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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 07 February 2012

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-02-07
Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Sandro Hawke, Steve Harris
Regrets
Lee Feigenbaum, Sandro Hawke
Chair
Axel Polleres
Scribe
Alexandre Passant
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-01-31 link
  2. approve test cases http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists01-http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists05 link
  3. approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move?? and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy?? link
Topics
14:59:17 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-sparql-irc

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14:59:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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14:59:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277

14:59:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

14:59:22 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:59:22 <trackbot> Date: 07 February 2012
14:59:36 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting

Andy Seaborne: zakim, start meeting

14:59:36 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start meeting', AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'start meeting', AndyS

14:59:47 <AndyS> zakim, this is 77277

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is 77277

14:59:47 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

15:00:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

15:00:20 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me

15:00:20 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

15:00:32 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15

15:00:35 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P15 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P15 is me

15:00:35 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it

15:00:42 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.92.38.aaaa

15:00:56 <Olivier_> Zakim, aaaa is me

Olivier Corby: Zakim, aaaa is me

15:00:56 <Zakim> +Olivier_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Olivier_; got it

15:01:10 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aabb

15:01:21 <MattPerry> zakim, aabb is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, aabb is me

15:01:21 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it

15:01:41 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:01:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, [IPcaller.a], cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, [IPcaller.a], cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry

15:02:13 <alexpassant> Zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, IPcaller.a is me

15:02:13 <Zakim> +alexpassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alexpassant; got it

15:03:22 <Zakim> + +49.897.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.897.aacc

15:03:34 <Zakim> + +44.020.843.9.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.020.843.9.aadd

15:03:40 <swh_> Zakim, aadd is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, aadd is me

15:03:40 <Zakim> +swh_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +swh_; got it

15:03:41 <AndyS> Alex - I'm you!  Will flip.

Andy Seaborne: Alex - I'm you! Will flip.

15:03:44 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone

15:03:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AxelPolleres

15:03:49 <AndyS> zkiam, IPCaller.a is me

Andy Seaborne: zkiam, IPCaller.a is me

15:03:51 <alexpassant> Zakim, AndyS is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, AndyS is me

15:03:54 <Zakim> +alexpassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alexpassant; got it

15:03:59 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller.a is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller.a is me

15:04:02 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller.a'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller.a'

15:04:04 <swh> voip not working for me today, had to call US

Steve Harris: voip not working for me today, had to call US

15:04:07 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPcaller.a is me

15:04:07 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller.a'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller.a'

15:04:09 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:04:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see alexpassant.a, kasei, alexpassant, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, +49.897.aacc, swh_

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see alexpassant.a, kasei, alexpassant, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, +49.897.aacc, swh_

15:04:20 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aacc is probably me

Axel Polleres: Zakim, aacc is probably me

15:04:20 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres?; got it

15:04:21 <Zakim> -alexpassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -alexpassant

15:04:36 <alexpassant> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:04:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see alexpassant.a, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh_

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see alexpassant.a, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh_

15:04:37 <alexpassant> I'm here

Alexandre Passant: I'm here

15:04:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:04:43 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:04:43 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

15:04:46 <alexpassant> sure

Alexandre Passant: sure

15:04:51 <alexpassant> Zakim: alexpassant.a is me
15:04:57 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Alexpassant

(Scribe set to Alexandre Passant)

15:05:01 <alexpassant> Zakim, alexpassant.a is me

Zakim, alexpassant.a is me

15:05:01 <Zakim> +alexpassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alexpassant; got it

15:05:05 <AxelPolleres> chair: axelPolleres
15:05:22 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-02-07
15:05:41 <swh> Zakim, swh_ is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, swh_ is me

15:05:41 <Zakim> +swh; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +swh; got it

15:06:18 <swh> AxelPolleres, BTW, the UK number on the agenda no longer works

Steve Harris: AxelPolleres, BTW, the UK number on the agenda no longer works

15:06:27 <AxelPolleres> regrets: Lee, sandro
15:06:56 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to mail sandro about loss of UK number

ACTION: axel to mail sandro about loss of UK number

15:06:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-586 - Mail sandro about loss of UK number [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-02-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-586 - Mail sandro about loss of UK number [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-02-14].

