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14:46:22 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
14:46:22 <trackbot> Date: 10 March 2011
14:46:28 <manu> Chair: Manu
14:59:32 <Steven> scribe: Steven
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15:01:06 <Zakim> + +44.123.456.aaaa
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15:01:08 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:01:13 <Zakim> +Ivan
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15:01:15 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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15:01:41 <Zakim> + +3539149aabb
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15:01:59 <Knud> zakim, I am aabb
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15:02:01 <Zakim> +??P17
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15:02:14 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
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15:02:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17
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15:02:17 <Benjamin> zakim, i am aaaa
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15:02:50 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0050
15:05:12 <manu> Topic: Updating RDFa Test Suites
15:05:19 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/
Manu Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/ ←
15:05:48 <Steven> Manu: I have made some updates for different host languages
Manu Sporny: I have made some updates for different host languages ←
15:06:08 <Steven> ...I need to add back the RDF 1.0 work
...I need to add back the RDF 1.0 work ←
15:06:16 <Zakim> +??P31
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15:06:17 <Steven> ... anyone can write and submit tests
... anyone can write and submit tests ←
15:06:31 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:06:35 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
Shane McCarron: zakim, who is here? ←
15:06:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ??P31
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15:06:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, Knud, Benjamin, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, webr3, ivan, tinkster2, manu, manu1, trackbot
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15:06:42 <manu> https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite
Manu Sporny: https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite ←
15:06:47 <ShaneM> zakim, I am ??P31
Shane McCarron: zakim, I am ??P31 ←
15:06:47 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
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15:07:28 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
15:07:41 <Steven> Manu: Please add tests you come across when doing your implementations
Manu Sporny: Please add tests you come across when doing your implementations ←
15:07:59 <Steven> Ivan: I've had problems accessing the site
Ivan Herman: I've had problems accessing the site ←
15:08:13 <Steven> Manu: You should have access
Manu Sporny: You should have access ←
15:08:18 <Steven> Ivan: I will try again
Ivan Herman: I will try again ←
15:08:39 <Steven> Manu: Ping me if you have problems
Manu Sporny: Ping me if you have problems ←
15:09:13 <Steven> Ivan: We should ensure we use the DTDs etc for the 1.1 tests
Ivan Herman: We should ensure we use the DTDs etc for the 1.1 tests ←
15:09:25 <ShaneM> Feel free to use the XML Schema for validation too.
Shane McCarron: Feel free to use the XML Schema for validation too. ←
15:09:27 <manu> Is this the DOCTYPE you're talking about: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-2.dtd">
Manu Sporny: Is this the DOCTYPE you're talking about: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-2.dtd"> ←
15:09:45 <Steven> ... all the 1.0 tests are in XHTML
... all the 1.0 tests are in XHTML ←
15:09:55 <Steven> ... do we need to repeat them in HTML5 and pure XML?
... do we need to repeat them in HTML5 and pure XML? ←
15:10:02 <Steven> Manu: Yes. We have an HTML5 test
Manu Sporny: Yes. We have an HTML5 test ←
15:10:10 <manu> HTML5 test suite uses: <!DOCTYPE html>
Manu Sporny: HTML5 testsuite suite uses: <!DOCTYPE html> ←
15:10:11 <Steven> s/test/testsuite/
15:10:57 <Steven> Ivan: It's nice to have SVG
Ivan Herman: It's nice to have SVG ←
15:11:16 <Steven> ... we now specify what it means to have a hostlanguage
... we now specify what it means to have a hostlanguage ←
15:11:28 <Steven> ... but we don't yet have an SVG hostlanguage
... but we don't yet have an SVG hostlanguage ←
15:12:03 <ShaneM> q+ to discuss media types
Shane McCarron: q+ to discuss media types ←
15:12:06 <Steven> Manu: We use media type to identify the content types
Manu Sporny: We use media type to identify the content types ←
15:12:17 <manu> ack shanem
Manu Sporny: ack shanem ←
15:12:17 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to discuss media types
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15:12:33 <Steven> Shane: XHTML5+RDFa?
