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14:35:26 <msporny> zakim, this will be rdfa
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Unknown msporny: zakim, this will be rdfa ←
14:35:26 <Zakim> ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 25 minutes
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14:35:49 <msporny> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jun/0010.html
14:36:02 <msporny> previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html
14:43:17 <msporny> Meeting: RDF in XHTML Task Force
14:43:36 <msporny> Chair: Manu_Sporny
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14:43:51 <msporny> rrsagent, make log public
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14:43:58 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes
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Unknown msporny: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:43:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-minutes.html msporny
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14:50:42 <msporny> present: Shane_McCarron, Manu_Sporny
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14:50:58 <msporny> regrets: Ben_Adida, Michael_Hausenblas, Mark_Birbeck
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14:59:30 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
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14:59:37 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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14:59:51 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
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15:00:18 <ShaneM> huh - we don't use trackbot? I thought we did
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Unknown ShaneM: huh - we don't use trackbot? I thought we did ←
15:00:39 <msporny> uhh, I don't think we use trackbot?
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Unknown msporny: uhh, I don't think we use trackbot? ←
15:01:37 <msporny> Hi sam :)
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Unknown msporny: Hi sam :) ←
15:01:41 <rubys> Hi!
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Unknown rubys: Hi! ←
15:02:00 <msporny> want to join us on the call... it's a very small group today.
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Unknown msporny: want to join us on the call... it's a very small group today. ←
15:02:34 <msporny> s/call\.\.\./call\?/
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Unknown msporny: s/call\.\.\./call\?/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:03:28 <Zakim> +Sam
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15:03:47 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, who is here? ←
15:03:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, Sam
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15:03:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see rubys, trackbot, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, msporny
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15:04:38 <msporny> brt, phone issues.
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Unknown msporny: brt, phone issues. ←
15:04:38 <ShaneM> trackbot, leave
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Unknown ShaneM: trackbot, leave ←
15:05:18 <Zakim> + +1.540.641.aaaa
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15:05:46 <msporny> zakim, I am 1.540.641.aaaa
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Unknown msporny: zakim, I am 1.540.641.aaaa ←
15:05:51 <Zakim> sorry, msporny, I do not see a party named '1.540.641.aaaa'
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15:05:55 <msporny> zakim, I am +1.540.641.aaaa
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Unknown msporny: zakim, I am +1.540.641.aaaa ←
15:05:55 <Zakim> +msporny; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +msporny; got it ←
15:08:15 <Zakim> +Ralph
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15:08:59 <Ralph> scribe: Ralph
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15:09:14 <Ralph> zakim, who's on the call?
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zakim, who's on the call? ←
15:09:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, Sam, msporny, Ralph
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ShaneM, Sam, msporny, Ralph ←
15:09:52 <Ralph> [apologies for arriving late]
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[apologies for arriving late] ←
15:09:54 <msporny> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
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Unknown msporny: http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary ←
15:10:06 <Ralph> Topic: Action Review
15:10:24 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to author wiki page with charter template for RDFa IG. Manu to provide support where needed. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to author wiki page with charter template for RDFa IG. Manu to provide support where needed. [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-10] ←
15:10:33 <msporny> http://rdfa.info/wiki/Rdfa-ig-charter
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Unknown msporny: http://rdfa.info/wiki/Rdfa-ig-charter ←
15:11:04 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Manu to go through and categorize issues and requirements that we should address going forward. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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[DONE] ACTION: Manu to go through and categorize issues and requirements that we should address going forward. [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
15:11:10 <msporny> http://rdfa.info/wiki/Rdfa-in-html-issues#RDFa_Task_Force_Discussion_Order
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Unknown msporny: http://rdfa.info/wiki/Rdfa-in-html-issues#RDFa_Task_Force_Discussion_Order ←
15:11:53 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph make a request for an RDFa issue tracker instance [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph make a request for an RDFa issue tracker instance [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←
15:12:00 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
15:12:16 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] ←
15:12:22 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
15:12:30 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←
15:12:35 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-13]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-13] ←
15:12:43 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←
15:12:52 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] ←
15:12:58 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in ACTION-15]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-15] ←
15:14:05 <msporny> scribe: msporny
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(Scribe set to Unknown msporny)
15:14:10 <msporny> Topic: Ralph to discuss issue-214
15:14:25 <ShaneM> agenda+ Copyright for W3C Test Suites
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Unknown ShaneM: agenda+ Copyright for W3C Test Suites ←
15:14:36 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214 issue-2314
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214 ISSUE-214 ←
15:14:42 <Ralph> s/2314/214
15:15:02 <msporny> Ralph: This issue was a comment that came during SKOS implementation.
