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15:11:36 <manu> zakim, this will be rdfa
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Unknown manu: zakim, this will be rdfa ←
15:11:36 <Zakim> ok, manu; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 49 minutes
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15:11:55 <manu> rrsagent, make logs public
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Unknown manu: rrsagent, make logs public ←
15:11:58 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes
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Unknown manu: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:11:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html manu
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15:12:13 <manu> Meeting: RDFa in XHTML Task Force
15:12:17 <manu> Chair: Manu Sporny
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15:12:37 <manu> Present: Manu_Sporny, Ivan_Herman, Shane_McCarron
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15:12:41 <manu> Regrets: Ben_Adida
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15:13:10 <manu> Scribe: Shane_McCarron
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15:15:23 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0031.html
15:15:40 <manu> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html
15:16:50 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:16:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html manu
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15:58:41 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
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15:58:48 <Zakim> +??P0
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15:58:51 <manu> zakim, I am ??P0
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15:58:51 <Zakim> +manu; got it
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15:58:56 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:58:56 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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15:58:57 <Zakim> +Ivan
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15:59:49 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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16:01:40 <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM
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(Scribe set to Unknown ShaneM)
16:01:50 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items
16:01:55 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html ←
16:02:05 <Steven_> zakim, dial steven-617
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
16:02:09 <Steven_> zakim, who is here?
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, who is here? ←
16:02:12 <Zakim> ok, Steven_; the call is being made
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16:02:20 <Zakim> +Steven
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16:02:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, Ivan, ShaneM, Steven (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, Ivan, ShaneM, Steven (muted) ←
16:02:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven_, ShaneM, RRSAgent, Zakim, manu, ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Steven_, ShaneM, RRSAgent, Zakim, manu, ivan ←
16:02:44 <Steven_> zakim, who is muted?
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, who is muted? ←
16:03:09 <Zakim> I see no one muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one muted ←
16:03:32 <ShaneM> ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] --done
ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] --done ←
16:03:52 <ShaneM> --done
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--done ←
16:04:07 <ShaneM> ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] ←
16:04:08 <ShaneM> --done
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--done ←
16:04:12 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html ←
16:04:24 <ShaneM> ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]
ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←
16:04:26 <ShaneM> --continues
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--continues ←
16:04:36 <ShaneM> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [recorded in ACTION-05]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-05] ←
16:04:38 <ShaneM> --continues
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--continues ←
16:04:44 <ShaneM> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]on07! [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in ACTION-07]on07!">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]on07! [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] ←
16:04:46 <ShaneM> --continues
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--continues ←
16:05:12 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Chartering process update
16:05:14 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, code? ←
16:05:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck ←
16:05:27 <ShaneM> ivan: nothing new to report
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: nothing new to report ←
16:05:54 <Zakim> +??P34
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P34 ←
16:06:00 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, i am ? ←
16:06:00 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +markbirbeck; got it ←
16:06:24 <ShaneM> ivan: deadline is coming up. Need to contact a few people before then so we ensure people who expressed interest have a change to sign up.
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: deadline is coming up. Need to contact a few people before then so we ensure people who expressed interest have a chance to sign up. ←
16:06:32 <ShaneM> s/change/chance/
16:13:26 <ShaneM> TOPIC: RDFa Working Group Authoring Tools
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16:14:55 <Steven_> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, mute me ←
16:14:55 <Zakim> sorry, Steven_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
16:15:04 <Steven_> zakim, I am Steven
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, I am Steven ←
16:15:04 <Zakim> ok, Steven_, I now associate you with Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven_, I now associate you with Steven ←
16:15:05 <ShaneM> manu: some members have been kicking ideas around privately. looking at reSpec and CVS + something external for diffs
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: some members have been kicking ideas around privately. looking at reSpec and CVS + something external for diffs ←
16:15:11 <Steven_> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, mute me ←
16:15:11 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven should now be muted ←
16:16:28 <ShaneM> reSpec worked reasonably well for doing the Vocabulary document
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reSpec worked reasonably well for doing the Vocabulary document ←
16:16:52 <ShaneM> ivan: other tool sets seem to require installing lots of stuff - high barrier to entry
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: other tool sets seem to require installing lots of stuff - high barrier to entry ←
16:18:28 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: original thought was to use Ant so it was possible to run things on different platforms... but that doesn't seem compatible with the model.
