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15:54:35 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:54:35 <trackbot> Date: 12 February 2014
15:55:13 <gavinc> Guus, you have a copy of agenda that isn't on the wiki (which is down)?
Gavin Carothers: Guus, you have a copy of agenda that isn't on the wiki (which is down)? ←
15:55:46 <davidwood> Oh, joy
David Wood: Oh, joy ←
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15:56:19 <Guus> it's slow but I can see it
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15:57:05 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller is me
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15:57:27 <Zakim> +??P7
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15:57:35 <gkellogg> zakim, ??P7 is me
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16:00:57 <yvesr> Guus, just pushed the new diagrams to the primer
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16:01:04 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
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16:01:04 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
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16:01:05 <yvesr> (still a few things to sort out but getting there)
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16:01:06 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
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16:01:25 <cygri> zakim, code?
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16:01:25 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri
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16:02:26 <markus> zakim, code?
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16:02:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), markus
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16:02:32 <Guus> chair: Guus
16:02:32 <Guus> scribe: pfps
(Scribe set to Peter Patel-Schneider)
16:02:35 <gavinc> 'cause it's FINALLY raining
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16:03:38 <pfps> scribenick pfps
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16:03:41 <ericP> Zakim, ??P25 is me
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16:03:55 <ericP> q-
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q- ←
16:04:01 <AndyS> c
Andy Seaborne: c ←
16:04:02 <ericP> q- ??P25
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16:05:58 <pfps> Topic: Admin
16:06:15 <Guus> PROPOSED: to accept the minutes of the 29 Jan telecon:
PROPOSED: to accept the minutes of the 29 Jan telecon: ←
16:06:26 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
16:07:17 <pfps> RESOLVED: to accept the minutes of the 29 Jan telecon:
RESOLVED: to accept the minutes of the 29 Jan telecon: ←
16:07:42 <sandro> trackbot, pointer?
Sandro Hawke: trackbot, pointer? ←
16:07:42 <trackbot> Sorry, sandro, I don't understand 'trackbot, pointer?'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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16:07:57 <pfps> Guus: action items
Guus Schreiber: action items ←
16:07:57 <Zakim> +??P36
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16:08:08 <pchampin> zakim, ??P36 is me
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16:08:19 <pfps> Guus: Item 337 gregg is done?
Guus Schreiber: Item 337 gregg is done? ←
16:08:27 <pfps> Gregg: yes
Gregg Kellogg: yes ←
16:08:28 <gkellogg> ACTION-337?
16:08:29 <trackbot> ACTION-337 -- Gregg Kellogg to Find some test cases for https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-xml/index.html#parsetypeliteralpropertyelt -- due 2013-12-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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16:08:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/337
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16:08:51 <pfps> Guus: Items 338, 339, 340, 341, 342 all done
Guus Schreiber: Items 338, 339, 340, 341, 342 all done ←
16:09:11 <pfps> Guus: open actions
Guus Schreiber: open actions ←
16:09:19 <pfps> Guus: action 98 done?
Guus Schreiber: ACTION-98 done? ←
16:09:25 <pfps> Sandro: underway
Sandro Hawke: underway ←
16:09:36 <pfps> Guus: review of dataset note unknown
Guus Schreiber: review of dataset note unknown ←
16:09:49 <pfps> Guus: rdf/xml tests done
Guus Schreiber: rdf/xml tests done ←
16:10:00 <pfps> Gregg: decided not to add them because they are not normative
Gregg Kellogg: decided not to add them because they are not normative ←
16:10:24 <pfps> Guus: OK
Guus Schreiber: OK ←
16:10:58 <pfps> Topic: REC documentss
16:11:16 <pfps> Guus: there are static versions of all the documents available
Guus Schreiber: there are static versions of all the documents available ←
16:11:37 <pfps> Guus: changes had to be made to fix up some formatting issues
Guus Schreiber: changes had to be made to fix up some formatting issues ←
16:12:26 <pfps> Guus: comments
Guus Schreiber: comments ←
16:12:35 <ericP> ack me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me ←
16:12:37 <pfps> Guus: turtle syntax errors all addressed
Guus Schreiber: turtle syntax errors all addressed ←
16:13:22 <pfps> Guus: when was the error introduced?
