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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 09 February 2010

Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Chimezie Ogbuji, David Charboneau, Gregory Williams, Ivan Herman, John Clark, Lee Feigenbaum, Luke Wilson-Mawer, Matthew Perry, Paula Gearon, Prateek Jain, Sandro Hawke, Souripriya Das, Steve Harris
Regrets
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
John Clark, Prateek Jain
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html link
  2. Close ISSUE-3 with the consensus that subqueries do not require a special "subquery keyword" but need to be put in mandatory curly braces link
  3. Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery and SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into further subSELECTs) link
  4. Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1. link
  5. Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing a variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the WHERE pattern of that SELECT. link
Topics
14:55:55 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/09-sparql-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/09-sparql-irc

14:58:33 <kasei> Zakim?

Gregory Williams: Zakim?

14:58:43 <bglimm> What's wrong with Zakim?

Birte Glimm: What's wrong with Zakim?

14:58:53 <SteveH_> Zakim needs to be invited

Steve Harris: Zakim needs to be invited

14:58:56 <SteveH_> I don't remember how

Steve Harris: I don't remember how

14:59:07 <kasei> Zakim is in this channel already

Gregory Williams: Zakim is in this channel already

14:59:13 <SteveH_> ah, ok

Steve Harris: ah, ok

14:59:17 <SteveH_> Zakim, this is DAWG

Steve Harris: Zakim, this is DAWG

14:59:17 <Zakim> sorry, SteveH_, I do not see a conference named 'DAWG' in progress or scheduled at this time

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, SteveH_, I do not see a conference named 'DAWG' in progress or scheduled at this time

14:59:17 <AxelPolleres> Zaakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zaakim, who is on the phone?

14:59:23 <SteveH_> Zakim, this is SPARQL

Steve Harris: Zakim, this is SPARQL

14:59:23 <Zakim> ok, SteveH_; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, SteveH_; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

14:59:25 <Zakim> +dcharbon2

Zakim IRC Bot: +dcharbon2

14:59:33 <kasei> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Gregory Williams: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:59:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, bglimm, dcharbon2

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei, bglimm, dcharbon2

14:59:34 <AxelPolleres> seems, Zakim is fine

Axel Polleres: seems, Zakim is fine

14:59:40 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting

Axel Polleres: trackbot, start meeting

14:59:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

14:59:43 <kasei> good then. thanks steve.

Gregory Williams: good then. thanks steve.

14:59:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277

14:59:45 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:59:45 <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2010
14:59:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

14:59:59 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

14:59:59 <Zakim> sorry, kasei, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, kasei, I don't know what conference this is

15:00:04 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-02-09

Axel Polleres: AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-02-09

15:00:33 <kasei> Zakim, this is SPARQL

Gregory Williams: Zakim, this is SPARQL

15:00:33 <Zakim> ok, kasei; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, kasei; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

15:00:37 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

15:00:39 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

15:00:43 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

15:00:44 <sandro> zakim, what is the code?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, what is the code?

15:00:51 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

15:00:57 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), sandro

15:01:03 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres

15:01:07 <ivanH> zakim, dial ivanH-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivanH-voip

15:01:17 <Zakim> ok, ivanH; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivanH; the call is being made

15:01:20 <dcharbon2> zakim, mute me

David Charboneau: zakim, mute me

15:01:25 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

15:01:31 <Zakim> -??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P19

15:01:43 <Zakim> dcharbon2 should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: dcharbon2 should now be muted

15:01:45 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22

15:01:47 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P22 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P22 is me

15:01:55 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

15:02:05 <Zakim> +??P28

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28

15:02:05 <SteveH_> Zakim, ??P24 is [Garlik]

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P24 is [Garlik]

15:02:09 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it

15:02:09 <MattPerry> zakim, ??p22 is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, ??p22 is me

15:02:11 <Zakim> +Souri

Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri

15:02:15 <Zakim> + +1.216.445.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.445.aaaa

15:02:15 <SteveH_> Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

Steve Harris: Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

15:02:20 <john-l> Zakim, aaaa is me.

