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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 12 June 2012

Agenda

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-06-12

Seen

Andy Seaborne, Arthur Keen, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Paula Gearon, Sandro Hawke, Steve Harris

Regrets

Birte Glimm, Lee Feigenbaum, Sandro Hawke

Chair

Axel Polleres

Scribe

Chimezie Ogbuji

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05 link

Topics

1. admin

2. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

3. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR

   1. query

   2. update

   3. entailment

   4. federated query

      I updated it

   5. result formats

   6. overview

4. schedule

13:57:37 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-sparql-irc

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13:57:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:57:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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13:57:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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13:57:42 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

13:57:42 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2012

13:58:02 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-06-12

13:58:08 <AxelPolleres> chair: AxelPolleres

13:58:23 <AxelPolleres> Regrets: Birte, Lee, Sandro

13:58:35 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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13:58:42 <Zakim> +??P1

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13:58:46 <AndyS> zakim, ??P1 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P1 is me ←

13:58:46 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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13:59:19 <Zakim> +pgearon

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13:59:24 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa

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13:59:29 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, aaaa is me ←

13:59:29 <Zakim> +kasei; got it

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13:59:57 <Zakim> + +49.897.aabb

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14:00:03 <Zakim> +??P9

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14:00:09 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P9 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←

14:00:09 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aabb is probably me

Axel Polleres: Zakim, aabb is probably me ←

14:00:19 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it

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14:00:23 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aacc

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14:00:42 <Olivier> Zakim, aacc is me

Olivier Corby: Zakim, aacc is me ←

14:00:42 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Olivier; got it ←

14:00:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres?, SteveH, Olivier

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres?, SteveH, Olivier ←

14:01:12 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, AxelPolleres? is me

Axel Polleres: Zakim, AxelPolleres? is me ←

14:01:12 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres; got it ←

14:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aadd ←

14:02:45 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode? ←

14:02:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie ←

14:03:04 <MattPerry> zakim, aadd is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, aadd is me ←

14:03:04 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←

14:03:13 <AxelPolleres> Chime, could you scribe?

Axel Polleres: Chime, could you scribe? ←

14:03:17 <Zakim> +Chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie ←

14:03:21 <chimezie> sure

Chimezie Ogbuji: sure ←

14:03:31 <AxelPolleres> scribe: chime

(Scribe set to Chimezie Ogbuji)

14:03:43 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me ←

14:03:43 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie should now be muted ←

14:04:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

14:04:38 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05 ←

14:04:50 <chimezie> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:04:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, SteveH, Olivier, MattPerry, Chimezie (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, SteveH, Olivier, MattPerry, Chimezie (muted) ←

14:05:15 <AndyS> I was not there.

Andy Seaborne: I was not there. ←

14:05:15 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05 ←

14:05:25 <AndyS> (I'm under both there and not there!)

Andy Seaborne: (I'm under both there and not there!) ←

14:05:39 <AndyS> (NP)

Andy Seaborne: (NP) ←

14:06:04 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-06-19 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST

Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-06-19 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST ←

14:06:10 <Olivier> regrets for next week

Olivier Corby: regrets for next week ←

14:06:23 <chimezie> I have regrets as well

I have regrets as well ←

14:06:32 <AxelPolleres> regrets for next week, from me too

Axel Polleres: regrets for next week, from me too ←

14:07:08 <AxelPolleres> andy, sandro would be next on the scribelist

Axel Polleres: andy, sandro would be next on the scribelist ←

14:07:23 <AndyS> Ok - (caveat slight RSI (shoulders))

Andy Seaborne: Ok - (caveat slight RSI (shoulders)) ←

14:07:25 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←

14:07:28 <chimezie> Axel: RDF WG liason?

