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RDFa Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 25 February 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Feb/0073.html
Seen
Ben Adida, Benjamin Adrian, Knud Möller, Manu Sporny, Mark Birbeck, Markus Gylling, Robert Weir, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Unknown ivan
Regrets
Ben Adida
Chair
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Shane McCarron, Mark Birbeck, Manu Sporny
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src. link
Topics

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14:39:08 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-rdfa-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-rdfa-irc

14:39:27 <manu> trackbot, start telecon

Manu Sporny: trackbot, start telecon

14:39:29 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

14:39:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 7332

14:39:31 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes

14:39:32 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
14:39:32 <trackbot> Date: 25 February 2010
14:39:52 <manu> Chair: Manu Sporny
14:39:57 <manu> Regrets: Ben Adida
14:41:05 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Feb/0073.html
14:41:22 <manu> Scribe: Shane McCarron

(Scribe set to Shane McCarron)

14:43:18 <manu> action-3 due in 1 week

Manu Sporny: ACTION-3 due in 1 week

14:43:18 <trackbot> ACTION-3 Get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 due date now in 1 week

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-3 Get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 due date now in 1 week

14:57:13 <manu> trackbot, status

(No events recorded for 13 minutes)

Manu Sporny: trackbot, status

14:58:53 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started

14:59:00 <Zakim> +Benjamin

Zakim IRC Bot: +Benjamin

14:59:02 <Zakim> +Knud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Knud

14:59:19 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: zakim, dial ivan-voip

14:59:19 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

14:59:20 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

14:59:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:59:46 <manu> zakim, I am IPcaller

Manu Sporny: zakim, I am IPcaller

14:59:46 <Zakim> ok, manu, I now associate you with [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, manu, I now associate you with [IPcaller]

15:00:28 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-work

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-work

15:00:28 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made

15:00:29 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

15:00:39 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

15:00:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven

15:00:53 <Zakim> +mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: +mgylling

15:00:59 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven, mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven, mgylling

15:01:17 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven, mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan, [IPcaller], Steven, mgylling

15:01:42 <manu> trackbot, status

Manu Sporny: trackbot, status

15:01:59 <Zakim> + +1.978.692.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.978.692.aaaa

15:02:08 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

Mark Birbeck: zakim, code?

15:02:08 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

15:02:22 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: zakim, mute me

15:02:22 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

15:02:29 <manu> zakim, who is making noise?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is making noise?

15:02:30 <Steven> zakim, [IP is Manu

Steven Pemberton: zakim, [IP is Manu

15:02:30 <Zakim> +Manu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Manu; got it

15:02:43 <Zakim> manu, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (25%), mgylling (5%), Knud (10%)

Zakim IRC Bot: manu, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (25%), mgylling (5%), Knud (10%)

15:02:44 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy?

15:02:55 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (10%), mgylling (10%), Benjamin (9%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (10%), mgylling (10%), Benjamin (9%)

15:03:07 <manu> zakim, mute mgylling

Manu Sporny: zakim, mute mgylling

15:03:07 <Zakim> mgylling should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: mgylling should now be muted

15:03:21 <Zakim> +Mark_Birbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mark_Birbeck

15:03:30 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy

15:03:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is noisy', Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is noisy', Steven

15:03:35 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: zakim, who is here?

15:03:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan (muted), Manu, Steven, mgylling (muted), +1.978.692.aaaa, Mark_Birbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Knud, Ivan (muted), Manu, Steven, mgylling (muted), +1.978.692.aaaa, Mark_Birbeck

15:03:37 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy?

15:03:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, RobW, mgylling, Knud, RRSAgent, Zakim, manu, Steven, Benjamin, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see markbirbeck, RobW, mgylling, Knud, RRSAgent, Zakim, manu, Steven, Benjamin, ivan, trackbot

15:03:46 <manu> zakim, unmute mgylling

Manu Sporny: zakim, unmute mgylling

15:03:46 <Zakim> mgylling should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: mgylling should no longer be muted

15:03:47 <ivan> zakim, unmute me

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: zakim, unmute me

15:03:47 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should no longer be muted

15:03:47 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (24%), Benjamin (14%), Knud (5%), Mark_Birbeck (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (24%), Benjamin (14%), Knud (5%), Mark_Birbeck (5%)

15:04:00 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy?