15:07:06 <alexpassant> french number seems also down

french number seems also down

15:07:10 <alexpassant> topic: admin

1. admin

15:07:13 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

2. admin

15:07:28 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-01-31

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-01-31

15:07:35 <Olivier_> french phone number does not work

Olivier Corby: french phone number does not work

15:08:21 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-01-31

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-01-31

15:08:23 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: no comments about last minutes

Axel Polleres: no comments about last minutes

15:08:27 <alexpassant> … approving minutes

… approving minutes

15:08:38 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-02-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST

Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-02-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST

15:08:39 <alexpassant> … next meeting in a week

… next meeting in a week

15:08:46 <Olivier_> regrets for next week

Olivier Corby: regrets for next week

15:08:57 <cbuilara> regrets for next week too

Carlos Buil Aranda: regrets for next week too

15:09:26 <AxelPolleres> nicholas or steve to scribe next time

Axel Polleres: nicholas or steve to scribe next time

15:09:28 <alexpassant> … scribe will be SteveH

… scribe will be SteveH

15:09:39 <AxelPolleres> topic: RDF liaison

3. RDF liaison

15:09:44 <alexpassant> … liaison with RDF WG

… liaison with RDF WG

15:09:50 <alexpassant> AndyS: several things to report

Andy Seaborne: several things to report

15:09:57 <alexpassant> … first one is about QUADS

… first one is about QUADS

15:10:02 <alexpassant> … proposed to adopt TRIG to dump RDF stores

… proposed to adopt TRIG to dump RDF stores

15:10:17 <alexpassant> … one issue is that the WG is not decided if QUADS will be used for NG

… one issue is that the WG is not decided if QUADS will be used for NG

15:10:27 <alexpassant> … may lead to 2 architectures for named graphs in W3C

… may lead to 2 architectures for named graphs in W3C

15:11:51 <alexpassant> … no decision yet

… no decision yet

15:12:26 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments

4. comments

15:12:36 <AndyS> I updated the comments: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Andy Seaborne: I updated the comments: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

15:12:37 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: 2 pending comments

Axel Polleres: 2 pending comments

15:12:45 <alexpassant> … one already discussed on the list

… one already discussed on the list

15:12:49 <AxelPolleres> JP-4 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Jan/0009.html

Axel Polleres: JP-4 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Jan/0009.html

15:12:49 <AndyS> 7 LC comments

Andy Seaborne: 7 LC comments

15:12:52 <alexpassant> … JP-4

… JP-4

15:13:02 <alexpassant> … would like to open discussion about it

… would like to open discussion about it

15:14:27 <alexpassant> AndyS: bglimm discussed issues between properties path and entailment

Andy Seaborne: bglimm discussed issues between properties path and entailment

15:14:33 <alexpassant> … may be marked as optional feature

… may be marked as optional feature

15:14:39 <bglimm> I wrote an email about it just before the teleconf: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0128.html

Birte Glimm: I wrote an email about it just before the teleconf: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0128.html

15:15:04 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: no option to mark something as optional.

Axel Polleres: no option to mark something as optional.

15:15:13 <alexpassant> … can be not normative / informative, not sure there's other alternative

… can be not normative / informative, not sure there's other alternative

15:16:10 <alexpassant> AndyS: clash between styles, more UC-driven versus computational-theory background

Andy Seaborne: clash between styles, more UC-driven versus computational-theory background

15:19:17 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: should probably answer that 1) we value their work to point the issue and give options for optimization 2) tone that down for CR version of their paper

Axel Polleres: should probably answer that 1) we value their work to point the issue and give options for optimization 2) tone that down for CR version of their paper

15:21:39 <alexpassant> … their paper propose an orthogonal way to look at property path

… their paper propose an orthogonal way to look at property path

15:22:39 <AndyS> DISTINCT(:p*)

Andy Seaborne: DISTINCT(:p*)

15:22:48 <AndyS> :q/DISTINCT(:p*)/:r

Andy Seaborne: :q/DISTINCT(:p*)/:r

15:23:03 <AndyS> ?x  :q/DISTINCT(:p*)/:r  ?z .

