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Minutes of 03 July 2008

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Jul/0000.html
Present
Unknown Manu_Sporny, Unknown Michael_Hausenblas, Unknown Steven_Pemberton, Unknown Shane_McCarron
Regrets
Unknown Mark_Birbeck
Chair
Unknown Adida
Scribe
Unknown Sporny, Unknown msporny
Previous Meeting
http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html
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14:46:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc

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14:47:39 <msporny> zakim, this is SW_SWD(RDFa)

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Unknown msporny: zakim, this is SW_SWD(RDFa)

14:47:39 <Zakim> msporny, I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)".

Zakim IRC Bot: msporny, I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)".

14:47:45 <msporny> zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)

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Unknown msporny: zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)

14:47:45 <Zakim> ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes

14:48:45 <msporny> Meeting: RDF in XHTML TaskForce
14:48:52 <msporny> Chair: Ben

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14:49:00 <msporny> Scribe: Manu Sporny

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14:49:03 <msporny> Chair: Ben Adida

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14:49:15 <msporny> rrsagent, make log public

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Unknown msporny: rrsagent, make log public

14:49:21 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes

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Unknown msporny: rrsagent, draft minutes

14:49:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html msporny

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14:49:54 <msporny> ScribeNick: msporny

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14:51:04 <msporny> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Jul/0000.html
14:51:36 <msporny> previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html
14:51:50 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes

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rrsagent, draft minutes

14:51:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html msporny

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14:54:29 <mhausenblas> heya everyone

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Unknown mhausenblas: heya everyone

14:57:02 <msporny> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

14:57:03 <msporny> :)

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:)

14:57:55 <msporny>            ,,,,,

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,,,,,

14:57:55 <msporny>           _|||||_

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_|||||_

14:57:55 <msporny>          {~*~*~*~}

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{~*~*~*~}

14:57:55 <msporny>        __{*~*~*~*}__

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__{*~*~*~*}__

14:57:57 <msporny>       `-------------`

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14:59:20 <mhausenblas> ta Manu :)

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Unknown mhausenblas: ta Manu :)

14:59:41 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

14:59:42 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:59:50 <msporny> zakim, I am ??p13

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zakim, I am ??p13

14:59:50 <Zakim> +msporny; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +msporny; got it

15:00:06 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22

15:00:08 <Zakim> -??P22

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15:00:08 <Zakim> +??P22

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15:00:17 <Zakim> +Michael_Hausenblas

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15:00:24 <ShaneM> zakim, ??p22 is ShaneM

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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, ??p22 is ShaneM

15:00:24 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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15:00:44 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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Unknown Steven: zakim, dial steven-617

15:00:44 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made

15:00:46 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

15:01:40 <msporny> Present: Manu_Sporny, Michael_Hausenblas, Steven_Pemberton, Shane_McCarron

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15:03:35 <mhausenblas> I'd like to shortly talk about the Primer re 'link to full example'

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Unknown mhausenblas: I'd like to shortly talk about the Primer re 'link to full example'

15:03:44 <msporny> Present+ Ralph_Swick

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Present+ Ralph_Swick

15:03:57 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes

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rrsagent, draft minutes

15:03:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html msporny

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15:04:19 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/alice-example.html Full example from RDFa Primer

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/alice-example.html Full example from RDFa Primer

15:05:07 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida

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15:05:41 <Zakim> +Ralph

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15:06:00 <mhausenblas> Ben, just pointed out the Primer full example stuff

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Unknown mhausenblas: Ben, just pointed out the Primer full example stuff

15:06:08 <markbirbeck> I've just emailed my apologies. :(

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Unknown markbirbeck: I've just emailed my apologies. :(

15:06:12 <markbirbeck> Will stay on IRC, though.

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Unknown markbirbeck: Will stay on IRC, though.