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Unknown Ralph: This issue was a comment that came during SKOS implementation. ←
15:15:22 <msporny> Ralph: The WG decided that it was more of an editorial question for RDFa TF to consider.
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Unknown Ralph: The WG decided that it was more of an editorial question for RDFa TF to consider. ←
15:15:49 <msporny> Ralph: There has been a long thread, Ben's aware of the thread...
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Unknown Ralph: There has been a long thread, Ben's aware of the thread... ←
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15:16:09 <ShaneM> sorry coming back
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Unknown ShaneM: sorry coming back ←
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15:17:54 <msporny> Ralph: We should consider providing community advice in the case where the same URI should be a piece of an RDF vocabulary or a target in an HTML document.
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Unknown Ralph: We might consider providing community advice in the case where the same URI might be a piece of an RDF vocabulary or a target in an HTML document. ←
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15:18:51 <Ralph> s/should/might
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15:19:38 <msporny> Ralph: In the case where the mimetype of the document is HTML, or application/rdf+xhtml
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Unknown Ralph: In the case where the mimetype of the document is HTML, or application/rdf+xml ←
15:20:13 <msporny> s/rdf+xhtml/rdf+xml/
15:20:34 <msporny> Ralph: in the case of RDFa, it's not so clear that an application can disambiguate between the two types of documents.
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Unknown Ralph: in the case of RDFa, it's not so clear that an application can disambiguate between the two types of documents. ←
15:21:05 <msporny> Ralph: You should not use the same URI for the name in an HTML document as well as a term in an RDF vocabulary.
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Unknown Ralph: You should not use the same URI for the name in an HTML document as well as a term in an RDF vocabulary. ←
15:21:21 <ShaneM> q+ to talk about fragment identifiers
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Unknown ShaneM: q+ to talk about fragment identifiers ←
15:21:45 <msporny> Ralph: People shouldn't do <p id="foo" about="#foo">
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Unknown Ralph: People shouldn't do <p id="foo" about="#foo"> ←
15:22:00 <msporny> ShaneM: I disagree
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Unknown ShaneM: I disagree ←
15:22:15 <msporny> ShaneM: The whole point of RDFa is to embed things in this way.
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Unknown ShaneM: The whole point of RDFa is to embed things in this way. ←
15:22:36 <msporny> ShaneM: I have a URI, which is interpreted in the context of the HTTP request header.
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Unknown ShaneM: I have a URI, which is interpreted in the context of the HTTP request header. ←
15:23:00 <msporny> ShaneM: A semantic web application will follow-your-nose that should take you to the definition of a vocabulary item.
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Unknown ShaneM: A semantic web application will follow-your-nose that should take you to the definition of a vocabulary item. ←
15:23:06 <msporny> ShaneM: I'm going to prefer xml+rdf
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Unknown ShaneM: I'm going to prefer xml+rdf ←
15:23:30 <msporny> ShaneM: from a content negotiation perspective, the server should send back what the requester wants.
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Unknown ShaneM: from a content negotiation perspective, the server should send back what the requester wants. ←
15:23:58 <msporny> ShaneM: If the request is rdf+xml, then it should extract the triples from the XHTML document and send those back as rdf+xml.
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Unknown ShaneM: If the request is rdf+xml, then it should extract the triples from the XHTML document and send those back as rdf+xml. ←
15:24:04 <msporny> Ralph: Interesting point.
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Unknown Ralph: Interesting point. ←
15:24:18 <msporny> Ralph: The old advice might not matter as much anymore?
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Unknown Ralph: The old advice might not matter as much anymore? ←
15:24:33 <msporny> Ralph: Eric Proudhommeaux (sp?) might have something to say about this.