15:04:01 <Zakim> +ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM

15:04:10 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.978.692.aaaa (39%), Knud (39%), Mark_Birbeck (4%), ??P36 (8%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.978.692.aaaa (39%), Knud (39%), Mark_Birbeck (4%), ??P36 (8%)

15:04:12 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is RobW

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: zakim, aaaa is RobW

15:04:13 <Zakim> +RobW; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +RobW; got it

15:04:46 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy?

15:04:56 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (39%), mgylling (8%), Knud (22%), Mark_Birbeck (33%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Manu (39%), mgylling (8%), Knud (22%), Mark_Birbeck (33%)

15:05:06 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Feb/0073.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Feb/0073.html

15:05:12 <Steven> zakim, mute knud temporarily

Steven Pemberton: zakim, mute knud temporarily

15:05:12 <Zakim> Knud should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Knud should now be muted

15:05:27 <Zakim> Knud should now be unmuted again

Zakim IRC Bot: Knud should now be unmuted again

15:05:36 <Steven> zakim, mute knud

Steven Pemberton: zakim, mute knud

15:05:36 <Zakim> Knud should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Knud should now be muted

15:06:03 <Steven> scribenick: markbirbeck

(Scribe set to Mark Birbeck)

15:06:21 <markbirbeck> Topic: Action items

1. Action items

15:06:34 <manu> action-3?

Manu Sporny: ACTION-3?

15:06:34 <trackbot> ACTION-3 -- Manu Sporny to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-3 -- Manu Sporny to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

15:06:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/3

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/3

15:06:54 <manu> trackbot, action-3 due in 1 week

Manu Sporny: trackbot, ACTION-3 due in 1 week

15:06:54 <trackbot> ACTION-3 Get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 due date now in 1 week

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-3 Get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142 due date now in 1 week

15:07:05 <manu> action-4?

Manu Sporny: ACTION-4?

15:07:05 <trackbot> ACTION-4 -- Mark Birbeck to generate spec text for @token and @prefix -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-4 -- Mark Birbeck to generate spec text for @token and @prefix -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

15:07:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/4

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/4

15:07:10 <markbirbeck> http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2010/02/vocabularies-token-bundles-profiles-rdfa

http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2010/02/vocabularies-token-bundles-profiles-rdfa

15:07:30 <ivan> q+

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: q+

15:08:08 <manu> trackbot, comment action-4 proposal at http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2010/02/vocabularies-token-bundles-profiles-rdfa

Manu Sporny: trackbot, comment ACTION-4 proposal at http://webbackplane.com/mark-birbeck/blog/2010/02/vocabularies-token-bundles-profiles-rdfa

15:08:08 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Generate spec text for @token and @prefix notes added

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-4 Generate spec text for @token and @prefix notes added

15:08:08 <Steven> ack i

Steven Pemberton: ack i

15:08:29 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Could we move the write-ups onto the wiki?

Scribe problem: the name 'Ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Ivan: Could we move the write-ups onto the wiki?

15:09:56 <markbirbeck> Mark_Birbeck: Don't mind. It was more that it didn't work as an email.

Mark Birbeck: Don't mind. It was more that it didn't work as an email.

15:10:06 <manu> action-5?

Manu Sporny: ACTION-5?