Andy Seaborne: ?x :q/DISTINCT(:p*)/:r ?z .

15:24:03 <Zakim> + +1.216.368.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.368.aaee

15:24:09 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:24:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, +1.216.368.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, +1.216.368.aaee

15:24:16 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me

15:24:16 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it

15:24:18 <kasei> I agree with AndyS about defaulting to the counting semantics

Gregory Williams: I agree with AndyS about defaulting to the counting semantics

15:24:21 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:24:21 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted

15:25:09 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

15:25:31 <alexpassant> Olivier_: may have a DISTINCT keyword in the path. could help to solve the problem

Olivier Corby: may have a DISTINCT keyword in the path. could help to solve the problem

15:25:45 <alexpassant> … could also build artificial queries w/o path that are very expensive

… could also build artificial queries w/o path that are very expensive

15:26:20 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:26:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, chimezie (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, chimezie (muted)

15:26:23 <alexpassant> I haven't checked the issue in detail

I haven't checked the issue in detail

15:26:40 <swh> FWIW I read the mail, but haven't implemented PPs, so no real opinion

Steve Harris: FWIW I read the mail, but haven't implemented PPs, so no real opinion

15:27:12 <cbuilara> Ihavent checked the email in detail

Carlos Buil Aranda: Ihavent checked the email in detail

15:27:29 <AxelPolleres> Strawpoll...  We keep defaulting to counting paths semantics (+1)

Axel Polleres: Strawpoll... We keep defaulting to counting paths semantics (+1)

15:27:35 <swh> 0

Steve Harris: 0

15:27:36 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

15:27:38 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

15:27:44 <cbuilara> 0

Carlos Buil Aranda: 0

15:27:51 <alexpassant> 0

0

15:27:51 <chimezie> 0 (not very well swapped into issue(s))

Chimezie Ogbuji: 0 (not very well swapped into issue(s))

15:27:55 <bglimm> 0 (not being able to follow the spoken discussion)

Birte Glimm: 0 (not being able to follow the spoken discussion)

15:28:08 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:28:22 <AndyS> Also - issue about another LC cycle.

Andy Seaborne: Also - issue about another LC cycle.

15:28:24 <AxelPolleres> 0

Axel Polleres: 0

15:28:49 <Olivier_> 0 need to think about it more

Olivier Corby: 0 need to think about it more

15:29:05 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: no one strongly to change the default behavior

Axel Polleres: no one strongly to change the default behavior

15:29:24 <kasei> are we discussing adding the DISTINCT(pp) thing in 1.1? or just leaving it open for the future?

Gregory Williams: are we discussing adding the DISTINCT(pp) thing in 1.1? or just leaving it open for the future?

15:29:36 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Another LC cycle is anyways necessary if we change the grammar

Andy Seaborne: Another LC cycle is anyways necessary if we change the grammar [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:30:11 <chimezie> i would like to be swapped in, just didn't find the time to read the email(s) in detail - so inclined to concur with WG

Chimezie Ogbuji: i would like to be swapped in, just didn't find the time to read the email(s) in detail - so inclined to concur with WG

15:31:23 <AxelPolleres> probably discuss with team contacts whether this is still possible in our current schedule

Axel Polleres: probably discuss with team contacts whether this is still possible in our current schedule

15:34:49 <AxelPolleres> Option 1... keep everything as it is in the grammar, and explain which DISTINCT path subqueries can be optimized, Option 2 ... add DISTINCT  around paths.