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Unknown Ralph: Eric Prudhommeaux (sp?) might have something to say about this. ←
15:26:40 <Ralph> Ralph: there might be use cases where the subject of a triple might well want to be a particular bit of HTML markup
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Unknown Ralph: there might be use cases where the subject of a triple might well want to be a particular bit of HTML markup [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:26:52 <Ralph> s/Proud/Prud
15:27:09 <Ralph> Manu: might be something to handle in a validator
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: might be something to handle in a validator [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:27:20 <Ralph> scribenick: ralph
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15:27:41 <Ralph> Manu: people might do id='foo' and about='foo' when they're doing vocabulary authoring
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: people might do id='foo' and about='foo' when they're doing vocabulary authoring [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:28:03 <Ralph> ... it's nice to be able to drop a vocabulary term into a Web browser and see a document
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Unknown Ralph: ... it's nice to be able to drop a vocabulary term into a Web browser and see a document ←
15:28:25 <msporny> Ralph: How can we say something about the ID "foo" <p id="foo" about="#foo"> and not the about="#foo"
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Unknown Ralph: How can we say something about the ID "foo" <p id="foo" about="#foo"> and not the about="#foo" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown msporny ] ←
15:28:44 <Ralph> Shane: and XML requires something of type ID in order for the fragment to be valie
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: and XML requires something of type ID in order for the fragment to be valie [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:29:26 <Ralph> ... in general, id='foo' about='foo' always occurs when you want to bind triples to a block in a document
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Unknown Ralph: ... in general, id='foo' about='foo' always occurs when you want to bind triples to a block in a document ←
15:29:35 <Ralph> ... particularly in definitions of terms
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Unknown Ralph: ... particularly in definitions of terms ←
15:29:57 <Ralph> ... when referring to a local definition of a term you'd have an ID and you'd bind to it using @about
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Unknown Ralph: ... when referring to a local definition of a term you'd have an ID and you'd bind to it using @about ←
15:30:04 <Ralph> ... you might also refer to it in @resource
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Unknown Ralph: ... you might also refer to it in @resource ←
15:31:34 <Ralph> Manu: maybe we should create a Wiki page and develop a best practice in this area
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: maybe we should create a Wiki page and develop a best practice in this area [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:31:58 <Ralph> ACTION: Manu create a wiki page for discussion of issue-214
ACTION: Manu create a wiki page for discussion of ISSUE-214 ←
15:32:54 <Ralph> zakim, next item
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, next item ←
15:32:54 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Copyright for W3C Test Suites" taken up [from ShaneM]
15:33:28 <Ralph> Shane: looking for advice on what are acceptable test suite copyrights
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: looking for advice on what are acceptable test suite copyrights [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:33:41 <Ralph> Manu: specifically, is the MIT license sufficient?
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: specifically, is the MIT license sufficient? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:34:04 <Ralph> ACTION: Ralph find the statement on test suite copyright
ACTION: Ralph find the statement on test suite copyright ←
15:34:22 <rubys> in general, MIT licensed code can be pulled into almost any codebase; the reverse is not necessarily true
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Unknown rubys: in general, MIT licensed code can be pulled into almost any codebase; the reverse is not necessarily true ←
15:34:51 <Ralph> Topic: Discussion order for HTML+RDFa issues
15:34:52 <msporny> http://rdfa.info/wiki/rdfa-in-html-issues#RDFa_Task_Force_Discussion_Order
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Unknown msporny: http://rdfa.info/wiki/rdfa-in-html-issues#RDFa_Task_Force_Discussion_Order ←
15:35:12 <Ralph> Manu: I'd taken action to propose a discussion order
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: I'd taken action to propose a discussion order [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:36:24 <Ralph> Sam: suggest moving " Requirement: RDFa signalling mechanism for XHTML+RDFa, HTML+RDFa, and how does mime-type affect that mechanism?" higher
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Unknown Sam: suggest moving " Requirement: RDFa signalling mechanism for XHTML+RDFa, HTML+RDFa, and how does mime-type affect that mechanism?" higher [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:36:46 <Ralph> ... figure out what the signalling mechanism is
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Unknown Ralph: ... figure out what the signalling mechanism is ←
15:37:19 <Ralph> ... html served as text/xml is interpreted differently by different browsers
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Unknown Ralph: ... html served as text/xml is interpreted differently by different browsers ←
15:38:01 <Ralph> Manu: propose to move the signalling discussion after "target of RDFa processing rules" and before "Do we need to cut features from RDFa to support HTML+RDFa?"