15:10:06 <trackbot> ACTION-5 -- Mark Birbeck to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 -- Mark Birbeck to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

15:10:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/5

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/5

15:10:51 <manu> trackbot, action-4 due in 1 week

Manu Sporny: trackbot, ACTION-4 due in 1 week

15:10:51 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Generate spec text for @token and @prefix due date now in 1 week

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-4 Generate spec text for @token and @prefix due date now in 1 week

15:10:54 <manu> trackbot, action-5 due in 1 week

Manu Sporny: trackbot, ACTION-5 due in 1 week

15:10:54 <trackbot> ACTION-5 Generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents due date now in 1 week

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 Generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents due date now in 1 week

15:11:12 <manu> trackbot, close action-7

Manu Sporny: trackbot, close ACTION-7

15:11:12 <trackbot> ACTION-7 Send Invited Expert proposals to Ivan closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-7 Send Invited Expert proposals to Ivan closed

15:11:25 <ivan> q+

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: q+

15:12:11 <markbirbeck> Manu: Have proposed Toby Inkster and Benji.

Manu Sporny: Have proposed Toby Inkster and Benji.

15:12:52 <manu> ACTION: Manu to get Toby to fill out Invited Expert form.

ACTION: Manu to get Toby to fill out Invited Expert form.

15:12:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Get Toby to fill out Invited Expert form. [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-03-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-10 - Get Toby to fill out Invited Expert form. [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-03-04].

15:12:56 <markbirbeck> ...Benji says he is too busy to take up the Invited Expert position. Also, he says that he wants large changes to RDFa, and doesn't see that happening.

...Benji says he is too busy to take up the Invited Expert position. Also, he says that he wants large changes to RDFa, and doesn't see that happening.

15:13:19 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Toby needs to fill in the IE form.

Scribe problem: the name 'Ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Ivan: Toby needs to fill in the IE form.

15:13:26 <markbirbeck> Manu: Will chase.

Manu Sporny: Will chase.

15:14:19 <markbirbeck> Ivan: What should we do with the issues that Benjamin raised?

Scribe problem: the name 'Ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Ivan: What should we do with the issues that Benjamin raised?

15:14:39 <manu> ISSUE-12?

Manu Sporny: ISSUE-12?

15:14:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-12 -- Analyze Benji's wishlist and determine if there are suggestions that will improve RDFa -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-12 -- Analyze Benji's wishlist and determine if there are suggestions that will improve RDFa -- OPEN

15:14:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/12

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/12

15:14:52 <markbirbeck> Manu: Think we should keep the issues. Any other views on that?

Manu Sporny: Think we should keep the issues. Any other views on that?

15:14:56 <ivan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0065.html

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0065.html

15:15:29 <markbirbeck> Manu: Can we discuss this on the list?

Manu Sporny: Can we discuss this on the list?

15:15:57 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Some of them are pretty substantial; change attribute names, harmonise with Microdata.

Scribe problem: the name 'Ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Ivan: Some of them are pretty substantial; change attribute names, harmonise with Microdata.

15:16:44 <markbirbeck> Manu: Agree, but the action is to look at the suggestions and see what might be used from there.

Manu Sporny: Agree, but the action is to look at the suggestions and see what might be used from there.

15:18:31 <markbirbeck> q+

q+

15:18:36 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

15:18:38 <ivan> ack ivan

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ivan' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: BOUBA FANTA Ben Adida Benjamin Adrian Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeffrey Sonstein John O'Donovan Knud Möller Manu Sporny Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Robert Weir Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ivan: ack ivan

15:18:51 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

15:19:36 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: Maybe we should re-visit ISSUE-12 in a couple of weeks.

Mark Birbeck: Maybe we should re-visit ISSUE-12 in a couple of weeks. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

15:20:06 <manu> action-8?

Manu Sporny: ACTION-8?

15:20:06 <trackbot> ACTION-8 -- Shane McCarron to coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa -- due 2010-02-26 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-8 -- Shane McCarron to coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa -- due 2010-02-26 -- OPEN

15:20:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/8

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/8

15:20:39 <Knud> (did we talk about Action-6?)

Knud Möller: (did we talk about ACTION-6?)

15:21:24 <manu> ISSUE: Coordinate with PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa

ISSUE: Coordinate with PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa

15:21:24 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-17 - Coordinate with PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/17/edit .

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-17 - Coordinate with PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/17/edit .

15:21:44 <markbirbeck> Shane: RDFa needs a way for other groups to be able to add attributes and elements to the list.