15:06:21 <markbirbeck> Happy birthday Michael! :)

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Unknown markbirbeck: Happy birthday Michael! :)

15:06:27 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/alice-example.html

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Unknown mhausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/alice-example.html

15:06:33 <msporny> Regrets: Mark_Birbeck

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15:07:12 <mhausenblas> manu++

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Unknown mhausenblas: manu++

15:07:33 <msporny> Topic: Action Items

1. Action Items

15:08:20 <msporny> [NEW] ACTION: Manu check edit permissions on rdfa.info/wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]

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[DONE] ACTION: Manu check edit permissions on rdfa.info/wiki [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-10]

15:08:31 <Ralph> s/NEW/DONE
15:08:37 <msporny> -- DONE

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-- DONE

15:08:55 <Ralph> Manu: the wiki doesn't allow you to edit until you verify your email address

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: the wiki doesn't allow you to edit until you verify your email address [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:09:06 <msporny> ShaneM: That's correct.

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Unknown ShaneM: That's correct.

15:09:39 <msporny> ACTION: Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

ACTION: Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

15:09:42 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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-- CONTINUES

15:10:00 <msporny> Manu: This is continuing

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: This is continuing

15:10:03 <msporny> ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03]

15:10:13 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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-- CONTINUES

15:10:34 <msporny> benadida: You should coordinate with Digg folks to see if you can come up with a vocab term for community rating.

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Unknown benadida: You should coordinate with Digg folks to see if you can come up with a vocab term for community rating.

15:10:51 <msporny> benadida: if they agree on that, then we can write a cool searchmonkey addition based on that.

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Unknown benadida: if they agree on that, then we can write a cool searchmonkey addition based on that.

15:11:02 <mhausenblas> -> http://danja.talis.com/xmlns/rev_2007-11-09/index.html

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://danja.talis.com/xmlns/rev_2007-11-09/index.html

15:11:03 <msporny> benadida: Either find the right one or pick a new one.

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Unknown benadida: Either find the right one or pick a new one.

15:11:18 <msporny> Michael: Yes, one kinda exists... check talis.com first.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: Yes, one kinda exists... check talis.com first.

15:11:41 <Steven> q+

Unknown Steven_Pemberton: q+

15:12:04 <msporny> Steven: wanted to talk about vocabularies for a bit.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: wanted to talk about vocabularies for a bit.

15:12:14 <msporny> Steven: got a comment about vevent blog post I did.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: got a comment about vevent blog post I did.

15:12:25 <msporny> Michael: It was Yves, right?

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: It was Yves, right?

15:12:42 <msporny> Steven: yes, my question is I'm assuming that we want some standard vocabularies.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: yes, my question is I'm assuming that we want some standard vocabularies.

15:13:04 <msporny> Steven: Using location for a TV channel?

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: Using location for a TV channel?

15:13:18 <msporny> Steven: So VCARD location for a TV program should be in the LOCATION field?

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: So VCARD location for a TV program should be in the LOCATION field?

15:13:46 <msporny> ShaneM: What's the datatype for location?

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Unknown ShaneM: What's the datatype for location?

15:13:52 <msporny> Steven: It's string.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: It's string.

15:13:59 <msporny> ShaneM: If it's a string, do whatever you want, right?

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Unknown ShaneM: If it's a string, do whatever you want, right?

15:14:06 <msporny> Ralph: don't know if that's best.

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Unknown Ralph: think that represents the designer's intent

15:14:23 <msporny> Steven: You don't quite have the right semantics if you go that route.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: You don't quite have the right semantics if you go that route.

15:15:11 <Ralph> Manu: one option that has been used is to permit either a string or a typed value

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: one option that has been used is to permit either a string or a typed value [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:15:36 <Ralph> s/ don't know if that's best./ think that represents the designer's intent
15:15:49 <Ralph> s/ think/don't think/
15:15:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

15:15:59 <msporny> Michael: I know Yves, we could talk with him a bit?

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: I know Yves, we could talk with him a bit?

15:16:10 <msporny> benadida: It would be good to continue discussion with Yves.

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Unknown benadida: It would be good to continue discussion with Yves.

15:16:34 <msporny> benadida: These discussions tend to be very long, because we're talking about vocabularies.

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Unknown benadida: These discussions tend to be very long, because we're talking about vocabularies.

