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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 18 September 2012

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0194.html
Seen
Axel Polleres, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Sandro Hawke
Scribe
Axel Polleres
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. approve minutes from last time at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-11 link
Topics
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14:01:05 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now

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14:01:06 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:01:06 <trackbot> Date: 18 September 2012
14:03:29 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting

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14:03:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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14:03:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago

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14:03:35 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:03:35 <trackbot> Date: 18 September 2012
14:03:46 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:03:46 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres

14:03:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

14:04:07 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:04:18 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres

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14:04:34 <sandro> zakim, this is sparql

Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is sparql

14:04:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

14:04:40 <AxelPolleres> Matt, sandro on the phone, anybody else?

Axel Polleres: Matt, sandro on the phone, anybody else?

14:04:42 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

14:04:53 <Zakim> sparql matches both SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM and SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: sparql matches both SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM and SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM, sandro

14:04:57 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, sandro

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14:05:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AxelPolleres, RRSAgent, Zakim, MattPerry, pgearon__, pgearon, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro

14:05:39 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0194.html
14:05:56 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

1. admin

14:06:40 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve minutes from last time at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-11

PROPOSED: approve minutes from last time at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-11

14:07:20 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve minutes from last time at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-11

RESOLVED: approve minutes from last time at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-11

14:07:29 <AxelPolleres> scribe: AxelPolleres

(Scribe set to Axel Polleres)

14:07:44 <AxelPolleres> next telco ... in a week from now, usual time.

next telco ... in a week from now, usual time.

14:08:19 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

14:08:19 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, chimezie, I don't know what conference this is

14:08:30 <AxelPolleres> steve on the phone as well, greg, chime, sandro, matt, axel

steve on the phone as well, greg, chime, sandro, matt, axel

14:09:05 <AxelPolleres> topic: test cases

2. test cases

14:10:01 <AxelPolleres> :dawg-delete-using-02a   and :dawg-delete-using-06a

:dawg-delete-using-02a and :dawg-delete-using-06a

14:10:36 <AxelPolleres> the test cases were fixed, but the comments weren't

the test cases were fixed, but the comments weren't

14:11:36 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to fix comments on test cases :dawg-delete-using-02a   and :dawg-delete-using-06a and remind us to reapprove

ACTION: greg to fix comments on test cases :dawg-delete-using-02a and :dawg-delete-using-06a and remind us to reapprove

14:11:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-678 - Fix comments on test cases :dawg-delete-using-02a   and :dawg-delete-using-06a and remind us to reapprove [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-09-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-678 - Fix comments on test cases :dawg-delete-using-02a and :dawg-delete-using-06a and remind us to reapprove [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-09-25].

14:12:13 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments

3. comments

14:12:31 <AxelPolleres> JL-4 is acknowledged.

JL-4 is acknowledged.

14:12:43 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

14:13:55 <AxelPolleres> greg: RC-2... have talked offline  with richard

Gregory Williams: RC-2... have talked offline with richard

14:14:04 <AxelPolleres> ... ongoing

... ongoing

14:16:25 <AxelPolleres> topic: - status of implementations/implementation reports

4. - status of implementations/implementation reports

14:16:55 <AxelPolleres> axel: discussion on the list on the test harness for GSP

Axel Polleres: discussion on the list on the test harness for GSP

14:17:10 <AxelPolleres> cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0191.html

cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0191.html

14:18:03 <AxelPolleres> chime: implementations so far: Andy and me.

Chimezie Ogbuji: implementations so far: Andy and me.

14:18:07 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:18:28 <AxelPolleres> sandro: I had looked over it and made some suggestions

Sandro Hawke: I had looked over it and made some suggestions

14:18:57 <AxelPolleres> ... probably not worth to make it machine-readable.

... probably not worth to make it machine-readable.

14:19:41 <AxelPolleres> ... if someone had a client to run those tests, that'd be nice. chime?

... if someone had a client to run those tests, that'd be nice. chime?

14:19:48 <AxelPolleres> chime: I have a python script.