Shane McCarron: XHTML5+RDFa? ←
15:12:42 <ivan> header http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/test-cases/0001.xhtmlHTTP/1.1 200 OK
Ivan Herman: header http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/test-cases/0001.xhtmlHTTP/1.1 200 OK ←
15:12:43 <ivan> Date Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:12:24 GMT
Ivan Herman: Date Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:12:24 GMT ←
15:12:43 <Steven> Manu: Yes...
Manu Sporny: Yes... ←
15:12:43 <ivan> Server Apache/2.2.16 (Debian)
Ivan Herman: Server Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) ←
15:12:43 <ivan> Vary Accept-Encoding
Ivan Herman: Vary Accept-Encoding ←
15:12:43 <ivan> Content-Type text/html
Ivan Herman: Content-Type text/html ←
15:12:50 <Steven> Shane: Media type?
Shane McCarron: Media type? ←
15:13:05 <Steven> Steven: Same as XHTML1.1
Steven Pemberton: Same as XHTML1.1 ←
15:13:32 <Steven> Ivan: I've just tried, and it doesn't seem to be working right
Ivan Herman: I've just tried, and it doesn't seem to be working right ←
15:13:36 <Steven> Manu: I'll check
Manu Sporny: I'll check ←
15:13:51 <ivan> alias header='curl --head '
Ivan Herman: alias header='curl --head ' ←
15:14:01 <Steven> SHane: Your client has to say it accepts the media type in order to get it
Shane McCarron: Your client has to say it accepts the media type in order to get it ←
15:14:22 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
15:14:35 <Steven> Ivan: I don't think curl sends an accept header
Ivan Herman: I don't think curl sends an accept header ←
15:14:55 <Steven> Manu: Oh, I don't change the content type. Bug. Will fix
Manu Sporny: Oh, I don't change the content type. Bug. Will fix ←
15:15:56 <Steven> Shane: If XHTML5 uses the same media type as XHTML 1 (and it does) then we don't know what versio
Shane McCarron: If XHTML5 uses the same media type as XHTML 1 (and it does) then we don't know what versio ←
15:16:12 <Steven> Steven: There is no difference in processing between XHTML5 and 1.1 surely
Steven Pemberton: There is no difference in processing between XHTML5 and 1.1 surely ←
15:16:16 <Steven> Ivan: Right
Ivan Herman: Right ←
15:16:21 <Steven> Shane: Not yet...
Shane McCarron: Not yet... ←
15:17:06 <Steven> Ivan: The two are esssentially the same from an RDFa POV
Ivan Herman: The two are esssentially the same from an RDFa POV ←
15:17:08 <Steven> Shane: OK
Shane McCarron: OK ←
15:17:33 <Steven> Shane: Therefore we don't need a separate XHTML5+RDFa testsuite then
Shane McCarron: Therefore we don't need a separate XHTML5+RDFa testsuite then ←
15:17:51 <Steven> Manu: I need to think about it more
Manu Sporny: I need to think about it more ←
15:18:27 <Steven> Manu: we could have a separate selector for XHTML5 though
Manu Sporny: we could have a separate selector for XHTML5 though ←
15:19:11 <Steven> ... the DOCTYPE of the result would change
... the DOCTYPE of the result would change ←
15:19:36 <Steven> ... the RDFa rules don't take the DOCTYPE into account though
... the RDFa rules don't take the DOCTYPE into account though ←
15:19:37 <Steven> Subtopic: Guessing Content-Type and DOCTYPE/root element sniffing
15:21:03 <Steven> Shane: There was a thread in the last 5 days
Shane McCarron: There was a thread in the last 5 days ←
15:21:35 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/thread.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/thread.html ←
15:22:00 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0037.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0037.html ←
15:22:36 <Steven> Shane: He asked if it's OK to look at the root element
Shane McCarron: He asked if it's OK to look at the root element ←
15:23:16 <Steven> ... to determine the document type
... to determine the document type ←
15:23:38 <Steven> ... but you don't get a media type in a filesystem, so how do you know?