John Clark: Zakim, aaaa is me.

15:02:22 <AndyS> zakim, hand up

Andy Seaborne: zakim, hand up

15:02:25 <Zakim> +??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32

15:02:27 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

15:02:27 <LukeWM> #41 Axel

Luke Wilson-Mawer: #41 Axel

15:02:29 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +[Garlik]; got it

15:02:33 <Zakim> I already had ??P22 as AlexPassant, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P22 as AlexPassant, MattPerry

15:02:34 <bglimm> Zakim, hand up

Birte Glimm: Zakim, hand up

15:02:35 <Zakim> +SteveH_, LukeWM; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH_, LukeWM; got it

15:02:37 <Zakim> +john-l; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +john-l; got it

15:02:43 <Zakim> I see AndyS on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see AndyS on the speaker queue

15:02:51 <AndyS> ack me

Andy Seaborne: ack me

15:02:54 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

15:03:00 <Zakim> I see AndyS, bglimm on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see AndyS, bglimm on the speaker queue

15:03:07 <AxelPolleres> ack bglimm

Axel Polleres: ack bglimm

15:03:14 <AxelPolleres> ack AndyS

Axel Polleres: ack AndyS

15:03:25 <ivanH> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

15:03:30 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the �phone

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the �phone

15:03:32 <bglimm> ack me

Birte Glimm: ack me

15:03:40 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:03:45 <AlexPassant> ack me

Alexandre Passant: ack me

15:03:49 <AndyS> zakim, ??P32 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P32 is me

15:03:50 <Zakim> +??P37

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P37

15:03:52 <MattPerry> Zakim, ??P28 is me

Matthew Perry: Zakim, ??P28 is me

15:03:53 <AxelPolleres> ack bglimm

Axel Polleres: ack bglimm

15:03:57 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ack me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ack me

15:04:14 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

15:04:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the �phone', AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the �phone', AxelPolleres

15:04:18 <LukeWM> zakim, I'm confused, can you just assign all the codes to the right people please

Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, I'm confused, can you just assign all the codes to the right people please

15:04:31 <Souri> zakim, whio's on the phone?

Souripriya Das: zakim, whio's on the phone?

15:04:33 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:04:36 <AxelPolleres> ack AlexPassant

Axel Polleres: ack AlexPassant

15:04:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm, dcharbon2 (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan (muted), AlexPassant, [Garlik], ??P28, Souri, john-l, ??P32, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm, dcharbon2 (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan (muted), AlexPassant, [Garlik], ??P28, Souri, john-l, ??P32, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37

15:04:41 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

15:04:47 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

15:04:53 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it

15:05:04 <Zakim> I see [Garlik] on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see [Garlik] on the speaker queue

15:05:04 <AxelPolleres> Prateek?

Axel Polleres: Prateek?

15:05:13 <Zakim> I don't understand you, LukeWM

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand you, LukeWM

15:05:14 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Souri.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Souri.

15:05:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm, dcharbon2 (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan (muted), AlexPassant, [Garlik], MattPerry, Souri, john-l, AndyS, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm, dcharbon2 (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan (muted), AlexPassant, [Garlik], MattPerry, Souri, john-l, AndyS, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37

15:05:19 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

15:05:32 <SteveH_> Zakim, ack [Garlik]

Steve Harris: Zakim, ack [Garlik]

15:05:34 <AxelPolleres> scribe: John Clark

(Scribe set to John Clark)

15:05:44 <john-l> scribenick: john-l
15:06:22 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue

15:06:27 <chimezie> Zakim, passcode?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, passcode?

15:06:29 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Sorry about last week; things happen.  But we have drafts published, and are already receiving feedback.

Axel Polleres: Sorry about last week; things happen. But we have drafts published, and are already receiving feedback.