15:16:56 <ShaneM> q+ to discuss vocabulary evolution

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Unknown ShaneM: q+ to discuss vocabulary evolution

15:17:21 <Ralph> Manu: people aren't necessarily going to understand the nuances of the semantics and will simply put in whatever strings they feel fit

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: people aren't necessarily going to understand the nuances of the semantics and will simply put in whatever strings they feel fit [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:17:32 <mhausenblas> q+

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Unknown mhausenblas: q+

15:17:37 <Ralph> ... requiring specific data types will make the vocabular less accessible

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Unknown Ralph: ... requiring specific data types will make the vocabular less accessible

15:17:48 <Ralph> ... microformats try to make things easiest to use

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Unknown Ralph: ... microformats try to make things easiest to use

15:18:11 <Ralph> ... strings have no deeper interpretation; you are permitted to put whatever you want in a string

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Unknown Ralph: ... strings have no deeper interpretation; you are permitted to put whatever you want in a string

15:18:12 <msporny> benadida: The right approach would be to have experts figure it out.

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Unknown benadida: The right approach would be to have experts figure it out.

15:18:46 <msporny> ShaneM: I disagree a bit - we don't have to figure this stuff out.

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Unknown ShaneM: I disagree a bit - we don't have to figure this stuff out.

15:18:50 <mhausenblas> +1

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Unknown mhausenblas: +1

15:19:00 <msporny> benadida: People are still going to look to us to write up vocabularies.

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Unknown benadida: People are still going to look to us to write up vocabularies.

15:19:13 <msporny> benadida: I agree in principle, but we have to bootstrap this somehow.

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Unknown benadida: I agree in principle, but we have to bootstrap this somehow.

15:19:39 <msporny> q+

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q+

15:19:48 <mhausenblas> ack ShaneM

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Unknown mhausenblas: ack ShaneM

15:19:48 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to discuss vocabulary evolution

Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, you wanted to discuss vocabulary evolution

15:20:25 <msporny> ShaneM: how does ontology discovery works?

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Unknown ShaneM: how does ontology discovery works?

15:20:44 <msporny> benadida: Michael is the mechanical turk behind ontology discovery.

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Unknown benadida: Michael is the mechanical turk behind ontology discovery.

15:21:02 <mhausenblas> ack me

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Unknown mhausenblas: ack me

15:21:25 <msporny> Michael: I do agree with Shane, we have to focus on what we're doing - RDFa, not vocabularies.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: I do agree with Shane, we have to focus on what we're doing - RDFa, not vocabularies.

15:21:41 <msporny> Michael: If you have further information, talk to the vocab authors.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: If you have further information, talk to the vocab authors.

15:21:58 <msporny> Michael: we have to let people understand that there are certain contraints.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: we have to let people understand that there are certain contraints.

15:22:23 <mhausenblas> ack msporny

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Unknown mhausenblas: ack msporny

15:23:05 <Ralph> Manu: these questions are general; "what do we mean by 'location'" is a question that's not specific to just one vocabulary

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: these questions are general; "what do we mean by 'location'" is a question that's not specific to just one vocabulary [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:23:28 <Ralph> ... to get specific semantics, give people the option to use multiple datatypes

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Unknown Ralph: ... to get specific semantics, give people the option to use multiple datatypes

15:23:41 <Ralph> ... the microformats community has dealt with this mostly by ignoring it

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Unknown Ralph: ... the microformats community has dealt with this mostly by ignoring it

15:25:36 <msporny> ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12]

15:25:39 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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15:26:01 <Ralph> [[

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Unknown Ralph: [[

15:26:01 <msporny> ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]

ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]

15:26:01 <Ralph> Manu: next can think about some javascript tools to generate the markup for some of these

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: next can think about some javascript tools to generate the markup for some of these [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:26:01 <Ralph> ... would be nice to have a unified architecture to create these wizards

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Unknown Ralph: ... would be nice to have a unified architecture to create these wizards

15:26:01 <Ralph> ... is there something already in existence we could use for this?

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Unknown Ralph: ... is there something already in existence we could use for this?