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: propose to move the signalling discussion after "target of RDFa processing rules" and before "Do we need to cut features from RDFa to support HTML+RDFa?" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:38:05 <Ralph> Shane: fine with me
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: fine with me [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:38:26 <Ralph> ... some of these items have been raised in email but I'm not persuaded they're really issues
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Unknown Ralph: ... some of these items have been raised in email but I'm not persuaded they're really issues ←
15:39:19 <Ralph> Manu: so move "RDFa signalling mechanism" to 2nd position
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: so move "RDFa signalling mechanism" to 2nd position [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:39:22 <Ralph> Ralph: ok with me
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Unknown Ralph: ok with me [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:39:31 <rubys> if they aren't really issues, they should be able to be disposed of quickly.
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Unknown rubys: if they aren't really issues, they should be able to be disposed of quickly. ←
15:39:37 <Ralph> Topic: Start "Target of RDFa Processing Rules" discussion
15:39:47 <msporny> http://rdfa.info/wiki/rdfa-in-html-issues#The_target_of_RDFa_processing_rules
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Unknown msporny: http://rdfa.info/wiki/rdfa-in-html-issues#The_target_of_RDFa_processing_rules ←
15:40:25 <Ralph> Manu: question is "on what do the RDFa processing rules operate?"
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: question is "on what do the RDFa processing rules operate?" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:40:49 <Ralph> ... e.g. on a DOM structure [or not]
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Unknown Ralph: ... e.g. on a DOM structure [or not] ←
15:41:02 <Ralph> ... now we're trying to explain how this works across all languages
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Unknown Ralph: ... now we're trying to explain how this works across all languages ←
15:41:10 <Ralph> ... and generate the same triples across all document [types]
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Unknown Ralph: ... and generate the same triples across all document [types] ←
15:41:21 <Ralph> ... gets tricky when accounting for serialization issues
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Unknown Ralph: ... gets tricky when accounting for serialization issues ←
15:41:49 <Ralph> ... goal is to find a set of rules that works on a parse tree or an abstract syntax tree rather than on a DOM
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Unknown Ralph: ... goal is to find a set of rules that works on a parse tree or an abstract syntax tree rather than on a DOM ←
15:42:08 <Ralph> ... so define the rules in a way not based on serialization of a specific language
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Unknown Ralph: ... so define the rules in a way not based on serialization of a specific language ←
15:42:26 <Ralph> Shane: Mark has a clever way of thinking about this
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: Mark has a clever way of thinking about this [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:42:51 <Ralph> ... and is very persuasive :)
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Unknown Ralph: ... and is very persuasive :) ←
15:43:25 <Ralph> ... as I understand it, Mark's model is that RDFa is at the application layer so whatever the underlying layer provides to the application is what should be worked on
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Unknown Ralph: ... as I understand it, Mark's model is that RDFa is at the application layer so whatever the underlying layer provides to the application is what should be worked on ←
15:43:51 <Ralph> ... this solves the RDFa specification problem but doesn't solve the "I want the same triples when I give the same document content to different things"
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Unknown Ralph: ... this solves the RDFa specification problem but doesn't solve the "I want the same triples when I give the same document content to different things" ←
15:44:11 <Ralph> ... I don't see how we can control the structure of the _input_ to RDFa in a meaningful way
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Unknown Ralph: ... I don't see how we can control the structure of the _input_ to RDFa in a meaningful way ←
15:44:32 <Ralph> ... will happen differently in legacy browsers, HTML5, new browsers, etc.