15:06:34 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie

15:06:44 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-01-26

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-01-26

15:06:52 <AndyS> For next week: Regrets: AndyS

Andy Seaborne: For next week: Regrets: AndyS

15:07:13 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:07:16 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

15:07:24 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie_Ogbuji

15:07:34 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at  http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

15:07:41 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

15:07:55 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at  http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-sparql-minutes.html

15:08:16 <ivanH> yes

Ivan Herman: yes

15:08:20 <ivanH> (sorry, muted)

Ivan Herman: (sorry, muted)

15:09:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to do minutes from last time in usual format, if possible

ACTION: Axel to do minutes from last time in usual format, if possible

15:09:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Do minutes from last time in usual format, if possible [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-02-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-185 - Do minutes from last time in usual format, if possible [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-02-16].

15:09:21 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Several comments have come in on the new draft.

Axel Polleres: Several comments have come in on the new draft.

15:09:41 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments

1. comments

15:09:42 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

15:09:59 <AxelPolleres> RN-1

Axel Polleres: RN-1

15:10:01 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html

Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html

15:10:08 <Zakim> +cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +cory

15:10:19 <Prateek> Zakim, Cory is Prateek

Prateek Jain: Zakim, Cory is Prateek

15:10:19 <Zakim> +Prateek; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Prateek; got it

15:10:27 <john-l> ...: Noone is assigned to comment, but a reply happened anyway.

...: Noone is assigned to comment, but a reply happened anyway.

15:10:40 <Prateek> Sorry I am latte. I am scribe. But it is very bad weather conditions here.

Prateek Jain: Sorry I am latte. I am scribe. But it is very bad weather conditions here.

15:10:43 <Prateek> late*

Prateek Jain: late*

15:10:44 <kasei> for comments like the brand new one from Rob Vesse that mix comments on multiple docs, should we split the assignment between the appropriate people?

Gregory Williams: for comments like the brand new one from Rob Vesse that mix comments on multiple docs, should we split the assignment between the appropriate people?

15:11:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Paul to follow up on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html and document on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

ACTION: Paul to follow up on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html and document on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

15:11:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Follow up on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html and document on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-02-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-186 - Follow up on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Jan/0000.html and document on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-02-16].

15:11:14 <Prateek> Scribe: Prateek

(Scribe set to Prateek Jain)

15:11:36 <john-l> ???: I have been following up, so there isn't as much urgency.

Paula Gearon: I have been following up, so there isn't as much urgency. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:12:11 <john-l> s/???/pgearon/
15:12:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: steve to draft response on ED-1

ACTION: steve to draft response on ED-1

15:12:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Draft response on ED-1 [on Steve Harris - due 2010-02-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-187 - Draft response on ED-1 [on Steve Harris - due 2010-02-16].

15:13:04 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Please treat reactions to these comments as open action items, and update them accordingly.

Axel Polleres: Please treat reactions to these comments as open action items, and update them accordingly. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:13:10 <kasei> Axel, question about comment assignments (^^above^^)

Gregory Williams: Axel, question about comment assignments (^^above^^)

15:13:18 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

15:13:18 <bglimm> I responded, will update the wiki

Birte Glimm: I responded, will update the wiki

15:13:21 <kasei> (sorry, muted)

Gregory Williams: (sorry, muted)

15:13:25 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me

15:13:25 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should no longer be muted

15:13:53 <chimezie> i need to update the wiki re: my response as well

Chimezie Ogbuji: i need to update the wiki re: my response as well

15:13:54 <john-l> kasei: Should we split up some more recent comments that discuss several documents?

Gregory Williams: Should we split up some more recent comments that discuss several documents? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:14:19 <john-l> ...: In particular, a recent email discusses aggregates and other topics in one email.

John Clark: ...: In particular, a recent email discusses aggregates and other topics in one email.

15:15:09 <john-l> ...: I only focused on the service description commentary, but I can help to coordinate feedback.

John Clark: ...: I only focused on the service description commentary, but I can help to coordinate feedback.

15:15:44 <ivanH> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:15:46 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Greg to coordinate response to RV-2 (and record it on the comments page)

ACTION: Greg to coordinate response to RV-2 (and record it on the comments page)

15:15:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Coordinate response to RV-2 (and record it on the comments page) [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-02-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-188 - Coordinate response to RV-2 (and record it on the comments page) [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-02-16].