15:26:02 <Ralph> ]]

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Unknown Ralph: ]]

15:26:08 <Ralph> -- http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12

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Unknown Ralph: -- ACTION-12">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12

15:26:19 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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15:26:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

15:27:14 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11]

15:27:18 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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15:27:27 <msporny> ACTION: Shane write geolocation examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: Shane write geolocation examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09]

15:28:28 <ShaneM> http://rdfa.info/wiki/Geo-tutorial

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Unknown ShaneM: http://rdfa.info/wiki/Geo-tutorial

15:29:53 <mhausenblas> Michael: deployment  is the 'only' important thing, e.g. in http://www.geonames.org/

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: deployment is the 'only' important thing, e.g. in http://www.geonames.org/ [ Scribe Assist by Unknown mhausenblas ]

15:31:52 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-20071023/ "Geospatial Vocabulary" (W3C Incubator Group Report)

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-20071023/ "Geospatial Vocabulary" (W3C Incubator Group Report)

15:32:35 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-ont-20071023/ "Geospatial Ontologies" W3C Incubator Group Report 23 October 2007

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-ont-20071023/ "Geospatial Ontologies" W3C Incubator Group Report 23 October 2007

15:32:46 <msporny> ShaneM: The vocab isn't defined very well.

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Unknown ShaneM: The vocab isn't defined very well.

15:32:56 <msporny> Michael: People will look at the examples not the vocabulary.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: People will look at the examples not the vocabulary.

15:33:10 <msporny> ShaneM: That's fine.

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Unknown ShaneM: That's fine.

15:33:29 <msporny> ShaneM: What about URIs that represent the thing and URIs that represent the web page.

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Unknown ShaneM: What about URIs that represent the thing and URIs that represent the web page.

15:34:01 <msporny> ShaneM: I don't like this distinction - could Steven/Ralph go into the wiki and fix it.

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Unknown ShaneM: I don't like this distinction - could Steven/Ralph go into the wiki and fix it.

15:34:25 <msporny> Michael: It's perfectly right! It's compliant with the linked data principles.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: It's perfectly right! It's compliant with the linked data principles.

15:34:34 <msporny> benadida: We will have to have this discussion at greater length later on.

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Unknown benadida: We will have to have this discussion at greater length later on.

15:35:26 <mhausenblas> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa_vs_RDFXML

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa_vs_RDFXML

15:35:35 <msporny> Michael: There is a page on ESW - if we want to discuss that there, it would be good.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: There is a page on ESW - if we want to discuss that there, it would be good.

15:35:40 <msporny> -- DONE

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-- DONE

15:35:47 <msporny> ACTION: Steven write vevent examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Steven write vevent examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

15:35:49 <msporny> -- DONE

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-- DONE

15:36:25 <msporny> ACTION: Steven to migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki

ACTION: Steven to migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki

15:36:34 <msporny> ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

15:36:52 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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15:37:40 <msporny> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12]

15:39:08 <msporny> -- CONTINUES

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15:39:23 <msporny> Topic: State of CR, Implementations, Review of Process.

2. State of CR, Implementations, Review of Process.

15:39:33 <Steven> CURIEs are going to CR soon too

Unknown Steven_Pemberton: CURIEs are going to CR soon too

15:39:42 <msporny> benadida: CR period ends on July 18th

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Unknown benadida: CR period ends on July 18th

15:40:01 <msporny> benadida: At that point we should have an implementation report with a couple of implementations that are thoroughly documented.

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Unknown benadida: At that point we should have an implementation report with a couple of implementations that are thoroughly documented.

15:40:10 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/

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Unknown mhausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/

15:40:15 <msporny> Michael: We have 3 that are fully compliant.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: We have 3 that are fully compliant.

15:40:24 <msporny> Michael: err, 2 that are fully compliant.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: err, 2 that are fully compliant.

15:40:33 <msporny> Michael: Shark is also fully compliant.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: Shark is also fully compliant.

15:40:51 <msporny> Ralph: That's great that they have another implementation that's done in CR.

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Unknown Ralph: That's great that they have another implementation that's done in CR.

15:41:06 <msporny> Michael: It would be good to have a fully compliant PHP implementation.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: It would be good to have a fully compliant PHP implementation.

15:41:24 <msporny> ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD.

ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD.

15:41:46 <msporny> benadida: How do we integrate Javascript parsers.

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Unknown benadida: How do we integrate Javascript parsers.

15:42:10 <msporny> benadida: Do the test harnesses need to be official? Or do we just need to report on them?