... but you don't get a media type in a filesystem, so how do you know? ←
15:24:02 <Steven> Ivan: FIlename extensions are used to map to media types
Ivan Herman: Filename extensions are used to map to media types ←
15:24:08 <ShaneM> Gregg said in his mail: "I guess what concerns me is the requirements of a conforming processor. This depends on the interpretation of the third sentence (If the RDFa Processor is unable ...). I would hope/expect that a processor which uses unspecified heuristics to determine the document type (e.g., file extension, root element name, etc.) would not be inconsistent with this definition. If this leaves room for other forms of identification, perhaps the spec shoul
Shane McCarron: Gregg said in his mail: "I guess what concerns me is the requirements of a conforming processor. This depends on the interpretation of the third sentence (If the RDFa Processor is unable ...). I would hope/expect that a processor which uses unspecified heuristics to determine the document type (e.g., file extension, root element name, etc.) would not be inconsistent with this definition. If this leaves room for other forms of identification, perhaps the spec shoul ←
15:24:09 <Steven> s/FI/Fi/
15:24:35 <Steven> Shane: It is not required though
Shane McCarron: It is not required though ←
15:24:44 <Steven> Ivan: It is the only way I can see it working
Ivan Herman: It is the only way I can see it working ←
15:25:46 <Steven> Shane: Gregg wants to know if you are nonconforming if you sniff
Shane McCarron: Gregg wants to know if you are nonconforming if you sniff ←
15:26:13 <Steven> Manu: The decision to sniff happens after all other means have failed.
Manu Sporny: The decision to sniff happens after all other means have failed. ←
15:26:19 <Steven> ... we don't need to specify that
... we don't need to specify that ←
15:26:56 <Steven> ... do we think there are many people with this issue?
... do we think there are many people with this issue? ←
15:27:02 <Steven> ... I don't think so
... I don't think so ←
15:27:48 <Steven> Shane: But, if you don't specify it, you won't get interoperability
Shane McCarron: But, if you don't specify it, you won't get interoperability ←
15:27:58 <Steven> ... I agree we don't need to lock it down
... I agree we don't need to lock it down ←
15:28:30 <Steven> ... "We don't specify behaviour in the environment of incorrect input"
... "We don't specify behaviour in the environment of incorrect input" ←
15:29:01 <Steven> Manu: I propose leaving it unspecified. Any objections?
Manu Sporny: I propose leaving it unspecified. Any objections? ←
15:29:33 <Steven> Shane: Do we say that in the spec?
Shane McCarron: Do we say that in the spec? ←
15:29:39 <Steven> Manu: Probably
Manu Sporny: Probably ←
15:30:15 <ShaneM> I proposed: "If the media type is unavailable, a conforming RDFa Processor MAY look at the document's DOCTYPE to determine if its Formal Public Identifier matches that of a known Host Language."
Shane McCarron: I proposed: "If the media type is unavailable, a conforming RDFa Processor MAY look at the document's DOCTYPE to determine if its Formal Public Identifier matches that of a known Host Language." ←
15:30:28 <ShaneM> no reason to say this though
Shane McCarron: no reason to say this though ←
15:30:39 <Steven> Shane: Or use a note
Shane McCarron: Or use a note ←
15:31:24 <ShaneM> NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.
Shane McCarron: NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified. ←
15:33:03 <ShaneM> NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.
Shane McCarron: NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified. ←
15:33:19 <Steven> Manu: I like that text
Manu Sporny: I like that text ←
15:33:20 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.
PROPOSED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified. ←
15:33:23 <Steven> Ivan: It's fine
Ivan Herman: It's fine ←
15:33:37 <manu> +1
Manu Sporny: +1 ←
15:33:41 <Knud> +1
Knud Möller: +1 ←
15:33:41 <Steven> ... I don't want to be obliged to do sniffing
... I don't want to be obliged to do sniffing ←
15:33:45 <Steven> +1
+1 ←
15:33:47 <Benjamin> +1
Benjamin Adrian: +1 ←
15:34:00 <ShaneM> +1
Shane McCarron: +1 ←
15:34:02 <manu> RESOLVED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.