Chimezie Ogbuji: I have a python script.

14:20:12 <AxelPolleres> sandro: seems to me that this human readable doc and the script should do.

Sandro Hawke: seems to me that this human readable doc and the script should do.

14:21:15 <AxelPolleres> axel: how will we make the test suites visible to the public.

Axel Polleres: how will we make the test suites visible to the public.

14:21:22 <AxelPolleres> ?

?

14:21:36 <AxelPolleres> chime: I can make it a html doc.

Chimezie Ogbuji: I can make it a html doc.

14:22:12 <AxelPolleres> Axel: maybe in the style of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

Axel Polleres: maybe in the style of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

14:23:54 <AxelPolleres> ... is there a doc describing SD-tests?

... is there a doc describing SD-tests?

14:24:04 <AxelPolleres> greg: in the doc describing tyhe validator

Gregory Williams: in the doc describing tyhe validator

14:24:58 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to put links to non query/update tests into http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

ACTION: Axel to put links to non query/update tests into http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

14:24:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-679 - Put links to non query/update tests into http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-679 - Put links to non query/update tests into http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

14:25:11 <AxelPolleres> greg: will send a link to SD tests.

Gregory Williams: will send a link to SD tests.

14:25:45 <AxelPolleres> topic:  schedule: is voting for CR/PR in 1-2 weeks realistic?

5. schedule: is voting for CR/PR in 1-2 weeks realistic?

14:27:48 <AxelPolleres> sandro: voting in 1-2 weeks should be fine, open issues: RC-2 comments, test suite a bit more nailed down.

Sandro Hawke: voting in 1-2 weeks should be fine, open issues: RC-2 comments, test suite a bit more nailed down.

14:28:32 <AxelPolleres> we would go on Oct 2nd to PR where possible.

we would go on Oct 2nd to PR where possible.

14:28:42 <AxelPolleres> ... and CR for all others.

... and CR for all others.

14:29:13 <AxelPolleres> sandro: should be able to arrange transition.

Sandro Hawke: should be able to arrange transition.

14:29:31 <AxelPolleres> axel: how long does the W3C processes and all take?

Axel Polleres: how long does the W3C processes and all take?

14:29:49 <AxelPolleres> sandro: we could get it done by oct 4th, if the editors are all alert.

Sandro Hawke: we could get it done by oct 4th, if the editors are all alert.

14:30:28 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to alert all editors to be if possible present next week and the week after to resolve last issues

ACTION: axel to alert all editors to be if possible present next week and the week after to resolve last issues

14:30:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-680 - Alert all editors to be if possible present next week and the week after to resolve last issues [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-680 - Alert all editors to be if possible present next week and the week after to resolve last issues [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

14:31:04 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements

14:31:41 <sandro> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=pr-tr&skipcr=on

Sandro Hawke: http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=pr-tr&skipcr=on

14:32:03 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: sandro to check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements and make a list of things we'll go through per doc next time.

ACTION: sandro to check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements and make a list of things we'll go through per doc next time.

14:32:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-681 - Check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements and make a list of things we'll go through per doc next time. [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-09-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-681 - Check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Overall_PR.2Ffinal_editing_requirements and make a list of things we'll go through per doc next time. [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-09-25].

14:32:27 <AxelPolleres> topic: JL-4

6. RV-10

14:32:41 <AxelPolleres> s/JL-4/RV-10/
14:32:59 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Sep/0024.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Sep/0024.html

14:36:12 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to ask Rob Vesse Re:RV-10 for some specific editorial suggestion.

ACTION: Axel to ask Rob Vesse Re:RV-10 for some specific editorial suggestion.

14:36:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-682 - Ask Rob Vesse Re:RV-10 for some specific editorial suggestion. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-682 - Ask Rob Vesse Re:RV-10 for some specific editorial suggestion. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-25].

14:36:23 <AxelPolleres> AOB?

AOB?

14:36:36 <AxelPolleres> adjourned.

adjourned.

14:36:55 <AxelPolleres> RRSAgent, make records public

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