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Unknown benadida: Do the test harnesses need to be official? Or do we just need to report on them?

15:42:18 <msporny> Ralph: I'd like to talk about hosting test harness.

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Unknown Ralph: I'd like to talk about hosting test harness.

15:42:23 <msporny> benadida: Let's do that right now.

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Unknown benadida: Let's do that right now.

15:42:33 <msporny> Ralph: I had suggested to move test harness to W3C.

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Unknown Ralph: I had suggested to move test harness to W3C.

15:42:42 <msporny> Ralph: Everyone seemed to be in agreement.

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Unknown Ralph: Everyone seemed to be in agreement.

15:42:54 <msporny> Ralph: It's not a requirement.

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Unknown Ralph: It's not a requirement.

15:43:10 <msporny> Ralph: Since this is Working Group output, we should archive it.

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Unknown Ralph: Since this is Working Group output, we should archive it.

15:43:31 <msporny> Ralph: We didn't get it moved over in time, Manu sent the harness to me, made an attempt to install it.

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Unknown Ralph: We didn't get it moved over in time, Manu sent the harness to me, made an attempt to install it.

15:43:51 <msporny> Ralph: The question was presented to me as to where it should reside and for how long?

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Unknown Ralph: The question was presented to me as to where it should reside and for how long?

15:44:04 <msporny> Ralph: How long is the test harness useful to the community?

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Unknown Ralph: How long is the test harness useful to the community?

15:44:36 <msporny> Ralph: I said a couple of years...I asked Manu if he has any issues hosting it.

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Unknown Ralph: I said a couple of years...I asked Manu if he has any issues hosting it.

15:44:56 <msporny> Ralph: The two questions are: Does the group have any strong preference for where it's hosted?

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Unknown Ralph: The two questions are: Does the group have any strong preference for where it's hosted?

15:45:06 <msporny> Ralph: Do we think it does need to be hosted for a number of years?

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Unknown Ralph: Do we think it does need to be hosted for a number of years?

15:45:43 <msporny> Michael: The online version could run there, and a version to download.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: The online version could run there, and a version to download.

15:45:48 <msporny> Manu: Yep, no problem hosting.

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: Yep, no problem hosting.

15:46:16 <Ralph> Manu: we have no problem continuing to host the harness

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: we have no problem continuing to host the harness [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

15:46:26 <Ralph> ... also willing to check it in to the W3C CVS repository

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Unknown Ralph: ... also willing to check it in to the W3C CVS repository

15:46:42 <Ralph> ... already available for download

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Unknown Ralph: ... already available for download

15:47:22 <msporny> ShaneM: Easier to maintain if it's kept at Digital Bazaar.

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Unknown ShaneM: Easier to maintain if it's kept at Digital Bazaar.

15:47:29 <msporny> benadida: Could we proxy it?

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Unknown benadida: Could we proxy it?

15:47:58 <msporny> Ralph: We'd rather not proxy to non W3C host.

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Unknown Ralph: We'd rather not proxy to non W3C host.

15:48:16 <msporny> benadida: Okay, are you willing to keep hosting it, Manu?

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Unknown benadida: Okay, are you willing to keep hosting it, Manu?

15:48:18 <msporny> Manu: Yes.

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: Yes.

15:48:32 <msporny> Michael: The only thing I need are the EARL reports.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: The only thing I need are the EARL reports.

15:49:43 <msporny> Manu: Elias wanted EARL report generation to be cleaned up.

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: Elias wanted EARL report generation to be cleaned up.

15:50:08 <msporny> benadida: About the process - is all we need the implementation report?

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Unknown benadida: About the process - is all we need the implementation report?

15:50:20 <msporny> Ralph: We have to respond to all comments and issues.

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Unknown Ralph: We have to respond to all comments and issues.

15:50:36 <msporny> Ralph: The implementation report is the main thing we need.

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Unknown Ralph: The implementation report is the main thing we need.

15:50:51 <msporny> Ralph: It doesn't need to be exhaustive, we just have to show that there are 2 implementations of everything.

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Unknown Ralph: It doesn't need to be exhaustive, we just have to show that there are 2 implementations of everything.

15:51:11 <msporny> Michael: I will be gone at 14th July.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: I will be gone at 14th July.