15:16:11 <ivanH> zakim, unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me

15:16:11 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should no longer be muted

15:16:21 <john-l> AxelPolleres: New PP document should address Jeremy's comment.

Axel Polleres: New PP document should address Jeremy's comment. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:16:23 <ivanH> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:17:39 <john-l> topic: Liasons

2. Liasons

15:18:03 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

15:18:03 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

15:18:05 <AxelPolleres> sandro: now news from RIF

Sandro Hawke: now news from RIF [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:18:19 <AxelPolleres> not news from other groups either

Axel Polleres: not news from other groups either

15:18:20 <john-l> No news from the various Liasons.

John Clark: No news from the various Liasons.

15:18:32 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

15:18:32 <Zakim> bglimm was not muted, bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm was not muted, bglimm

15:18:37 <john-l> topic: FTF 3

3. FTF 3

15:18:38 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/F2F3

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/F2F3

15:18:50 <dcharbon2> Zakim, unmute me

David Charboneau: Zakim, unmute me

15:18:50 <Zakim> dcharbon2 should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: dcharbon2 should no longer be muted

15:19:12 <john-l> bglimm: Planning information up on the Wiki.

Birte Glimm: Planning information up on the Wiki. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:19:27 <john-l> AxelPolleres: All, please start updating that document with your plans where to attend.

Axel Polleres: All, please start updating that document with your plans where to attend. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:20:09 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

15:20:09 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

15:20:12 <AxelPolleres> topic: Query Issues

4. Query Issues

15:20:18 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Let's start discussing issues wrt query.

Axel Polleres: Let's start discussing issues wrt query. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:20:52 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/3

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/3

15:20:52 <john-l> AxelPolleres: I'd like to focus on issues 3, 4, 12, and 36.

Axel Polleres: I'd like to focus on issues 3, 4, 12, and 36. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:21:03 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Issue 3 is about subquery syntax.

Axel Polleres: ISSUE-3 is about subquery syntax. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:21:47 <john-l> ...: It seems there isn't a lot of dissention around this issue, so I suggest that we close it.

John Clark: ...: It seems there isn't a lot of dissention around this issue, so I suggest that we close it.

15:21:49 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-3 with the consensus that subqueries do not require a special "subquery keyword" but need to be put in mandatory curly braces

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-3 with the consensus that subqueries do not require a special "subquery keyword" but need to be put in mandatory curly braces

15:22:00 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:22:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm (muted), dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, Ivan, AlexPassant, [Garlik], MattPerry, Souri, john-l, AndyS, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37, Chimezie_Ogbuji

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei (muted), bglimm (muted), dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, Ivan, AlexPassant, [Garlik], MattPerry, Souri, john-l, AndyS, Sandro, pgearon, ??P37, Chimezie_Ogbuji

15:22:04 <Zakim> ... (muted), Prateek

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), Prateek

15:22:04 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH_, LukeWM

15:22:05 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

15:22:11 <ivanH> ack ivanH

Ivan Herman: ack ivanH

15:22:24 <SteveH_> seconded

Steve Harris: seconded

15:22:25 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:22:27 <AxelPolleres> ack ivanH

Axel Polleres: ack ivanH

15:22:28 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:22:28 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:22:30 <pgearon> +1

Paula Gearon: +1

15:22:30 <dcharbon2> +1

David Charboneau: +1

15:22:44 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-3 with the consensus that subqueries do not require a special "subquery keyword" but need to be put in mandatory curly braces

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-3 with the consensus that subqueries do not require a special "subquery keyword" but need to be put in mandatory curly braces

15:22:50 <AxelPolleres> close ISSUE-3

Axel Polleres: close ISSUE-3

15:22:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-3 Subquery syntax (e.g. mandatory curly braces) closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-3 Subquery syntax (e.g. mandatory curly braces) closed

15:23:27 <john-l> ...: Issue 4: <http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/4>

John Clark: ...: ISSUE-4: <http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/4>

15:23:29 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery.