RESOLVED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified. ←
15:37:17 <manu> https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite/blob/master/crazyivan.js#L272
Manu Sporny: https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite/blob/master/crazyivan.js#L272 ←
15:38:18 <Steven> Manu: We are not going to review test cases; we'll hear about it from users if any are wrong
Manu Sporny: We are not going to review test cases; we'll hear about it from users if any are wrong ←
15:38:28 <Steven> ... OK with that?
... OK with that? ←
15:38:41 <manu> Topic: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 2nd Last Call
15:39:00 <Steven> ManU: I sent emails to all reviews of LC1
Manu Sporny: I sent emails to all reviews of LC1 ←
15:39:06 <Steven> s/U/u/
15:39:46 <Steven> ... we have done our duty
... we have done our duty ←
15:40:21 <Steven> Ivan: We don't need a reply; it would be good though
Ivan Herman: We don't need a reply; it would be good though ←
15:40:44 <Steven> Manu: Nathan has to reply to Ian Hickson
Manu Sporny: Nathan has to reply to Ian Hickson ←
15:41:02 <Steven> ... I haven't seen that reply yet
... I haven't seen that reply yet ←
15:41:17 <Steven> ... Issue-66
15:41:52 <manu> Nathan is supposed to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/66 and http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/76
Manu Sporny: Nathan is supposed to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/66 and http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/76 ←
15:42:07 <manu> Toby has to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/74
Manu Sporny: Toby has to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/74 ←
15:42:21 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?
zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:42:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM ←
15:42:49 <Steven> Manu: We need to do these
Manu Sporny: We need to do these ←
15:43:35 <Steven> ... let's delay for a week to let them do that
... let's delay for a week to let them do that ←
15:44:04 <Steven> Ivan: Maybe we should send replies
Ivan Herman: Maybe we should send replies ←
15:46:15 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:46:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM ←
15:46:26 <manu> zakim, ??P17 is me
Manu Sporny: zakim, ??P17 is me ←
15:46:26 <Zakim> +manu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +manu; got it ←
15:46:38 <Steven> web3r++
webr3++ ←
15:46:48 <Steven> s/3r/r3/
15:47:17 <Steven> Manu: Delay a week?
Manu Sporny: Delay a week? ←
15:47:20 <Steven> Ivan: No
Ivan Herman: No ←
15:47:46 <Steven> Steven: But that risks LC3
Steven Pemberton: But that risks LC3 ←
15:47:52 <Steven> Ivan: OK
Ivan Herman: OK ←
15:49:43 <Steven> Manu: THe TAG says we should clarify that we cannot follow the specs to figure out what a fragid means when you use it in the way RDFa uses it
Manu Sporny: The TAG says we should clarify that we cannot follow the specs to figure out what a fragid means when you use it in the way RDFa uses it ←
15:49:48 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
15:49:55 <manu> about="#me"
Manu Sporny: about="#me" ←
15:50:28 <Steven> Steven: I hate that. Foaf:PrimaryTopicOf is much better
Steven Pemberton: I hate that. Foaf:PrimaryTopicOf is much better ←
15:51:01 <ShaneM> I note that the TAG's job is to be pedantic.
Shane McCarron: I note that the TAG's job is to be pedantic. ←
15:51:12 <Steven> Manu: The TAG says it is fine to use #me, but we need to say that you can't work out what it is
Manu Sporny: The TAG says it is fine to use #me, but we need to say that you can't work out what it is ←
15:51:14 <manu> "In some of the examples below we have used URIs with fragment ids
Manu Sporny: "In some of the examples below we have used URIs with fragment ids ←
15:51:15 <manu> that are local to the document containing the RDFa fragments shown
Manu Sporny: that are local to the document containing the RDFa fragments shown ←
15:51:17 <manu> (e.g. 'about="#me"'). This idiom, which is also used in RDF/XML and
Manu Sporny: (e.g. 'about="#me"'). This idiom, which is also used in RDF/XML and ←
15:51:18 <manu> other RDF serializations, gives a simple way to 'mint' new URIs for
Manu Sporny: other RDF serializations, gives a simple way to 'mint' new URIs for ←
15:51:20 <manu> entities described by RDFa and therefore contributes considerably to
Manu Sporny: entities described by RDFa and therefore contributes considerably to ←
15:51:21 <manu> the expressive power of RDFa. However, the media type registrations
Manu Sporny: the expressive power of RDFa. However, the media type registrations ←
15:51:23 <manu> that govern the meaning of fragment identifiers (see section 3.5 of
Manu Sporny: that govern the meaning of fragment identifiers (see section 3.5 of ←
15:51:23 <Steven> Shane: It is nonnormative.