15:51:43 <msporny> benadida: I'd like to make sure that we include Javascript parsers in final report.

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Unknown benadida: I'd like to make sure that we include Javascript parsers in final report.

15:51:57 <msporny> Ralph: It would be good to document as many as we can - although, it's not essential.

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Unknown Ralph: It would be good to document as many as we can - although, it's not essential.

15:52:04 <msporny> Michael: I'm back on the 25th of July.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: I'm back on the 25th of July.

15:52:27 <msporny> Ralph: if we were to publish PR on Aug 1st, we need to give them 8 weeks to respond.

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Unknown Ralph: if we were to publish PR on Aug 1st, we need to give them 8 weeks to respond.

15:52:53 <msporny> Ralph: Publishing the PR any time in august would push us back to september.

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Unknown Ralph: Publishing the PR any time in august would push us back to september.

15:53:07 <msporny> benadida: Even if we did it on July 21st, it would still push us back that far right?

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Unknown benadida: Even if we did it on July 21st, it would still push us back that far right?

15:53:15 <msporny> Michael: Well, if I'm not here, the XSLT is online.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: Well, if I'm not here, the XSLT is online.

15:53:40 <msporny> benadida: We don't need to rush you back from vacation - let's take a look at what we have on July 18th and aim for August 1st for PR request.

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Unknown benadida: We don't need to rush you back from vacation - let's take a look at what we have on July 18th and aim for August 1st for PR request.

15:54:08 <msporny> benadida: The primer is a note, but people seem to be interested in validation. I feel like adding tweaks on how to validate to the Primer.

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Unknown benadida: The primer is a note, but people seem to be interested in validation. I feel like adding tweaks on how to validate to the Primer.

15:54:14 <msporny> ShaneM: You can do that at any time.

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Unknown ShaneM: You can do that at any time.

15:54:22 <msporny> Steven: +1

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: +1

15:54:27 <mhausenblas> re validation see http://rdfa.info/wiki/How-to-validate

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Unknown mhausenblas: re validation see http://rdfa.info/wiki/How-to-validate

15:54:42 <msporny> benadida: What about syntax/editorial issues? Should we make that coincide with end of CR?

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Unknown benadida: What about syntax/editorial issues? Should we make that coincide with end of CR?

15:55:00 <msporny> Ralph: We need to make editorial corrections at PR

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Unknown Ralph: We need to make editorial corrections at PR

15:55:05 <msporny> benadida: Then we should modify editors draft.

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Unknown benadida: Then we should modify editors draft.

15:55:14 <msporny> Ralph: Yes, but make sure any change made is editorial.

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Unknown Ralph: Yes, but make sure any change made is editorial.

15:55:38 <msporny> benadida: Alans comment is the only non-editorial, but we will only make editorial changes.

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Unknown benadida: Alans comment is the only non-editorial, but we will only make editorial changes.

15:55:54 <msporny> benadida: I think we know what we have to do for CR.

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Unknown benadida: I think we know what we have to do for CR.

15:56:01 <benadida> ACTION: follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL

ACTION: Ben to follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL

15:56:08 <benadida> s/follow up/Ben to follow up/
15:56:26 <msporny> yay :)

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yay :)

15:56:32 <msporny> Topic: RDFa Tools & Examples

3. RDFa Tools & Examples

15:56:51 <msporny> benadida: I think there are opportunities to help people make sense of RDFa via little tools.

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Unknown benadida: I think there are opportunities to help people make sense of RDFa via little tools.

15:57:01 <msporny> benadida: What are the big needs that we see as far as tools are concerned.

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Unknown benadida: What are the big needs that we see as far as tools are concerned.

15:57:27 <benadida> Manu: working on Fuzzbot for FF2 and FF3

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: working on Fuzzbot for FF2 and FF3 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ]

15:57:36 <benadida> ... working on slashdot

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Unknown benadida: ... working on slashdot

15:57:41 <benadida> ... finalizing hAudio

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Unknown benadida: ... finalizing hAudio

15:59:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: working on image/flickr stuff, see e.g. http://sw.joanneum.at/CaMiCatzee/wrapper.php?report=http://danbri.org/foaf.rdf

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15:59:45 <msporny> benadida: There's a chance to talk Songbird folks into using RDFa?