Shane McCarron: RDFa needs a way for other groups to be able to add attributes and elements to the list of supported attributes.

15:21:54 <markbirbeck> s/to the list/to the list of supported attributes/
15:22:27 <manu> trackbot, drop action-8

Manu Sporny: trackbot, drop ACTION-8

15:22:27 <trackbot> Sorry, manu, I don't understand 'trackbot, drop action-8'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

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15:22:32 <manu> trackbot, close action-8

Manu Sporny: trackbot, close ACTION-8

15:22:32 <trackbot> ACTION-8 Coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-8 Coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa closed

15:22:57 <manu> trackbot, comment action-8 Closed action in favor of creating as ISSUE-17

Manu Sporny: trackbot, comment ACTION-8 Closed action in favor of creating as ISSUE-17

15:22:58 <trackbot> ACTION-8 Coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa notes added

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-8 Coordinate with the PFWG on @role and how @role integrates with RDFa notes added

15:23:41 <Steven> Yay! RDFa stylesheets!

Steven Pemberton: Yay! RDFa stylesheets!

15:24:05 <manu> action-6?

Manu Sporny: ACTION-6?

15:24:05 <trackbot> ACTION-6 -- Shane McCarron to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 -- Shane McCarron to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN

15:24:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/actions/6

15:24:16 <markbirbeck> Shane: Will write up a proposal on how other people might indicate in documents that other attributes are supported.

Shane McCarron: Will write up a proposal on how other people might indicate in documents that other attributes are supported.

15:24:21 <manu> trackbot, close action-6

Manu Sporny: trackbot, close ACTION-6

15:24:21 <trackbot> ACTION-6 Identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 Identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them closed

15:24:34 <manu> trackbot, comment action-6 it works.

Manu Sporny: trackbot, comment ACTION-6 it works.

15:24:34 <trackbot> ACTION-6 Identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them notes added

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 Identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them notes added

15:24:57 <markbirbeck> Topic: Review High-level Work Plan

2. Review High-level Work Plan

15:25:00 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/Work-plan

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/Work-plan

15:25:42 <markbirbeck> Manu: Very high level proposal on the wiki.

Manu Sporny: Very high level proposal on the wiki.

15:26:17 <markbirbeck> ...On the API document we have Benjamin Adrian.

...On the API document we have Benjamin Adrian.

15:26:29 <markbirbeck> ...We probably need other editors -- anyone?

...We probably need other editors -- anyone?

15:26:40 <Steven> q+

Steven Pemberton: q+

15:26:41 <markbirbeck> q+

q+

15:27:01 <manu> ack steven

Manu Sporny: ack steven

15:27:40 <markbirbeck> Steven: Ben has experience of working on APIs -- would seem an obvious choice.

Steven Pemberton: Ben has experience of working on APIs -- would seem an obvious choice.

15:27:43 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

15:27:43 <manu> scribenick: manu

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15:28:03 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: I was going to offer my services - I've been working on a Javascript library, so I'm interested.

Mark Birbeck: I was going to offer my services - I've been working on a Javascript library, so I'm interested.

15:28:32 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: Jenni Tennison has a slightly different notion about the API - sits on top of SPARQL. We may try to harmonize with that work.

Mark Birbeck: Jeni Tennison has a slightly different API that is related - sits on top of SPARQL. We may try to harmonize with that work.

15:29:08 <ivan> q+

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Unknown ivan: q+

15:29:52 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: Do we want this in a separate document?

Mark Birbeck: Do we want this in a separate document?

15:29:55 <manu> ack Ivan

ack Ivan

15:27:43 <manu> scribenick: markbirbeck

(Scribe set to Mark Birbeck)

15:30:27 <markbirbeck> Mark_Birbeck: Experience of XForms WG is that if we have 'owners' of work, it tends to create a little fragmentation in the spec.

Mark Birbeck: Experience of XForms WG is that if we have 'owners' of work, it tends to create a little fragmentation in the spec.

