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RDF Working Group

Minutes of 19 February 2014

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Andy Seaborne, Antoine Zimmermann, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Gavin Carothers, Gregg Kellogg, Guus Schreiber, Ivan Herman, Markus Lanthaler, Patrick Hayes, Peter Patel-Schneider, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau, Thomas Baker, Yves Raimond
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  1. testto accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2014-02-12 link
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16:03:43 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS

(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)

16:03:43 <AndyS> topic: Admin

1. Admin

16:03:56 <Guus> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon:

Guus Schreiber: PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon:

16:04:40 <AndyS> RESOLVED: testto accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2014-02-12

RESOLVED: testto accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2014-02-12

16:04:54 <AndyS> topic: Action items

2. Action items

16:05:15 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF WG - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ - final(!) Agenda is at http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.19

Ted Thibodeau: TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF WG - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ - final(!) Agenda is at http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.19

16:05:20 <AndyS> ACTION-98?

ACTION-98?

16:05:21 <trackbot> ACTION-98 -- Sandro Hawke to Rdf: and rdfs: namespace should resolve to something that meets best practices -- due 2011-12-31 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-98 -- Sandro Hawke to Rdf: and rdfs: namespace should resolve to something that meets best practices -- due 2011-12-31 -- OPEN

16:05:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/98

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/98

16:06:41 <Zakim> +??P28

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28

16:06:47 <yvesr> Zakim, ??P28 is me

Yves Raimond: Zakim, ??P28 is me

16:06:47 <Zakim> +yvesr; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yvesr; got it

16:07:08 <Zakim> +??P29

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29

16:07:10 <markus> zakim, ??P29 is me

Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ??P29 is me

16:07:10 <Zakim> +markus; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +markus; got it

16:07:17 <AndyS> Just one action open!

Just one action open!

16:07:34 <AndyS> Topic: REC drafts

3. REC drafts

16:07:44 <AndyS> Guus: Now in REC space.

Guus Schreiber: Now in REC space.

16:07:48 <ivan> zakim, unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me

16:07:48 <Zakim> Ivan was not muted, ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan was not muted, ivan

16:07:50 <AndyS> ... can fix if necessary

... can fix if necessary

16:07:59 <AndyS> ... needs team involvement

... needs team involvement

16:08:26 <AndyS> ... inc Turtle grammar fix and Turtle reference

... inc Turtle grammar fix and Turtle reference

16:08:44 <AndyS> Ivan: Director request sent this morning.

Ivan Herman: Director request sent this morning.

16:09:04 <Zakim> +PatH

Zakim IRC Bot: +PatH

16:09:53 <AndyS> guus: Process on track.

Guus Schreiber: Process on track.

16:10:14 <PatH> Apologies for being late.

Patrick Hayes: Apologies for being late.

16:10:29 <AndyS> ACTION Guus: Write a draft blog entry for REC

ACTION Guus: Write a draft blog entry for REC

16:10:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-348 - Write a draft blog entry for rec [on Guus Schreiber - due 2014-02-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-348 - Write a draft blog entry for rec [on Guus Schreiber - due 2014-02-26].

16:10:54 <AndyS> Guus: Hope to write Monday

Guus Schreiber: Hope to write Monday

16:11:00 <AndyS> topic: WG Notes

4. WG Notes

16:11:00 <AndyS> subtopic: Primer

4.1. Primer

16:11:14 <AndyS> Guus: Some editorial work on primer.

Guus Schreiber: Some editorial work on primer.

16:11:22 <AndyS> ... Sandro's comments done.

... Sandro's comments done.

16:11:37 <AndyS> ... Markus sent comments (on comments)

... Markus sent comments (on comments)

16:12:09 <AndyS> ... one major editorial change ... subsections of each syntax in section 5.

... one major editorial change ... subsections of each syntax in section 5.

16:12:21 <gavinc> mmm "Turtle family of RDF languages"

Gavin Carothers: mmm "Turtle family of RDF languages"

16:12:38 <yvesr> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html

Yves Raimond: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html

16:12:54 <gavinc> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax

Gavin Carothers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax

16:12:58 <AndyS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax

16:14:03 <tbaker> q+ to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...

Thomas Baker: q+ to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...

16:14:19 <tbaker> zakim, unmute me

Thomas Baker: zakim, unmute me

16:14:19 <Zakim> tbaker should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: tbaker should no longer be muted

16:14:21 <Guus> ack tbaker

Guus Schreiber: ack tbaker

16:14:21 <Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...

Zakim IRC Bot: tbaker, you wanted to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...

16:14:29 <gavinc> +q

Gavin Carothers: +q

16:14:50 <AndyS> tbaker: "languages" vs "syntaxes"

Thomas Baker: "languages" vs "syntaxes"

16:15:16 <AndyS> Guus: hasn't been raised before

Guus Schreiber: hasn't been raised before

16:15:24 <tbaker> +1

Thomas Baker: +1

16:15:43 <tbaker> zakim, please mute me

Thomas Baker: zakim, please mute me

16:15:43 <Zakim> tbaker should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: tbaker should now be muted

16:15:50 <AndyS> gavinc: primer reverses NT / TTL from the spec docs.

Gavin Carothers: primer reverses NT / TTL from the spec docs.

16:16:21 <AndyS> ... where NT is described as a subset of TTL

... where NT is described as a subset of TTL

16:16:30 <Zakim> -EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP

16:16:52 <AndyS> guus: Going from simple to complicated, starting with triples.

Guus Schreiber: Going from simple to complicated, starting with triples.