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Unknown Ralph: ... will happen differently in legacy browsers, HTML5, new browsers, etc. ←
15:44:49 <Ralph> ... I'm not optimistic that we'll find a way to guarantee the same triples everywhere
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Unknown Ralph: ... I'm not optimistic that we'll find a way to guarantee the same triples everywhere ←
15:45:16 <Ralph> Sam: if we can find a subset that _does_ give the same triples and note the other cases with a recommendation not to to those
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Unknown Sam: if we can find a subset that _does_ give the same triples and note the other cases with a recommendation not to to those [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:45:35 <Ralph> ... can't assume that the consumer respects the well-formed input requirement
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Unknown Ralph: ... can't assume that the consumer respects the well-formed input requirement ←
15:45:45 <Ralph> ... this requirement is routinely ignored
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Unknown Ralph: ... this requirement is routinely ignored ←
15:45:59 <Ralph> Shane: ignored by user agents but not by tool chain processors
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: ignored by user agents but not by tool chain processors [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:46:26 <Ralph> Sam: wise to accept that some people will be processing this in browsers and give advice on what won't work there
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Unknown Sam: wise to accept that some people will be processing this in browsers and give advice on what won't work there [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:46:49 <Ralph> Shane: I do think we can restrict the language so that it has more predictable behaviours under different processing models
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: I do think we can restrict the language so that it has more predictable behaviours under different processing models [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:47:10 <Ralph> Sam: e.g. if a single document has two names that differ only in case, that's probably wierd and don't do it
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Unknown Sam: e.g. if a single document has two names that differ only in case, that's probably wierd and don't do it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:47:35 <Ralph> Shane: yep, we just never considered that case in our prior discussions
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: yep, we just never considered that case in our prior discussions [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:47:51 <Ralph> Manu: the test cases put on the mailing list are really good starting points
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: the test cases put on the mailing list are really good starting points [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:48:28 <Ralph> ... we should be clear about what model the RDFa rules are operating on but I do not see a reason to strip out any rules
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Unknown Ralph: ... we should be clear about what model the RDFa rules are operating on but I do not see a reason to strip out any rules ←
15:49:13 <Ralph> ... Mark's position is that we can't control the input to the RDFa processing rules
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Unknown Ralph: ... Mark's position is that we can't control the input to the RDFa processing rules ←
15:49:30 <Ralph> ... we can't control how things get put into a DOM; that's in the domain of the HTML WG
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Unknown Ralph: ... we can't control how things get put into a DOM; that's in the domain of the HTML WG ←
15:49:47 <Ralph> ... so the RDFa processing rules ought to be restated in terms of _some_ incoming model
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Unknown Ralph: ... so the RDFa processing rules ought to be restated in terms of _some_ incoming model ←
15:50:16 <Ralph> ... RDFa might be used in something that has nothing to do with a DOM
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Unknown Ralph: ... RDFa might be used in something that has nothing to do with a DOM ←
15:50:30 <Ralph> ... not a good idea to restrict RDFa to just a DOM
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Unknown Ralph: ... not a good idea to restrict RDFa to just a DOM ←
15:51:37 <Ralph> ... if you run an HTML document through two different processors, one producing a DOM and the other not then I don't see how we can guarantee in all cases to produce the same triples
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Unknown Ralph: ... if you run an HTML document through two different processors, one producing a DOM and the other not then I don't see how we can guarantee in all cases to produce the same triples ←
15:51:55 <rubys> I agree with DOM as the answer to question #1... the problem is that Drupal is producing content with RDFa, and depending on the user agent, it may be processed differently. If you look at Phillip's tests there will be cases where they answers will differ, and some of these can't be solved. In some cases, the answer may be "don't do that". Example: if you define an XML literal and serve the content as text/html, be sure that you don't define any content that HTM
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Unknown rubys: I agree with DOM as the answer to question #1... the problem is that Drupal is producing content with RDFa, and depending on the user agent, it may be processed differently. If you look at Phillip's tests there will be cases where they answers will differ, and some of these can't be solved. In some cases, the answer may be "don't do that". Example: if you define an XML literal and serve the content as text/html, be sure that you don't define any content that HTM ←
15:52:27 <Ralph> ... they _might_ be the same in some cases but I don't think we should try to guarantee the same triples in all cases
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Unknown Ralph: ... they _might_ be the same in some cases but I don't think we should try to guarantee the same triples in all cases ←
15:53:53 <Ralph> Shane: from personal experience, some of our tests produced foreign elements that were removed from the DOM tree I was handed
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: from personal experience, some of our tests produced foreign elements that were removed from the DOM tree I was handed [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:54:04 <rubys> ... that HTML5 processing rules will reorder or change in a way that can't be addressed by the parser.