Axel Polleres: RDF WG liason? ←

14:07:35 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P30 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P30 is me ←

14:07:36 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←

14:07:49 <chimezie> AndyS: nothing last week and didn't attend one before that

Andy Seaborne: nothing last week and didn't attend one before that ←

14:08:35 <chimezie> ... some discussion regarding JSON-LD , unclear where that stands (not related to SPARQL)

... some discussion regarding JSON-LD , unclear where that stands (not related to SPARQL) ←

14:08:44 <Zakim> + +1.512.651.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.512.651.aaee ←

14:09:02 <chimezie> Axel: comments review

Axel Polleres: comments review ←

14:09:04 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

14:09:35 <chimezie> Axel: important to address all open comments prior to going to next stage

Axel Polleres: important to address all open comments prior to going to next stage ←

14:09:39 <AndyS> q+ to ask about reorg the page

Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask about reorg the page ←

14:10:38 <chimezie> AndyS: should I clean up the page to make it more manageable.  Consolidation section should have all open comments, everything below is historical

Andy Seaborne: should I clean up the page to make it more manageable. Consolidation section should have all open comments, everything below is historical ←

14:11:08 <chimezie> Axel: I see open comments below

Axel Polleres: I see open comments below ←

14:11:17 <chimezie> AndyS: they should all be copied up

Andy Seaborne: they should all be copied up ←

14:11:35 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to move all open comments to a new wiki page

ACTION: Andy to move all open comments to a new wiki page ←

14:11:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-639 - Move all open comments to a new wiki page [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-639 - Move all open comments to a new wiki page [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:12:15 <chimezie> Axel: I have a draft response to discuss

Axel Polleres: I have a draft response to discuss ←

14:12:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-15

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-15 ←

14:12:39 <Zakim> -Chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie ←

14:13:05 <Zakim> +Chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie ←

14:13:48 <chimezie> Axel: Anyone want to look over comment?

Axel Polleres: Anyone want to look over comment? ←

14:14:02 <AxelPolleres> kindly asking for approval per email of KK-15 response.

Axel Polleres: kindly asking for approval per email of KK-15 response. ←

14:14:47 <chimezie> AndyS:  I think it's ok

Andy Seaborne: I think it's ok ←

14:15:18 <SteveH> looks fine to me too

Steve Harris: looks fine to me too ←

14:15:28 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to send response forKK-15

ACTION: axel to send response forKK-15 ←

14:15:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-640 - Send response forKK-15 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-640 - Send response forKK-15 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:15:48 <chimezie> Axel: others?

Axel Polleres: others? ←

14:16:15 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR

14:17:08 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: query

14:17:24 <chimezie> AndyS:  Query document.  PR page is up to date WRT outstanding issues to address

Andy Seaborne: Query document. PR page is up to date WRT outstanding issues to address ←

14:18:04 <AxelPolleres> getting ready by end of this month, if nothing else goes wrong.

Axel Polleres: getting ready by end of this month, if nothing else goes wrong. ←

14:18:45 <chimezie> AndyS:  Waiting on Paul review of PP.  May need review of changing sections

Andy Seaborne: Waiting on Paul review of PP. May need review of changing sections ←

14:18:48 <chimezie> .. and of BIND

.. and of BIND ←

14:18:52 <AxelPolleres> BIND stuff will also need reviewing

Axel Polleres: BIND stuff will also need reviewing ←

14:19:07 <chimezie> Axel: I sent reply on INSCOPE def.

Axel Polleres: I sent reply on INSCOPE def. ←

14:19:30 <chimezie> Axel: I'll take another look

Axel Polleres: I'll take another look ←

14:19:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope

ACTION: Axel to look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope ←

14:19:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-641 - Look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-641 - Look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:19:59 <AndyS> ACTION-639 Done

Andy Seaborne: ACTION-639 Done ←

14:20:18 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: update

14:21:04 <chimezie> Axel: Kjetl comments is relevant here, regarding bnode correlation

Axel Polleres: Kjetl comments is relevant here, regarding bnode correlation ←

14:21:11 <chimezie> ... wasn't able to go over test case proposed

... wasn't able to go over test case proposed ←

14:21:22 <chimezie> ... Greg suggested revision of test case

... Greg suggested revision of test case ←

14:21:54 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to check revision of test case proposed by greg

ACTION: axel to check revision of test case proposed by greg ←

14:21:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-642 - Check revision of test case proposed by greg [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-642 - Check revision of test case proposed by greg [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:22:17 <chimezie> Axel: Editing by Paul?

