ACTION: Roland place xml:base on agenda for f2f [1]

14:21:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T13-51-12

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T13-51-12

14:21:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane to compile CURIE last call comments for f2f review [2]

ACTION: Shane to compile CURIE last call comments for f2f review [2]

14:21:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T13-59-20

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T13-59-20

14:21:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland to create an agenda item at f2f about ARIA, Role, and XHTML Access. [3]

ACTION: Roland to create an agenda item at f2f about ARIA, Role, and XHTML Access. [3]

14:21:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T14-07-50

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-xhtml-irc#T14-07-50



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