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Unknown benadida: There's a chance to talk Songbird folks into using RDFa?

15:59:51 <msporny> benadida: It would work well with Creative Commons.

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Unknown benadida: It would work well with Creative Commons.

16:01:46 <msporny> benadida: I can talk to Songbird folks - let's coordinate and chat with them.

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Unknown benadida: I can talk to Songbird folks - let's coordinate and chat with them.

16:01:53 <msporny> Manu: That would be great.

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: That would be great.

16:02:06 <msporny> Michael: Are you still in contact with Flickr guys?

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: Are you still in contact with Flickr guys?

16:02:14 <msporny> Michael: What they have for RDFa is wierd...

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: What they have for RDFa is wierd...

16:02:29 <msporny> benadida: I'm working my way to them... they're a good candidate for RDFa.

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Unknown benadida: I'm working my way to them... they're a good candidate for RDFa.

16:02:40 <msporny> benadida: I'll keep pushing towards them.

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Unknown benadida: I'll keep pushing towards them.

16:02:58 <msporny> Michael: They do really wierd things...

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: They do really wierd things...

16:03:10 <msporny> benadida: I know, they're playing around with it now - need a little guidance... see what I can do.

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Unknown benadida: I know, they're playing around with it now - need a little guidance... see what I can do.

16:03:20 <msporny> benadida: One more thing

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Unknown benadida: One more thing

16:03:34 <msporny> benadida: A lot of people are wondering what they get now with RDFa.

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Unknown benadida: A lot of people are wondering what they get now with RDFa.

16:03:42 <msporny> benadida: Right now, we can start pitching Search Monkey.

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Unknown benadida: Right now, we can start pitching Search Monkey.

16:04:14 <msporny> benadida: The idea of separation of concern... they could be both the producer and consumer of site data.

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Unknown benadida: The idea of separation of concern... they could be both the producer and consumer of site data.

16:04:30 <msporny> benadida: one person can write up RDFa, the Javascript developers can write stuff to consume RDFa.

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Unknown benadida: one person can write up RDFa, the Javascript developers can write stuff to consume RDFa.

16:04:38 <msporny> benadida: That approach has been successful with some people.

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Unknown benadida: That approach has been successful with some people.

16:04:48 <msporny> Steven: that's a good argument, separate meaning from function.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: that's a good argument, separate meaning from function.

16:05:05 <msporny> benadida: I'll try to find some time to work on our stuff internally... to build something with that architecture in mind.

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Unknown benadida: I'll try to find some time to work on our stuff internally... to build something with that architecture in mind.

16:05:14 <msporny> benadida: any other thoughts?

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Unknown benadida: any other thoughts?

16:05:31 <msporny> Michael: There is a paper I presented up there - it's important to have lots of RDFa widgets.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: There is a paper I presented up there - it's important to have lots of RDFa widgets.

16:06:05 <msporny> Michael: the stuff in that paper isn't publicly available, but it's up there.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: the stuff in that paper isn't publicly available, but it's up there.

16:06:18 <msporny> Michael: we should highlight tools - no need to write RDFa at the low level.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: we should highlight tools - no need to write RDFa at the low level.

16:06:36 <msporny> benadida: This is great, exactly what I'm getting at.

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Unknown benadida: This is great, exactly what I'm getting at.

16:06:56 <msporny> Micheal: It's functional...

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Unknown Micheal: It's functional...

16:07:06 <msporny> benadida: Anything else?

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Unknown benadida: Anything else?

16:07:15 <msporny> benadida: Keep this stuff going - more implementations, more tools.

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Unknown benadida: Keep this stuff going - more implementations, more tools.

16:07:31 <mhausenblas> -> http://semanticweb.joanneum.at/tutorials/iswc08-rdfa

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://semanticweb.joanneum.at/tutorials/iswc08-rdfa

16:07:43 <msporny> Michael: Comment on this page if you can.

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: Comment on this page if you can.

16:07:58 <msporny> benadida: This gives us the opportunity to pitch RDFa to semantic web crowd.

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Unknown benadida: This gives us the opportunity to pitch RDFa to semantic web crowd.