Axel Polleres: Option 1... keep everything as it is in the grammar, and explain which DISTINCT path subqueries can be optimized, Option 2 ... add DISTINCT around paths.

15:35:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to summarize option 1 and 2 in email

ACTION: Axel to summarize option 1 and 2 in email

15:35:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-587 - Summarize option 1 and 2 in email [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-02-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-587 - Summarize option 1 and 2 in email [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-02-14].

15:36:04 <AxelPolleres> we strive for a decision next week.

Axel Polleres: we strive for a decision next week.

15:37:06 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: next comment MO-1

Axel Polleres: next comment MO-1

15:37:07 <AxelPolleres> next one: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Jan/0010.html

Axel Polleres: next one: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Jan/0010.html

15:37:11 <kasei> Andy suggested new wording: "sd:availableGraphs Relates an instance of sd:Service to a description of the __usable__ graphs where the service limits the scope of the construction of a dataset either via the SPARQL Protocol, with FROM/FROM NAMED clauses in a query, or with USING/USING NAMED in an update request."

Gregory Williams: Andy suggested new wording: "sd:availableGraphs Relates an instance of sd:Service to a description of the __usable__ graphs where the service limits the scope of the construction of a dataset either via the SPARQL Protocol, with FROM/FROM NAMED clauses in a query, or with USING/USING NAMED in an update request."

15:38:42 <kasei> ("__usable__" wording is mine)

Gregory Williams: ("__usable__" wording is mine)

15:38:45 <AndyS> I'm +1 to reply whether SD doc changes and leave the decision to the editor.

Andy Seaborne: I'm +1 to reply whether SD doc changes and leave the decision to the editor.

15:38:54 <AndyS> I'm +1 to reply whether SD doc changes or not and leave the decision to the editor.

Andy Seaborne: I'm +1 to reply whether SD doc changes or not and leave the decision to the editor.

15:38:57 <AxelPolleres> "allowed?"

Axel Polleres: "allowed?"

15:39:26 <alexpassant> kasei: will make change about wording if everyone is ok

Gregory Williams: will make change about wording if everyone is ok

15:39:39 <kasei> current wording: "Relates an instance of <a href="#sd-Service"><code>sd:Service</code></a> to a description of the graphs that may be used in the construction of a dataset either via the SPARQL Protocol, with FROM/FROM NAMED clauses in a query, or with USING/USING NAMED in an update request."

Gregory Williams: current wording: "Relates an instance of <a href="#sd-Service"><code>sd:Service</code></a> to a description of the graphs that may be used in the construction of a dataset either via the SPARQL Protocol, with FROM/FROM NAMED clauses in a query, or with USING/USING NAMED in an update request."

15:42:21 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: kasei to draft a reply to MO-1 with better wording to the list

ACTION: kasei to draft a reply to MO-1 with better wording to the list

15:42:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-588 - Draft a reply to MO-1 with better wording to the list [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-02-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-588 - Draft a reply to MO-1 with better wording to the list [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-02-14].

15:42:58 <AxelPolleres> topic: test cases/implementations

5. test cases/implementations

15:43:00 <AndyS> q+ to note action 579

Andy Seaborne: q+ to note ACTION-579

15:43:02 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/

15:45:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to ping lee on ACTION-579 and in case draft a respective mail to comments/dev lists

ACTION: Andy to ping lee on ACTION-579 and in case draft a respective mail to comments/dev lists

15:45:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-589 - Ping lee on ACTION-579 and in case draft a respective mail to comments/dev lists [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-02-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-589 - Ping lee on ACTION-579 and in case draft a respective mail to comments/dev lists [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-02-14].

15:45:15 <AndyS> ack me

Andy Seaborne: ack me

15:45:15 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to note action 579

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to note ACTION-579

15:46:58 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve test cases http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists01-http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists05

PROPOSED: approve test cases http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists01-http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists05

15:47:07 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

15:47:08 <AxelPolleres> +!

Axel Polleres: +!