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Unknown markbirbeck: original thought was to use Ant so it was possible to run things on different platforms... but that doesn't seem compatible with the model. ←
16:18:34 <Steven_> ack me
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Unknown Steven_: ack me ←
16:19:13 <Steven_> q+
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Unknown Steven_: q+ ←
16:19:37 <ShaneM> q+ to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa?
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q+ to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa? ←
16:19:56 <ShaneM> ivan: need to ensure that the references it produces are up to date
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: need to ensure that the references it produces are up to date ←
16:20:03 <manu> ack Steven
Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack Steven ←
16:20:44 <ShaneM> Steven_: only fear is how we are going to produce diff-marked versions. We need some way to produce these.
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Unknown Steven_: only fear is how we are going to produce diff-marked versions. We need some way to produce these. ←
16:20:46 <manu> ack ShaneM
Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ShaneM ←
16:20:46 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa?
Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, you wanted to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa? ←
16:21:41 <ShaneM> ShaneM: are you authoring in HTML or wysiwyg
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Unknown ShaneM: are you authoring in HTML or wysiwyg ←
16:21:47 <ShaneM> ivan: HTML(5).
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: HTML(5). ←
16:22:14 <ShaneM> ivan: any RDFa that is put into the code would just stay there.
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: any RDFa that is put into the code would just stay there. ←
16:23:07 <Steven_> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, mute me ←
16:23:09 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven should now be muted ←
16:23:27 <ShaneM> ShaneM: can we have it produce XHTML? Its a permitted format.
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Unknown ShaneM: can we have it produce XHTML? Its a permitted format. ←
16:23:37 <ShaneM> manu: seems like it would be a simple change.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: seems like it would be a simple change. ←
16:24:25 <manu> s/TOPIC/Topic/
16:25:28 <ShaneM> ShaneM: CVS has the ability to run scripts - so we can have diffs generated automatically as part of the checkin
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Unknown ShaneM: CVS has the ability to run scripts - so we can have diffs generated automatically as part of the checkin ←
16:26:12 <ShaneM> manu: we don't have a solution for PDF or for multi-page documents.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: we don't have a solution for PDF or for multi-page documents. ←
16:26:22 <Steven_> zakim, who is muted?
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, who is muted? ←
16:26:22 <Zakim> I see no one muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one muted ←
16:26:28 <Steven_> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Steven_: zakim, mute me ←
16:26:28 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven should now be muted ←
16:27:14 <ShaneM> manu: a multi-page document is a document that is split into sections with a master table of contents
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: a multi-page document is a document that is split into sections with a master table of contents ←
16:27:30 <ShaneM> ivan: not convinced we need this because our specs are relatively small.
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: not convinced we need this because our specs are relatively small. ←
16:27:44 <ShaneM> manu: having both versions is nice. Not necessarily a high priority.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: having both versions is nice. Not necessarily a high priority. ←
16:28:40 <ShaneM> ShaneM: W3C already uses html2ps so... if we can identify the conventions that make that work it should be fine.
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Unknown ShaneM: W3C already uses html2ps so... if we can identify the conventions that make that work it should be fine. ←
16:28:58 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html ←
16:29:00 <ShaneM> ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them.
ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. ←
16:29:21 <ShaneM> Topic: HTML RDFa heartbeat draft
16:30:06 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#preserving-namespaces-via-coercion-to-infoset
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#preserving-namespaces-via-coercion-to-infoset ←
16:30:16 <ShaneM> manu: specified rules for maintaining namespaces in the generated DOM.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: specified rules for maintaining namespaces in the generated DOM. ←
16:30:39 <ShaneM> manu: also added informative sections describing how infoset based and dom 2 based processors work
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: also added informative sections describing how infoset based and dom 2 based processors work ←
16:30:48 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#infoset-based-processors
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#infoset-based-processors ←
16:31:16 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#dom-level-2-based-processors
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#dom-level-2-based-processors ←
16:32:09 <ShaneM> feedback so far is fairly positive. no one is attempting to block publication at this time.
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feedback so far is fairly positive. no one is attempting to block publication at this time. ←
16:34:08 <ShaneM> ShaneM: not excited about codifying implementation algorithms
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Unknown ShaneM: not excited about codifying implementation algorithms ←
16:34:37 <ShaneM> manu: testing people from user agent vendors seem excited about understanding the implementation methodology to limit the possibility of incompatibilities in the future.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: testing people from user agent vendors seem excited about understanding the implementation methodology to limit the possibility of incompatibilities in the future. ←
16:34:45 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: likes it.
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Unknown markbirbeck: likes it. ←
16:35:40 <manu> Topic: RDFa Vocabularies
16:36:18 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html
Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html ←
16:37:45 <ShaneM> manu: Discussion about CORS
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: Discussion about CORS ←
16:38:35 <ShaneM> uncertain if CORS is actually implemented in major browsers.
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uncertain if CORS is actually implemented in major browsers. ←
16:40:42 <ShaneM> ivan: if CORS is not available, this vocab proposal seems hard to support
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: if CORS is not available, this vocab proposal seems hard to support ←
16:41:26 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: had a hack for Safari that would support doing cross site retrieval via an iframe - but that didn't work in other user agents.
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Unknown markbirbeck: had a hack for Safari that would support doing cross site retrieval via an iframe - but that didn't work in other user agents. ←
16:42:41 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: content negotiation should be part of the solution. there is no need for a rich new syntax. any existing syntax should be supportable. RDFa, HTML, JSON...
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Unknown markbirbeck: content negotiation should be part of the solution. there is no need for a rich new syntax. any existing syntax should be supportable. RDFa, HTML, JSON... ←
16:43:10 <ShaneM> ivan: why doesnt cross domain security apply to JSON files?
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: why doesnt cross domain security apply to JSON files? ←
16:44:13 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: In the same way that you can get an image from any location into a page, you can refer to a script via an src attribute on another site. The code might not run, so you use something called JSONp. You return a function call, and the parameters are the data you want to get into the host application.
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Unknown markbirbeck: In the same way that you can get an image from any location into a page, you can refer to a script via an src attribute on another site. The code might not run, so you use something called JSONp. You return a function call, and the parameters are the data you want to get into the host application. ←
16:45:07 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: would need a convention for emitting the right format (e.g. function call with parameters)
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Unknown markbirbeck: would need a convention for emitting the right format (e.g. function call with parameters) ←
16:46:23 <ShaneM> manu: concern about requiring a JSON parser then to handle vocabs.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: concern about requiring a JSON parser then to handle vocabs. ←
16:46:25 <markbirbeck> document.meta.addMappings( { "foaf" : "http://..." } );
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Unknown markbirbeck: document.meta.addMappings( { "foaf" : "http://..." } ); ←
16:47:50 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: the base format doesn't preclude parsing by non-JS environments. just need to strip off the beginning bit and parse through the name value pairs
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Unknown markbirbeck: the base format doesn't preclude parsing by non-JS environments. just need to strip off the beginning bit and parse through the name value pairs ←
16:47:57 <ivan> q+
Unknown Ivan_Herman: q+ ←
16:48:18 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: this doesn't impact authors. It effects vocabulary creators and parsers.
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Unknown markbirbeck: this doesn't impact authors. It effects vocabulary creators and parsers. ←
16:48:51 <manu> ack ivan
Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ivan ←
16:49:14 <manu> q+
Unknown Manu_Sporny: q+ ←
16:49:48 <ShaneM> ivan: no problem if what we say is that at a given URI we have a JSON file. There is support for JSON in other languages like Python already.