15:23:41 <Souri> +1

Souripriya Das: +1

15:23:42 <SteveH_> seconded

Steve Harris: seconded

15:23:44 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:23:45 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:23:47 <AndyS> and SELECT * means al variables visible at top of query?

Andy Seaborne: and SELECT * means al variables visible at top of query?

15:23:48 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:23:54 <dcharbon2> +1

David Charboneau: +1

15:25:58 <john-l> Discussion clarifying SELECT *, agreement that it only "descends one level".

John Clark: Discussion clarifying SELECT *, agreement that it only "descends one level".

15:26:17 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Do we need to amend the proposed resolution?

Axel Polleres: Do we need to amend the proposed resolution? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:26:18 <AndyS> SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into subSELECT)

Andy Seaborne: SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into subSELECT)

15:26:25 <SteveH_> +1

Steve Harris: +1

15:26:28 <bglimm> That's how I assumed it would be anyway

Birte Glimm: That's how I assumed it would be anyway

15:26:46 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED : Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery and SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into further  subSELECTs)

Axel Polleres: PROPOSED : Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery and SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into further subSELECTs)

15:26:55 <dcharbon2> +1

David Charboneau: +1

15:26:55 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:26:58 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:27:04 <pgearon> +1

Paula Gearon: +1

15:27:10 <AndyS> Yes - so did I but the proposal talks about projected variables and we need to eb clear SELECT * works in the subSELECT as well

Andy Seaborne: Yes - so did I but the proposal talks about projected variables and we need to eb clear SELECT * works in the subSELECT as well

15:27:10 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery and SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into further  subSELECTs)

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-4 with the consensus that only projected variables have scope outside a subquery and SELECT * calculates one level of variables (does not decend into further subSELECTs)

15:27:19 <Souri> +1 (decend => descend)

Souripriya Das: +1 (decend => descend)

15:28:15 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Next easy issue seems to be issue 12.

Axel Polleres: Next easy issue seems to be ISSUE-12. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:28:23 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/12

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/12

15:28:50 <ivanH> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:28:51 <SteveH_> actually current draft is ambiguious

Steve Harris: actually current draft is ambiguious

15:29:10 <AndyS> quoll?

Andy Seaborne: quoll?

15:29:47 <john-l> ivanH: The recent comment might change aggregation and make this issue moot.

Ivan Herman: The recent comment might change aggregation and make this issue moot. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:30:10 <john-l> ivanH: We shouldn't close it until we've addressed that comment.

Ivan Herman: We shouldn't close it until we've addressed that comment. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:30:22 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

15:30:27 <john-l> SteveH_: I think the two things are independent.

Steve Harris: I think the two things are independent. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:30:28 <ivanH> ack ivanH

Ivan Herman: ack ivanH

15:30:53 <kasei> yes

Gregory Williams: yes

15:31:40 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Could we close this with the understanding that we go forward with the syntax in the WD?

Axel Polleres: Could we close this with the understanding that we go forward with the syntax in the WD? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:32:01 <SteveH_> not in the WD, that's FILTER as it stands

Steve Harris: not in the WD, that's FILTER as it stands

15:32:06 <LukeWM> hears loud typing

Luke Wilson-Mawer: hears loud typing

15:32:10 <kasei> having trouble hearing you over the typing

Gregory Williams: having trouble hearing you over the typing

15:32:33 <AndyS> AndyS: Two parts: presense and synatx.  Can we agree the need?

Andy Seaborne: Two parts: presense and synatx. Can we agree the need? [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ]

15:32:52 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

15:32:57 <SteveH_> no

Steve Harris: no

15:33:32 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

15:34:15 <john-l> AndyS: The draft is ambiguous in its wording.

Steve Harris: The draft is ambiguous in its wording. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:34:50 <AndyS> s/AndyS/SteveH/
15:35:02 <kasei> maybe close this issue and open a new one regarding the syntax of this functionality?