15:47:12 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:47:13 <Olivier_> +1

Olivier Corby: +1

15:47:15 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:47:17 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

15:47:25 <chimezie> +1

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1

15:47:31 <swh> +

Steve Harris: +

15:47:33 <swh> +1

Steve Harris: +1

15:47:44 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve test cases http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists01-http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists05

RESOLVED: approve test cases http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists01-http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#exists05

15:48:02 <alexpassant> AxelPolleres: next topic : update TC

Axel Polleres: next topic : update TC

15:48:10 <alexpassant> … discussion on COPY and MOVE

… discussion on COPY and MOVE

15:49:39 <alexpassant> … can approve all TC except COPY-5 and MOVE-5

… can approve all TC except COPY-5 and MOVE-5

15:50:14 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move05 and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy05

PROPOSED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move05 and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy05

15:50:22 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

15:50:26 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

15:52:00 <swh> I'm not confident about MOVE COPY at the moment

Steve Harris: I'm not confident about MOVE COPY at the moment

15:52:38 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move?? and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy??

PROPOSED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move?? and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy??

15:52:48 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:53:03 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

15:53:04 <Olivier_> +1

Olivier Corby: +1

15:53:06 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

15:53:10 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:53:14 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:53:35 <alexpassant> +1

+1

15:53:36 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move?? and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy??

RESOLVED: approve non-classified update use cases, except http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#move?? and http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#copy??

15:53:58 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:53:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, chimezie (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see alexpassant, kasei, cbuilara, Olivier_, MattPerry, AxelPolleres?, swh, AndyS, chimezie (muted)

15:54:34 <AxelPolleres> can we approve json-res/manifest#jsonres01

Axel Polleres: can we approve json-res/manifest#jsonres01

15:55:09 <kasei> I have no idea why we didn't approve it before, but that certainly seems like it would be relevant...

Gregory Williams: I have no idea why we didn't approve it before, but that certainly seems like it would be relevant...

15:56:58 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-16#resolution_2

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-16#resolution_2

16:00:18 <AndyS> kasei, the triple for non-classified wasn't removed.  Will fix.

Andy Seaborne: kasei, the triple for non-classified wasn't removed. Will fix.

16:00:24 <AndyS> kasei: the triple for non-classified wasn't removed.  Will fix.

Gregory Williams: the triple for non-classified wasn't removed. Will fix. [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ]

16:01:43 <Zakim> -swh

Zakim IRC Bot: -swh

16:01:58 <MattPerry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye

16:01:58 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie

16:02:02 <AndyS> ADJOURNED

Andy Seaborne: ADJOURNED

16:02:06 <Zakim> -cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara

16:02:07 <Zakim> -Olivier_

Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier_

16:02:08 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

16:02:09 <Zakim> -alexpassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -alexpassant

16:02:13 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

16:02:16 <AxelPolleres> we'll discuss the copy  and move test cases next week and I'll drop paul a mail where he is regarding the update rewording.

Axel Polleres: we'll discuss the copy and move test cases next week and I'll drop paul a mail where he is regarding the update rewording.

16:02:17 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

16:02:40 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres

16:02:41 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

16:02:41 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, cbuilara, +33.4.92.38.aaaa, Olivier_, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, alexpassant, +49.897.aacc, +44.020.843.9.aadd, AxelPolleres, AndyS, swh, chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were kasei, cbuilara, +33.4.92.38.aaaa, Olivier_, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, alexpassant, +49.897.aacc, +44.020.843.9.aadd, AxelPolleres, AndyS, swh, chimezie

16:02:44 <kasei> I'll update the test manifests with the new approval status.

Gregory Williams: I'll update the test manifests with the new approval status.

16:02:48 <alexpassant> RRSAgent: make minutes

RRSAgent IRC Bot: make minutes

16:02:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-sparql-minutes.html alexpassant

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-sparql-minutes.html alexpassant

18:08:55 <kasei> are there minutes from today's meeting?

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Gregory Williams: are there minutes from today's meeting?



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