15:30:53 <markbirbeck> Ivan: True that it's separate in the charter, but might not be a problem to change our minds later. So can defer this.

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Unknown Ivan: True that it's separate in the charter, but might not be a problem to change our minds later. So can defer this.

15:31:07 <manu> q+ to discuss taking the discussion to the mailing list.

Manu Sporny: q+ to discuss taking the discussion to the mailing list.

15:31:32 <markbirbeck> Mark_Birbeck: Fine.

Mark Birbeck: Fine.

15:32:34 <markbirbeck> Manu: Could move this to the mailing-list.

Manu Sporny: Could move this to the mailing-list.

15:32:39 <ivan> ack manu

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Unknown ivan: ack manu

15:32:39 <Zakim> Manu, you wanted to discuss taking the discussion to the mailing list.

Zakim IRC Bot: Manu, you wanted to discuss taking the discussion to the mailing list.

15:33:26 <markbirbeck> s/Jenni/Jeni/
15:33:36 <Steven> q+

Steven Pemberton: q+

15:33:56 <manu> ack steven

Manu Sporny: ack steven

15:34:01 <markbirbeck> s/different notion about the API/different API that is related/
15:34:35 <Knud> q+

Knud Möller: q+

15:34:42 <markbirbeck> Steven: How were people assigned to issues? Randomly?

Steven Pemberton: How were people assigned to issues? Randomly?

15:34:45 <manu> ack knud

Manu Sporny: ack knud

15:34:46 <Knud> I'm muted

Knud Möller: I'm muted

15:35:02 <markbirbeck> Manu: No. I tried to look at issues and who had the skills to address them.

Manu Sporny: No. I tried to look at issues and who had the skills to address them.

15:35:09 <ivan> q+

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Unknown ivan: q+

15:35:29 <markbirbeck> ...I may have failed, so please comment on whether you think you should be dealing with an issue (and of course, if not).

...I may have failed, so please comment on whether you think you should be dealing with an issue (and of course, if not).

15:35:35 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

15:35:36 <Steven> zakim, mute knud

Steven Pemberton: zakim, mute knud

15:35:37 <Zakim> Knud should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Knud should now be muted

15:35:48 <markbirbeck> Knud: What is the Triple Store API about?

Knud Möller: What is the Triple Store API about?

15:36:07 <markbirbeck> Manu: I assigned you because I thought your name came up on that.

Manu Sporny: I assigned you because I thought your name came up on that.

15:36:26 <manu> q+ to explain that RDFa triplestore API is /not/ a required piece of work.

Manu Sporny: q+ to explain that RDFa triplestore API is /not/ a required piece of work.

15:36:42 <markbirbeck> Ivan: The idea is that rather than having an RDFa-specific API, we could look at something more generic.

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Unknown Ivan: The idea is that rather than having an RDFa-specific API, we could look at something more generic.

15:37:19 <markbirbeck> zakim, mute me

zakim, mute me

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15:37:29 <manu> q-

Manu Sporny: q-

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Manu Sporny: zakim, unmute knud

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15:38:10 <markbirbeck> ...but it's not a required piece of work.

...but it's not a required piece of work.

15:38:20 <markbirbeck> Knud: So it's not a generic API, but a JavaScript one?

Knud Möller: So it's not a generic API, but a JavaScript one?

15:38:26 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Yes, that's right.

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Unknown Ivan: Yes, that's right.

15:38:31 <manu> zakim, mute knud

Manu Sporny: zakim, mute knud

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15:39:26 <markbirbeck> Ivan: If there are documents that we'd like to be involved in, but not as lead editor, what should we do?

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Unknown Ivan: If there are documents that we'd like to be involved in, but not as lead editor, what should we do?

15:39:36 <markbirbeck> Manu: Go ahead and add yourself to the end of the list.

Manu Sporny: Go ahead and add yourself to the end of the list.

15:39:55 <markbirbeck> Topic: ISSUE-2: Extend RDFa to allow URIs in all RDFa attributes

3. ISSUE-2: Extend RDFa to allow URIs in all RDFa attributes

15:39:57 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/2

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/2

15:40:00 <manu> ISSUE-2?