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: no problem if what we say is that at a given URI we have a JSON file. There is support for JSON in other languages like Python already. ←
16:50:41 <ShaneM> ivan: not as excited about content negotiation. Seems like this is an extra complication that we don't want to force our vocabulary authors to have to deal with.
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: not as excited about content negotiation. Seems like this is an extra complication that we don't want to force our vocabulary authors to have to deal with. ←
16:51:49 <ShaneM> manu: concern about how the information would get included in the document.
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: concern about how the information would get included in the document. ←
16:52:00 <manu> <script src="http://example.org/myvocab.js" />
Unknown Manu_Sporny: <script src="http://example.org/myvocab.js" /> ←
16:52:26 <markbirbeck> @vocab="http://example.org/myvocab"
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Unknown markbirbeck: @vocab="http://example.org/myvocab" ←
16:54:45 <manu> var theVocab="HTMLDOCUMENT";
Unknown Manu_Sporny: var theVocab="HTMLDOCUMENT"; ←
16:55:14 <manu> var theVocab="HTML+RDFa DOCUMENT";
Unknown Manu_Sporny: var theVocab="HTML+RDFa DOCUMENT"; ←
16:55:37 <ShaneM> document.meta.parseRdfa("HTML+RDFa Document")
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document.meta.parseRdfa("HTML+RDFa Document") ←
16:57:38 <markbirbeck> http://example.org/myvocab.js?callback=document.meta.addMappings
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Unknown markbirbeck: http://example.org/myvocab.js?callback=document.meta.addMappings ←
16:59:07 <ShaneM> ivan: so a python system would use the basic URI - a JS implementaiton would append the callback CGI parameter
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Unknown Ivan_Herman: so a python system would use the basic URI - a JS implementation would append the callback CGI parameter ←
16:59:15 <ShaneM> s/implementaiton/implementation/
17:00:31 <ShaneM> could we require the servers to serve up other formats?
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: could we require the servers to serve up other formats? ←
17:00:50 <ShaneM> s/could/manu: could/
17:01:50 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: Jeni is working on standardizing the format of data that is being returned from servers (RDF <-> JSON) etc.
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Unknown markbirbeck: Jeni is working on standardizing the format of data that is being returned from servers (RDF <-> JSON) etc. ←
17:02:43 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: it would be nice if this effort and the linked data effort on mappings converge.
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Unknown markbirbeck: it would be nice if this effort and the linked data effort on mappings converge. ←
17:03:14 <markbirbeck> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
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Unknown markbirbeck: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/ ←
17:03:26 <ShaneM> manu: let's shift some of this discussion to the mailing list and get input from others
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: let's shift some of this discussion to the mailing list and get input from others ←
17:03:57 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
Unknown Ivan_Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
17:03:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html ivan
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html ivan ←
17:03:58 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
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17:04:01 <Zakim> -Steven
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17:04:44 <manu> ShaneM: Here's are all the magic commands you'll ever need to know about scribing - http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide
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Unknown ShaneM: Here's are all the magic commands you'll ever need to know about scribing - http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ] ←
17:04:53 <Zakim> -manu
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17:04:54 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
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17:04:56 <Zakim> Attendees were manu, Ivan, ShaneM, Steven, markbirbeck
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17:05:18 <manu> Present+ Steven_Pemberton, Mark_Birbeck
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17:05:35 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:05:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html manu
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17:21:15 <manu> zakim, bye
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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-actions.rdf : ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] --done [1]
ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] --done [1] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-03-32
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-03-32 ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [2]
ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] [2] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-07
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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action04] [3]
ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04] [3] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-24
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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [4]
ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [recorded in ACTION-05]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-05] [4] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-36
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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]on07! [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [5]
ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in ACTION-07]on07!">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]on07! [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [5] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-44
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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. [6]
ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. [6] ←
17:21:17 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-29-00
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