Gregory Williams: maybe close this issue and open a new one regarding the syntax of this functionality?

15:36:28 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Can we agree that we need this functionality, but are still undecided about the syntax?

Axel Polleres: Can we agree that we need this functionality, but are still undecided about the syntax? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:37:01 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: Shall we go along with HAVING as the keyword for  filtering based on aggregate values

STRAWPOLL: Shall we go along with HAVING as the keyword for filtering based on aggregate values

15:37:05 <SteveH_> +1

Steve Harris: +1

15:37:07 <kasei> i still prefer 'FILTER' over 'HAVING', but my resolve is shrinking as time goes on.

Gregory Williams: i still prefer 'FILTER' over 'HAVING', but my resolve is shrinking as time goes on.

15:37:11 <chimezie> +1

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1

15:37:14 <Souri> +1

Souripriya Das: +1

15:37:15 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

15:37:22 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:37:25 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me

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15:37:28 <AlexPassant> +1

Alexandre Passant: +1

15:37:30 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:38:22 <john-l> kasei: I simply prefer using the 'FILTER' term over 'HAVING'.

Gregory Williams: I simply prefer using the 'FILTER' term over 'HAVING'. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:38:38 <john-l> ...: ... but with the same syntax as others have presented.

John Clark: ...: ... but with the same syntax as others have presented.

15:39:04 <john-l> AxelPolleres: But you might need to apply different conditions to the different terms.

Axel Polleres: But you might need to apply different conditions to the different terms. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:39:25 <Souri> To me HAVING seems a much clearer way than having to say use FILTER with such and such restrictions

Souripriya Das: To me HAVING seems a much clearer way than having to say use FILTER with such and such restrictions

15:39:49 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Do we still have resistance to just using 'HAVING'?

Axel Polleres: Do we still have resistance to just using 'HAVING'? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:39:53 <kasei> 0

Gregory Williams: 0

15:40:03 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

15:40:03 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

15:40:04 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

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15:40:26 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:40:29 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:40:32 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

15:40:36 <pgearon> +1

Paula Gearon: +1

15:40:53 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-12 by consensus of the need for the functionality provided by the HAVING clause as sketched in the latest WD of Query 1.1.

15:41:21 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/36

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/36

15:41:21 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Next up, issue 36.

Axel Polleres: Next up, ISSUE-36. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:42:18 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing projected with the same name as an existing variable (throwing a static error).

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing projected with the same name as an existing variable (throwing a static error).

15:42:48 <AndyS> "variable for select expression"

Andy Seaborne: "variable for select expression"

15:43:38 <AndyS>  Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the pattern of the SELECT.

Andy Seaborne: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the pattern of the SELECT.

15:44:45 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

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15:44:54 <chimezie> shouldn't that be a noop?

Chimezie Ogbuji: shouldn't that be a noop?

15:46:09 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing a variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the WHERE pattern of that SELECT.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing a variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the WHERE pattern of that SELECT.

15:46:10 <AndyS> Sorry - getting me words mixed up

Andy Seaborne: Sorry - getting me words mixed up

15:47:01 <john-l> AxelPolleres: We allow left-to-right chaining for variables in the WHERE clause, correct?

Axel Polleres: We allow left-to-right chaining for variables in the WHERE clause, correct? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:47:22 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

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15:47:32 <AxelPolleres> +1

Axel Polleres: +1

15:47:38 <SteveH_> +1

Steve Harris: +1

15:47:41 <kasei> so this wouldn't say anything abotu this, right? (1 as ?x) (1 as ?x)

Gregory Williams: so this wouldn't say anything abotu this, right? (1 as ?x) (1 as ?x)

15:47:46 <dcharbon2> +1

David Charboneau: +1

15:48:08 <john-l> AxelPolleres: That's covered in the current spec.

Axel Polleres: That's covered in the current spec. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:48:11 <kasei> right, yeah.

Gregory Williams: right, yeah.

15:48:24 <kasei> I'm +1 on either way, but wanted to clarify.