Axel Polleres: Editing by Paul? ←

14:22:24 <chimezie> Paul: no there is not.  Mostly done now

Paula Gearon: no there is not. Mostly done now ←

14:22:46 <chimezie> Axel: Hopefully ready for review

Axel Polleres: Hopefully ready for review ←

14:23:03 <chimezie> Paul: I think we are ready for review

Paula Gearon: I think we are ready for review ←

14:23:32 <AndyS> pgearon, axel - as I'm away so can't talk to paul, you two could link up after call.

Andy Seaborne: pgearon, axel - as I'm away so can't talk to paul, you two could link up after call. ←

14:23:56 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim? ←

14:23:56 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres. ←

14:24:04 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim

Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←

14:24:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara ←

14:24:10 <cbuilara> yes, ok

Carlos Buil Aranda: yes, ok ←

14:24:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Carlos to review update

ACTION: Carlos to review update ←

14:24:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-643 - Review update [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-643 - Review update [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:24:24 <cbuilara> deadline? in a week?

Carlos Buil Aranda: deadline? in a week? ←

14:24:49 <cbuilara> ok

Carlos Buil Aranda: ok ←

14:24:57 <cbuilara> I will try

Carlos Buil Aranda: I will try ←

14:24:59 <Olivier> I can do it also

Olivier Corby: I can do it also ←

14:25:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: olivier to review update

ACTION: olivier to review update ←

14:25:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-644 - Review update [on Olivier Corby - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-644 - Review update [on Olivier Corby - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:26:50 <chimezie> Greg: As a result of DBooth comment, I think there is a change to SD related to dereferences URL, will email group in next couple of day - not big issue, but might require slipping new LC documents

Gregory Williams: As a result of DBooth comment, I think there is a change to SD related to dereferences URL, will email group in next couple of days - not big issue, but might require slipping new LC documents ←

14:27:06 <chimezie> s/couple of day/couple of days

14:27:35 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me ←

14:27:35 <Zakim> Chimezie was not muted, chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie was not muted, chimezie ←

14:27:55 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH ←

14:29:40 <AxelPolleres> MSO-1 is done

Axel Polleres: MSO-1 is done ←

14:30:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review GSP

ACTION: Axel to review GSP ←

14:30:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-645 - Review GSP [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-645 - Review GSP [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:30:09 <Zakim> +??P36

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P36 ←

14:30:21 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P36 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P36 is me ←

14:30:21 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH; got it ←

14:30:37 <chimezie> JL3-1 needs updating WRT removal of reference to REST

JL3-1 needs updating WRT removal of reference to REST ←

14:30:48 <chimezie> after those changes are reviewed

after those changes are reviewed ←

14:31:21 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: entailment

14:31:35 <Arthur> Zakim, +1.512.651.aaee is me

Arthur Keen: Zakim, +1.512.651.aaee is me ←

14:31:35 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arthur; got it ←

14:31:51 <AxelPolleres> there  might be still a comment that requires change...

Axel Polleres: there might be still a comment that requires change... ←

14:32:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any

ACTION: Axel to clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any ←

14:32:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-646 - Clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-646 - Clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. ←

14:32:21 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me ←

14:32:21 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie should now be muted ←

14:32:32 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: federated query

14:32:43 <cbuilara> cabn you hear me?