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Unknown rubys: ... that HTML5 processing rules will reorder or change in a way that can't be addressed by the parser. ←
15:54:09 <Ralph> ... I don't have control over this; I can only work on what I'm handed
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Unknown Ralph: ... I don't have control over this; I can only work on what I'm handed ←
15:54:43 <Ralph> Manu: can we come up with an example that shows how a well-formed document would generate different triples?
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: can we come up with an example that shows how a well-formed document would generate different triples? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:55:07 <Ralph> Shane: comes up when embedding foreign stuff, e.g. SVG -- the SVG simply doesn't show up in the DOM
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: comes up when embedding foreign stuff, e.g. SVG -- the SVG simply doesn't show up in the DOM [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:55:18 <Ralph> ... there could be RDFa annotations on the SVG but I've lost them
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Unknown Ralph: ... there could be RDFa annotations on the SVG but I've lost them ←
15:55:54 <msporny> Thanks for joining us Sam :)
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Unknown msporny: Thanks for joining us Sam :) ←
15:55:58 <msporny> and for your input.
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Unknown msporny: and for your input. ←
15:55:59 <Ralph> ... the XML literal case may well be the most glaring example
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Unknown Ralph: ... the XML literal case may well be the most glaring example ←
15:56:13 <Ralph> ... there are several ways to address this and I don't have a strong preference for which we pick
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Unknown Ralph: ... there are several ways to address this and I don't have a strong preference for which we pick ←
15:56:26 <Ralph> ... I sort-of like Mark's suggestion to change the default to not be an XML literal
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Unknown Ralph: ... I sort-of like Mark's suggestion to change the default to not be an XML literal ←
15:56:42 <Ralph> ... so you'd only produce an XML literal in a triple when you explicitly ask for one
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Unknown Ralph: ... so you'd only produce an XML literal in a triple when you explicitly ask for one ←
15:57:07 <Ralph> Manu: the side-effect of making it not automatically an XML literal is that it will process the content
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: the side-effect of making it not automatically an XML literal is that it will process the content [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:57:25 <Zakim> -Sam
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15:57:34 <Ralph> ... e.g. <spam about='foo'> inside the content would cause triples to be generated
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Unknown Ralph: ... e.g. <spam about='foo'> inside the content would cause triples to be generated ←
15:57:38 <Ralph> Shane: that's probably a corner case
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: that's probably a corner case [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:57:53 <Ralph> ... easier to change behavior sooner than later
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Unknown Ralph: ... easier to change behavior sooner than later ←
15:58:13 <Ralph> Manu: the reason for a change is to make XML literals the same between HTML and XHTML
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Unknown Manu_Sporny: the reason for a change is to make XML literals the same between HTML and XHTML [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:58:47 <Ralph> ... but there's a parallel discussion suggesting that it may be OK for the triples to differ given different input
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Unknown Ralph: ... but there's a parallel discussion suggesting that it may be OK for the triples to differ given different input ←
15:59:14 <Ralph> Shane: the core issue here is whether it makes any sense to generate XML literals in a non-XML context
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Unknown Shane_McCarron: the core issue here is whether it makes any sense to generate XML literals in a non-XML context [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:59:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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16:00:04 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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16:00:07 <Zakim> -Ralph
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16:00:13 <Ralph> present+ Sam_Ruby
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Unknown Ralph: present+ Sam_Ruby ←
16:00:16 <Zakim> -msporny
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16:00:18 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
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16:00:19 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, Sam, +1.540.641.aaaa, msporny, Ralph
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16:00:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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16:01:07 <Ralph> present+ Ralph_Swick
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Unknown Ralph: present+ Ralph_Swick ←
16:01:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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16:01:37 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, bye ←
16:01:40 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, bye ←
16:01:40 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-actions.rdf : ←
16:01:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu create a wiki page for discussion of issue-214 [1]
ACTION: Manu create a wiki page for discussion of ISSUE-214 [1] ←
16:01:40 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-irc#T15-31-58
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-irc#T15-31-58 ←
16:01:40 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph find the statement on test suite copyright [2]
ACTION: Ralph find the statement on test suite copyright [2] ←
16:01:40 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/04-rdfa-irc#T15-34-04
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