Gregory Williams: I'm +1 on either way, but wanted to clarify.

15:48:28 <SteveH_> yeah, kasei's case is covered

Steve Harris: yeah, kasei's case is covered

15:48:36 <kasei> good. thanks, AndyS.

Gregory Williams: good. thanks, AndyS.

15:48:37 <john-l> AxelPolleres: I think that's handled by binding override.

Axel Polleres: I think that's handled by binding override. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:48:43 <john-l> AndyS: No, that's an error in the current doc.

Andy Seaborne: No, that's an error in the current doc. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:49:29 <kasei> if it's already covered by the doc, I think the proposal as worded is good.

Gregory Williams: if it's already covered by the doc, I think the proposal as worded is good.

15:50:10 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

15:50:18 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing a variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the WHERE pattern of that SELECT.

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-36 by disallowing a variable used with AS for select expression if it already occurs in the WHERE pattern of that SELECT.

15:50:48 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0222.html

Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0222.html

15:51:01 <john-l> AxelPolleres: We can work off this summary list for further issues.

Axel Polleres: We can work off this summary list for further issues. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:51:27 <AndyS> This is only query issues.  I skipped non-query issues.

Andy Seaborne: This is only query issues. I skipped non-query issues.

15:52:20 <john-l> AxelPolleres: Issue 8 is also marked as done, so let's address that.

Axel Polleres: ISSUE-8 is also marked as done, so let's address that. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:52:22 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/8

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/8

15:52:38 <john-l> AxelPolleres: There are some comments on that on the ML.

Axel Polleres: There are some comments on that on the ML. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:53:00 <AndyS> q+ to say I think my summary is incomplete

Andy Seaborne: q+ to say I think my summary is incomplete

15:53:49 <john-l> AxelPolleres: You might use FROM clauses in subqueries to do graph merging.

Axel Polleres: You might use FROM clauses in subqueries to do graph merging. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:53:57 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

15:54:04 <john-l> AxelPolleres: It might be ok to restrict it for subselects, though.

Axel Polleres: It might be ok to restrict it for subselects, though. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:54:17 <AxelPolleres> ack AndyS

Axel Polleres: ack AndyS

15:54:17 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to say I think my summary is incomplete

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to say I think my summary is incomplete

15:54:36 <john-l> AndyS: LeeF was also indicating that this would be relevant for update.

Andy Seaborne: LeeF was also indicating that this would be relevant for update. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:54:46 <AxelPolleres> related to Dataset descriptions in update?

Axel Polleres: related to Dataset descriptions in update?

15:54:52 <john-l> SteveH_: We're only talking about queries, though, so this might not be relevant.

Steve Harris: We're only talking about queries, though, so this might not be relevant. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:55:52 <john-l> AxelPolleres: As a basis, the default dataset is inherited.

Axel Polleres: As a basis, the default dataset is inherited. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:56:20 <john-l> ...: Is it orthogonal to consider whether FROM clauses are allowed in subqueries?

John Clark: ...: Is it orthogonal to consider whether FROM clauses are allowed in subqueries?

15:56:23 <AxelPolleres> currently, no FROM/FROM NAME allowed in Query 1.1

Axel Polleres: currently, no FROM/FROM NAME allowed in Query 1.1

15:56:31 <SteveH_> ...subqueries

Steve Harris: ...subqueries

15:57:04 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0222.html

Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0222.html

15:57:18 <john-l> AxelPolleres: We are not able to close issue 8 at this time.

Axel Polleres: We are not able to close ISSUE-8 at this time. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:57:23 <john-l> ...: Let's move to issue 15.

John Clark: ...: Let's move to ISSUE-15.

15:57:42 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/15

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/15

15:58:18 <john-l> AxelPolleres: No special form for aggregates, just use function call syntax.

Axel Polleres: No special form for aggregates, just use function call syntax. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:58:47 <AndyS> There is a synatx issue of  "my:agg(DISTINCT ?x)"

Andy Seaborne: There is a synatx issue of "my:agg(DISTINCT ?x)"

15:59:04 <AxelPolleres> current assumption is that normal functions and aggregates are disjoint?