Carlos Buil Aranda: cabn you hear me? ←

14:32:46 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:32:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, Olivier, MattPerry, cbuilara, Arthur, Chimezie (muted), SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, Olivier, MattPerry, cbuilara, Arthur, Chimezie (muted), SteveH ←

14:32:52 <cbuilara> sorry, I'm having problems with my mic

Carlos Buil Aranda: sorry, I'm having problems with my mic ←

14:33:02 <cbuilara> summary: I updated it

14:33:05 <cbuilara> the PR page

14:33:13 <cbuilara> only one action (520) about tests

14:33:17 <cbuilara> only one comment

14:33:25 <cbuilara> can you repeat pls?

14:33:39 <cbuilara> no need of review since no changes from LC

14:34:05 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: result formats

14:34:13 <chimezie> AndyS:  (Result formats) - JSON and CSV/TSV are okay

14:34:16 <chimezie> ... no changes

14:34:29 <AxelPolleres> no changes for either JSON nor CSV/TSV since LC

14:35:28 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: overview

14:35:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim

14:35:54 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie (muted)

14:35:59 <chimezie> Axel:  full review not neccessary, just reply to email

14:36:06 <chimezie> sure

14:36:17 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to review overview

14:36:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-647 - Review overview [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-06-19].

14:37:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: schedule

14:37:40 <chimezie> Axel: Our charter runs until end of June.

14:38:05 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/sparql-charter

14:38:23 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0229.html

14:38:28 <chimezie> ... Sandro sent email prior to call

14:38:42 <chimezie> Axel: Need to get reviews from other WGs

14:39:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews.

14:39:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-648 - Coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

14:39:33 <chimezie> ... we forgot this for some other documents.  Sandro suggested to do this with next LC round

14:39:46 <chimezie> ... need this prior to PR/CR

14:40:02 <chimezie> Axel: So, we must extend the working group again

14:41:04 <AxelPolleres> what do people think about extending until end of the year latest?

14:41:15 <bglimm> Sorry for just jumping in (I have a parallel meeting and only partly watch IRC). There are no open comments/issues for Ent. Regimes and there have not been any changes since LC, so I am not sure it needs another review

14:41:33 <AxelPolleres> Andy: abent any severe issues, 6months more seem to be right.

14:41:37 <chimezie> I'm available, but just with a *little* reduction in bandwidth over next 6 months

14:42:05 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: would you be willing to continue the WG until end of the year?

14:42:11 <AndyS> +1

14:42:14 <Arthur> +1

14:42:15 <kasei> +1

14:42:15 <bglimm> +1

14:42:16 <MattPerry> +1

14:42:27 <chimezie> +1

14:42:29 <Olivier> +1

14:42:36 <cbuilara> +1

14:42:47 <AxelPolleres> +0.5 (hope to finish the main parts definitly before october, will be very tight for me after that)

14:43:30 <AxelPolleres> looks like consensus that we could proceed until end of the year for the people present.

14:43:36 <chimezie> Axel: Will speak to Lee about this

14:43:53 <pgearon> +1

14:43:58 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule

14:43:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-649 - Coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].

14:44:09 <chimezie> Axel: all for today

14:44:34 <chimezie> .. clean up comments, start reviews.  Hope we don't need entire half year even if we extend

14:45:28 <AxelPolleres> adjourned

14:45:45 <AxelPolleres> bye

14:45:45 <MattPerry> bye

14:45:45 <Zakim> -SteveH

14:45:46 <cbuilara> bye

14:45:47 <Zakim> -Chimezie

14:45:49 <Zakim> -Olivier

14:45:50 <Zakim> -AndyS

14:45:51 <Zakim> -cbuilara

14:45:52 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

14:45:54 <Zakim> -Arthur

14:45:57 <Zakim> -MattPerry

14:46:07 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

14:46:10 <Zakim> -kasei

15:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, pgearon, in SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

15:35:02 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, pgearon, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, SteveH, +33.4.92.38.aacc, Olivier, AxelPolleres, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, Chimezie, cbuilara, Arthur