16:08:14 <msporny> Steven: Don't forget about Raptor.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: Don't forget about Raptor.

16:08:30 <msporny> ShaneM: small group inside Google uses Raptor.

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Unknown ShaneM: small group inside Google uses Raptor.

16:08:44 <msporny> Steven: We need to think about how a page should be treated as RDFa.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: We need to think about how a page should be treated as RDFa.

16:09:22 <msporny> benadida: okay, thanks everybody.

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Unknown benadida: okay, thanks everybody.

16:09:31 <msporny> Ralph: I'm not available next week.

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Unknown Ralph: I'm not available next week.

16:09:39 <msporny> benadida: Can we do the 10th?

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Unknown benadida: Can we do the 10th?

16:09:48 <msporny> Steven: yes.

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Unknown Steven_Pemberton: yes.

16:09:48 <Ralph> Ralph: regrets for next week

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Unknown Ralph: regrets for next week [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

16:09:52 <msporny> Michael: yes

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Unknown Michael_Hausenblas: yes

16:09:54 <msporny> Manu: yes

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: yes

16:10:02 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

16:10:05 <Zakim> -Michael_Hausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -Michael_Hausenblas

16:10:07 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida

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16:10:08 <Zakim> -Steven

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16:10:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

16:10:45 <msporny> Happy birthday again Micheal - don't forget to celebrate! :)

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Happy birthday again Michael - don't forget to celebrate! :)

16:10:58 <msporny> s/Micheal/Michael/!
16:11:05 <mhausenblas> ta

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Unknown mhausenblas: ta

16:11:16 <mhausenblas> btw, we still have that bet running

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Unknown mhausenblas: btw, we still have that bet running

16:11:17 <Zakim> -Ralph

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16:11:21 <Zakim> -msporny

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16:11:22 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

16:11:23 <Zakim> Attendees were msporny, Michael_Hausenblas, ShaneM, Steven, Ben_Adida, Ralph

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were msporny, Michael_Hausenblas, ShaneM, Steven, Ben_Adida, Ralph

16:11:36 <mhausenblas> what will be ready earlier RDFa REC or Michael's PhD

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Unknown mhausenblas: what will be ready earlier RDFa REC or Michael's PhD

16:11:39 <Ralph> zakim, bye

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Unknown Ralph: zakim, bye

16:11:45 <msporny> haha

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haha

16:11:46 <mhausenblas> still open :)

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Unknown mhausenblas: still open :)

16:11:48 <Ralph> Michael :)

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Unknown Ralph: Michael :)

16:12:00 <Ralph> but you should still celebrate your birthday first

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Unknown Ralph: but you should still celebrate your birthday first

16:12:13 <mhausenblas> BUT, now the second reader has my PhD and expecting to have my defense in October :)

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Unknown mhausenblas: BUT, now the second reader has my PhD and expecting to have my defense in October :)

16:12:24 <mhausenblas> right, Ralph, will do ;)

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Unknown mhausenblas: right, Ralph, will do ;)

16:12:51 <mhausenblas> so, it will be a *very* exciting October anyway :)

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Unknown mhausenblas: so, it will be a *very* exciting October anyway :)

16:13:05 <mhausenblas> see ya all !

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Unknown mhausenblas: see ya all !

16:13:06 <mhausenblas> bye

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Unknown mhausenblas: bye

17:03:41 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye

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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, bye

17:03:41 <RRSAgent> I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-actions.rdf :

17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [1]

ACTION: Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [1]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-09-39

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [2]

ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] [2]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-10-03

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [3]

ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] [3]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-25-36

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [4]

ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07] [4]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-26-01-1

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [5]

ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] [5]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-27-14

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane write geolocation examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [6]

ACTION: Shane write geolocation examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] [6]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-27-27

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Steven write vevent examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [7]

ACTION: Steven write vevent examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [7]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-35-47

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Steven to migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki [8]

ACTION: Steven to migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki [8]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-36-25

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [9]

ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] [9]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-36-34

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [10]

ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] [10]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-37-40

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [11]

ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [11]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-41-24

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17:03:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL [12]

ACTION: follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL [12]

17:03:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-irc#T15-56-01

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