Manu Sporny: ISSUE-2?

15:40:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-2 -- Extend RDFa to allow URIs in all RDFa attributes -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-2 -- Extend RDFa to allow URIs in all RDFa attributes -- OPEN

15:40:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/2

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/2

15:42:12 <markbirbeck> Manu: The RDFa TF discussed and voted to support 'URIs anywhere'.

Manu Sporny: The RDFa TF discussed and voted to support 'URIs anywhere'.

15:42:19 <ivan> q+

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Unknown ivan: q+

15:42:26 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

15:42:27 <markbirbeck> ...We need to decide whether we will bring that proposal in.

...We need to decide whether we will bring that proposal in.

15:42:59 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Might be worth setting the context.

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Unknown Ivan: Might be worth setting the context.

15:43:20 <markbirbeck> zakim, unmute me

zakim, unmute me

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15:43:39 <manu> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-rdfa-syntax-20100113/

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-rdfa-syntax-20100113/

15:43:51 <manu> That's the latest text.

Manu Sporny: That's the latest text.

15:43:20 <markbirbeck> scribenick: manu

(Scribe set to Manu Sporny)

created using i/Mark_Birbeck: The key thing is that/scribenick: manu
15:44:01 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: The key thing is that

Mark Birbeck: The key thing is that

15:44:22 <manu> ... realization that after working on CURIEs and URIs is that you could tell the difference between a CURIE and a URI

... realization that after working on CURIEs and URIs is that you could tell the difference between a CURIE and a URI

15:44:49 <manu> ... basically, if there is a prefix, it's a CURIE

... basically, if there is a prefix, it's a CURIE

15:44:59 <manu> ... if there isn't a prefix, it's a URI.

... if there isn't a prefix, it's a URI.

15:45:19 <manu> i/Mark_Birbeck: The key thing is that/scribenick: manu
15:45:48 <ivan> q+

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Unknown ivan: q+

15:45:53 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: The motivation for this is that for small pieces of markup, it allows one to just use URIs instead of defining a ton of namespace prefix mappings.

Mark Birbeck: The motivation for this is that for small pieces of markup, it allows one to just use URIs instead of defining a ton of namespace prefix mappings.

15:46:32 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: It also allows easy cut-and-paste, which is a more overstated problem than it really is, but if you're concerned about that, this goes toward solving that issue.

Mark Birbeck: It also allows easy cut-and-paste, which is a more overstated problem than it really is, but if you're concerned about that, this goes toward solving that issue.

15:46:55 <manu> Ivan: This is a fairly trivial implementation.

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Unknown Ivan: This is a fairly trivial implementation.

15:47:02 <markbirbeck> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Nov/0081.html

Mark Birbeck: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Nov/0081.html

15:47:12 <manu> Ivan: separate issue, how will this change affect values for @resource and @about?

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Unknown Ivan: separate issue, how will this change affect values for @resource and @about?

15:47:34 <manu> Ivan: @resource and @about are defined to have URIs or Safe CURIEs, but with the same logic, we can unify all attributes.

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Unknown Ivan: @resource and @about are defined to have URIs or Safe CURIEs, but with the same logic, we can unify all attributes.

15:48:08 <manu> Ivan: let me explain with some markup

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Unknown Ivan: let me explain with some markup

15:48:15 <ivan> xmlns="a:xxxxx" resource="a:something"

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Unknown ivan: xmlns="a:xxxxx" resource="a:something"

15:49:13 <manu> Mark_Birbeck: We were warned off of doing that in @href, so that's why we don't support it in @resource.

Mark Birbeck: We were warned off of doing that in @href, so that's why we don't support it in @resource.

15:49:28 <ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/rdfawg/rdfa-core/

Shane McCarron: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/rdfawg/rdfa-core/

15:49:48 <manu> Ivan: We shouldn't touch @href and @src

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Unknown Ivan: We shouldn't touch @href and @src

15:49:48 <manu> scribenick: markbirbeck

(Scribe set to Mark Birbeck)

15:50:57 <markbirbeck> Mark_Birbeck: We now use the token 'URIorCURIEs' in the spec, which means it will be everywhere.