Axel Polleres: current assumption is that normal functions and aggregates are disjoint?

15:59:09 <AndyS> I *think* this is OK but I have not had time to check.

Andy Seaborne: I *think* this is OK but I have not had time to check.

15:59:31 <AxelPolleres> q?

Axel Polleres: q?

15:59:33 <john-l> AxelPolleres: When would the DISTINCT keyword be allowed?

Axel Polleres: When would the DISTINCT keyword be allowed? [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

15:59:43 <AndyS> There will be some parser dancing - extra rules for function call to avoid.

Andy Seaborne: There will be some parser dancing - extra rules for function call to avoid.

16:00:04 <SteveH_> AndyS, yes, the syntax will be a bit murky

Steve Harris: AndyS, yes, the syntax will be a bit murky

16:00:08 <sandro> Bye folks, RIF meeting starts now.

Sandro Hawke: Bye folks, RIF meeting starts now.

16:00:19 <Zakim> -Sandro

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16:00:22 <dcharbon2> I have a hard stop at 11, bye guys

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16:00:41 <Zakim> -dcharbon2

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16:00:55 <john-l> AxelPolleres: We can't reach an official resolution for issue 15.

Axel Polleres: We can't reach an official resolution for ISSUE-15. [ Scribe Assist by John Clark ]

16:01:15 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji

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16:02:27 <AxelPolleres> andyS: extensible aggregates... problematic to check statically whether being used in FILTERs (if we agree to disallow that)?

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16:02:47 <Zakim> -IvanH

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16:02:49 <Zakim> -AlexPassant

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16:03:29 <Zakim> -bglimm

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16:04:17 <AxelPolleres> definitions need to settle around that, adjourned for today, thanks everybody.

Axel Polleres: definitions need to settle around that, adjourned for today, thanks everybody.

16:04:18 <LukeWM> bye

Luke Wilson-Mawer: bye

16:04:20 <Zakim> -MattPerry

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16:04:24 <MattPerry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye

16:04:26 <AndyS> ADJOURNED

Andy Seaborne: ADJOURNED

16:04:28 <Zakim> -john-l

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16:04:29 <Zakim> -Souri

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16:04:29 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

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16:04:29 <AndyS> Woo - issues closed

Andy Seaborne: Woo - issues closed

16:04:30 <Zakim> -AndyS

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16:04:33 <Zakim> -kasei

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16:04:43 <Zakim> -Prateek

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16:04:47 <Zakim> -pgearon

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16:05:00 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

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16:05:11 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, attendees?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, attendees?

16:05:11 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres.

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16:05:18 <AxelPolleres> regrets: LeeF
16:05:29 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, list attendees

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16:05:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been kasei, bglimm, dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, Ivan, AlexPassant, Souri, +1.216.445.aaaa, Sandro, SteveH_, LukeWM, john-l, pgearon, AndyS,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been kasei, bglimm, dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, Ivan, AlexPassant, Souri, +1.216.445.aaaa, Sandro, SteveH_, LukeWM, john-l, pgearon, AndyS,

16:05:30 <AndyS> pgearon - What prioritization of issue do you have?  Any interaction with query?

Andy Seaborne: pgearon - What prioritization of issue do you have? Any interaction with query?

16:05:32 <Zakim> ... MattPerry, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Prateek

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16:05:51 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

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16:06:44 <AxelPolleres> Pgaeron, all editors would be good if you could send a priotity list like Steve/Andy, Greg, Birte did to the list

Axel Polleres: Pgaeron, all editors would be good if you could send a priotity list like Steve/Andy, Greg, Birte did to the list

16:06:54 <AxelPolleres> Thanks

Axel Polleres: Thanks

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16:35:04 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, bglimm, dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, Ivan, AlexPassant, Souri, +1.216.445.aaaa, Sandro, SteveH_, LukeWM, john-l, pgearon, AndyS, MattPerry, Chimezie_Ogbuji,

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