Shane McCarron: It is nonnormative. ←
15:51:24 <manu> the URI specification RFC 3986, RFC 3023, and RFC 2854) have not yet
Manu Sporny: the URI specification RFC 3986, RFC 3023, and RFC 2854) have not yet ←
15:51:26 <manu> caught up with this practice. Uses of fragment identifiers that are
Manu Sporny: caught up with this practice. Uses of fragment identifiers that are ←
15:51:27 <manu> arbitrarily different from the meaning they are assigned by the
Manu Sporny: arbitrarily different from the meaning they are assigned by the ←
15:51:29 <manu> relevant media type registrations (eg. via @id) should be avoided. See
Manu Sporny: relevant media type registrations (eg. via @id) should be avoided. See ←
15:51:30 <manu> also AWWW 3.2.1."
Manu Sporny: also AWWW 3.2.1." ←
15:51:50 <Steven> Shane: The TAG should give us text iof they think it's so importnant
Shane McCarron: The TAG should give us text if they think it's so important ←
15:51:51 <manu> I think that change is fine
Manu Sporny: I think that change is fine ←
15:51:55 <Steven> s/nant/ant/
15:53:21 <Steven> s/iof/if/
15:55:19 <Steven> Shane: Is this about using #id when there is no such id?
Shane McCarron: Is this about using #id when there is no such id? ←
15:55:39 <Steven> Manu: There is no spec that specifies the use of this use of fragids
Manu Sporny: There is no spec that specifies the use of this use of fragids ←
15:55:55 <Steven> Ivan: We're wasting time on this
Ivan Herman: We're wasting time on this ←
15:56:06 <Steven> Steven: It's our own fault for using it in our examples
Steven Pemberton: It's our own fault for using it in our examples ←
15:57:51 <Steven> Manu: OK with the text I pasted?
Manu Sporny: OK with the text I pasted? ←
15:57:57 <Steven> Shane: Up to the last sentence
Shane McCarron: Up to the last sentence ←
15:58:06 <Steven> Manu: I will strike it
Manu Sporny: I will strike it ←
15:58:09 <ShaneM> Strike the last sentence and move on.
Shane McCarron: Strike the last sentence and move on. ←
15:58:15 <Steven> +1
+1 ←
15:58:17 <manu> +1
Manu Sporny: +1 ←
15:59:09 <Steven> Steven: Next week's call is an hour earlier for Europeans
Steven Pemberton: Next week's call is an hour earlier for Europeans ←
16:00:16 <Steven> Shane: New dated ED?
Shane McCarron: New dated ED? ←
16:00:25 <Steven> Manu: Nah. Just make the changes
Manu Sporny: Nah. Just make the changes ←
16:00:48 <Steven> ... ping Gregg
... ping Gregg ←
16:00:52 <Steven> Shane: Already done
Shane McCarron: Already done ←
16:00:55 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
16:00:56 <Zakim> -manu
Zakim IRC Bot: -manu ←
16:00:57 <Zakim> -Knud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Knud ←
16:00:58 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
16:00:58 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
16:00:59 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
16:00:59 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
16:01:00 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
16:01:09 <Zakim> -Benjamin
Zakim IRC Bot: -Benjamin ←
16:01:10 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended ←
16:01:11 <Zakim> Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, +3539149aabb, Knud, Benjamin, ShaneM, manu
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, +3539149aabb, Knud, Benjamin, ShaneM, manu ←
16:01:14 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
16:01:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/10-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/10-rdfa-minutes.html Steven ←
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