16:17:30 <Zakim> +EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP

16:18:15 <AndyS> guus: will tell WG when stable

Guus Schreiber: will tell WG when stable

16:18:59 <AndyS> subtopic: datasets note

4.2. datasets note

16:19:42 <AndyS> guus: less comments/review ... ask volunteers for help with editorial revisions

Guus Schreiber: less comments/review ... ask volunteers for help with editorial revisions

16:19:51 <AndyS> ... (pause) ...

... (pause) ...

16:20:08 <PatH> puff..puff..

Patrick Hayes: puff..puff..

16:21:31 <Guus> zakim, who is here?

Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here?

16:21:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, pchampin, Ivan, GavinC, AndyS, TallTed (muted), gkellogg, tbaker (muted), Sandro, yvesr, markus, PatH, EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, pchampin, Ivan, GavinC, AndyS, TallTed (muted), gkellogg, tbaker (muted), Sandro, yvesr, markus, PatH, EricP

16:21:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatH, markus, TallTed, tbaker, gkellogg, gavinc, pchampin, Guus, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, AndyS, davidwood, yvesr, manu, sandro, ericP, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PatH, markus, TallTed, tbaker, gkellogg, gavinc, pchampin, Guus, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, AndyS, davidwood, yvesr, manu, sandro, ericP, trackbot

16:22:07 <AndyS> gavinc: The example syntax is different to anything else ... not am RDF syntax.

Gavin Carothers: The example syntax is different to anything else ... not am RDF syntax.

16:24:04 <Zakim> restarting zakim-bot in 3 minutes to recover bridge state; please save your agendas

Zakim IRC Bot: restarting zakim-bot in 3 minutes to recover bridge state; please save your agendas

16:25:11 <AndyS> guus: make those comments and/or make the changes directly.

Guus Schreiber: make those comments and/or make the changes directly.

16:25:22 <AndyS> ... still need volunteers.

... still need volunteers.

16:26:51 <PatH> How urgently must this be done? I can do it but not until the weekend.

Patrick Hayes: How urgently must this be done? I can do it but not until the weekend.

16:27:37 <Zakim> zakim-bot restarting

Zakim IRC Bot: zakim-bot restarting

16:29:33 <AndyS> subtopic: testcases

4.3. testcases

16:30:20 <AndyS> gregg: fixes for errors for bad references (needs Sandro's help)

Gregg Kellogg: fixes for errors for bad references (needs Sandro's help)

16:30:34 <AndyS> ... missing NS document.  NS doc created.

... missing NS document. NS doc created.

16:31:29 <AndyS> sandro: would be nice to get review

Sandro Hawke: would be nice to get review

16:32:20 <gkellogg> http://www.w3.org/2013/RDFXMLTests/

Gregg Kellogg: http://www.w3.org/2013/RDFXMLTests/

16:32:20 <AZ> is it over?

Antoine Zimmermann: is it over?

16:32:49 <gkellogg> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default//rdf-xml/tests

Gregg Kellogg: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default//rdf-xml/tests

16:33:41 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2013/N-QuadsTests/

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2013/N-QuadsTests/

16:34:51 <AndyS> gregg: Shall we ref the 2004 test suite (RDF/XML)?

Gregg Kellogg: Shall we ref the 2004 test suite (RDF/XML)?

16:35:02 <gkellogg> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-testcases/

Gregg Kellogg: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-testcases/

16:35:55 <gkellogg> 2000 test cases: http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/

Gregg Kellogg: 2000 test cases: http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/

16:36:05 <AndyS> guus: Reminded that redirection box needs to go on test cases as well.

Guus Schreiber: Reminded that redirection box needs to go on test cases as well.

16:41:09 <AndyS> topic: Namespace documents

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5. Namespace documents

16:41:21 <AndyS> sandro: Under control

Sandro Hawke: Under control

16:41:32 <AndyS> guus: take to email

Guus Schreiber: take to email

16:41:52 <pfps> time to declare victory?

Peter Patel-Schneider: time to declare victory?

16:41:55 <AndyS> sandro: Will have future maintenance .

Sandro Hawke: Will have future maintenance .

16:42:00 <AndyS> topic: The End

6. The End

16:42:08 <ericP> many thanks to Guus!

Eric Prud'hommeaux: many thanks to Guus!

16:42:13 <ericP> chair for life

Eric Prud'hommeaux: chair for life

16:42:16 <yvesr> :)

Yves Raimond: :)

16:42:17 <pfps> so we have succeeded - 42

Peter Patel-Schneider: so we have succeeded - 42

16:42:20 <AndyS> Guus: Thank you everyone.

Guus Schreiber: Thank you everyone.

16:42:23 <PatH> Three cheers to our chairs!!

Patrick Hayes: Three cheers to our chairs!!

16:42:35 <tbaker> thank you Guus!

Thomas Baker: thank you Guus!

16:42:38 <PatH> Byeeee

Patrick Hayes: Byeeee

16:42:47 <gavinc> bye bye!

Gavin Carothers: bye bye!

16:43:03 <ericP> guus says he'll chair validation, right?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: guus says he'll chair validation, right?

16:43:20 <yvesr> bye :)

Yves Raimond: bye :)

16:43:28 <AndyS> ADJOURNED

ADJOURNED

16:43:53 <Guus> trackbot, end meeting

Guus Schreiber: trackbot, end meeting

16:43:53 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

16:43:53 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

16:44:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

16:44:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot

16:44:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

16:44:02 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :

16:44:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to Write a draft blog entry for REC [1]

ACTION: Guus to Write a draft blog entry for REC [1]

16:44:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-irc#T16-10-29

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-irc#T16-10-29



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