Mark Birbeck: We now use the token 'URIorCURIEs' in the spec, which means it will be everywhere.

15:51:07 <markbirbeck> Shane: Yes, it's already done.

Shane McCarron: Yes, it's already done.

15:51:25 <markbirbeck> Manu: We don't need to agree the solution here, we just need to vote on whether we want this.

Manu Sporny: We don't need to agree the solution here, we just need to vote on whether we want this.

15:51:46 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to suggest short names for each working group deliverable by 1 March 2010

ACTION: Shane to suggest short names for each working group deliverable by 1 March 2010

15:51:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - Suggest short names for each working group deliverable by 1 March 2010 [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-03-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-11 - Suggest short names for each working group deliverable by 1 March 2010 [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-03-04].

15:52:03 <markbirbeck> ...Any other questions on this? Would people feel comfortable doing a staw-poll now?

...Any other questions on this? Would people feel comfortable doing a staw-poll now?

15:53:08 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes where CURIEs are allowed.

PROPOSED: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes where CURIEs are allowed.

15:53:31 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes..

PROPOSED: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes..

15:53:42 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes, barring @href and @src.

PROPOSED: Add support for full URIs in RDFa attributes, barring @href and @src.

15:54:03 <Steven> href has full URIs alrady

Steven Pemberton: href has full URIs alrady

15:54:34 <markbirbeck> PROPOSAL: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

PROPOSED: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

15:54:38 <ivan> PROPOSAL: for all attributes, except @href and @src, both CURIE and URI-s can be used, with priority to the former

PROPOSED: for all attributes, except @href and @src, both CURIE and URI-s can be used, with priority to the former

15:56:34 <manu> PROPOSAL: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

PROPOSED: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

15:56:38 <ivan> +1

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Unknown ivan: +1

15:56:39 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

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15:56:43 <manu> +1

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15:56:59 <manu> RESOLUTION: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

RESOLVED: Allow both URIs and CURIEs in all RDFa attributes, except @href and @src.

15:57:06 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes

15:57:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

15:57:21 <ivan> q+

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Unknown ivan: q+

15:57:27 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

15:58:45 <markbirbeck> Topic: Ensuring RDFa WG Resolutions are Reflected in HTML+RDFa

4. Ensuring RDFa WG Resolutions are Reflected in HTML+RDFa

15:58:49 <ShaneM> and I will have a draft RDFa Core document by Monday

Shane McCarron: and I will have a draft RDFa Core document by Monday

15:59:13 <markbirbeck> Ivan: How do resolutions such as this work their way into the HTML 5 version of the draft?

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Unknown Ivan: How do resolutions such as this work their way into the HTML 5 version of the draft?

15:59:14 <markbirbeck> Manu: In 3-4 months, after we publish RDFa Core 1.1, HTML+RDFa will normatively refer to RDFa Core 1.1. Because it normatively refers to RDFa Core 1.1, the resolution we just passed will be included by reference in HTML+RDFa (and thus, be valid in XHTML+RDFa, HTML4+RDFa and HTML5+RDFa markup).

Manu Sporny: In 3-4 months, after we publish RDFa Core 1.1, HTML+RDFa will normatively refer to RDFa Core 1.1. Because it normatively refers to RDFa Core 1.1, the resolution we just passed will be included by reference in HTML+RDFa (and thus, be valid in XHTML+RDFa, HTML4+RDFa and HTML5+RDFa markup).

15:59:16 <manu> ISSUE-11?

Manu Sporny: ISSUE-11?

15:59:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 -- Determine if there is a subset of popular prefix declarations that should be enabled in all RDFa Processors -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-11 -- Determine if there is a subset of popular prefix declarations that should be enabled in all RDFa Processors -- OPEN

15:59:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/11

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/11

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16:00:40 <Zakim> -Steven

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