Guus Schreiber: when was the error introduced? ←
16:14:46 <AndyS> Turtle syntax error is in affects TriG as well.
Andy Seaborne: Turtle syntax error is in affects TriG as well. ←
16:14:54 <pfps> Eric: information from the director is that if we test the change and send email to implementators and public that we will be OK
Eric Prud'hommeaux: information from the director is that if we test the change and send email to implementators and public that we will be OK ←
16:15:15 <pfps> Eric: we need to get back no complaints to be OK
Eric Prud'hommeaux: we need to get back no complaints to be OK ←
16:15:28 <pfps> Eric: this is for both Turtle and TRIG
Eric Prud'hommeaux: this is for both Turtle and TRIG ←
16:15:39 <pfps> Eric: Gregg you have the list of implementors
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Gregg you have the list of implementors ←
16:15:48 <pfps> Gregg: are we actually changing the tests
Gregg Kellogg: are we actually changing the tests ←
16:15:53 <sandro> eric: we'll have to send mail to all the turtle and trig implementors, providing them the test case, and asking if they have a problem with this.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: we'll have to send mail to all the turtle and trig implementors, providing them the test case, and asking if they have a problem with this. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:16:14 <pfps> Eric: no, we would add a test that would be likely to break an implementation of either CR or PR
Eric Prud'hommeaux: no, we would add a test that would be likely to break an implementation of either CR or PR ←
16:16:21 <pfps> Gregg: can we add a test?
Gregg Kellogg: can we add a test? ←
16:16:59 <AndyS> q+ to clarify the effect on impls (bad syntax -> good, but they prob accepted it anyway)
Andy Seaborne: q+ to clarify the effect on impls (bad syntax -> good, but they prob accepted it anyway) ←
16:17:01 <Zakim> +??P37
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16:17:01 <pfps> Eric: not really, we just need the implementors to say that they are willing to make any changes necessary
Eric Prud'hommeaux: not really, we just need the implementors to say that they are willing to make any changes necessary ←
16:17:13 <sandro> eric: The Director wants implementors to have a chance to say no. Mail them the test and explain the situation, and hope they'll say "I already do this" or "i'll make this change soon". It should go into a post-rec test suite.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: The Director wants implementors to have a chance to say no. Mail them the test and explain the situation, and hope they'll say "I already do this" or "i'll make this change soon". It should go into a post-rec test suite. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:17:13 <AZ> Zakim, ??P37 is me
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16:17:13 <Zakim> +AZ; got it
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16:17:15 <pfps> Eric: the change should go into any after-REC test suite
Eric Prud'hommeaux: the change should go into any after-REC test suite ←
16:17:46 <pfps> gregg: the RDFa test suite has has after-REC test suite
Gregg Kellogg: the RDFa test suite has has after-REC test suite ←
16:18:12 <pfps> Guus: the fallback is to not make change
Guus Schreiber: the fallback is to not make change ←
16:18:36 <davidwood> q+ to ask what we would do if people object either way
David Wood: q+ to ask what we would do if people object either way ←
16:19:16 <pfps> andy: so the PR makes something illegal that something actually accepts
Andy Seaborne: so the PR makes something illegal that something actually accepts ←
16:19:29 <pfps> eric: there are implementations that need to change
Eric Prud'hommeaux: there are implementations that need to change ←
16:19:53 <pfps> guus: the PR grammar is too restrictive
Guus Schreiber: the PR grammar is too restrictive ←
16:19:56 <pfps> eric: yes
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yes ←
16:20:00 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
16:20:00 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to clarify the effect on impls (bad syntax -> good, but they prob accepted it anyway)
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to clarify the effect on impls (bad syntax -> good, but they prob accepted it anyway) ←
16:20:34 <pfps> guus: timing?
Guus Schreiber: timing? ←
16:20:54 <pfps> eric: if we sent email today ...
Eric Prud'hommeaux: if we sent email today ... ←
16:21:09 <pfps> guus: we want an answer next week, so ask for it then
Guus Schreiber: we want an answer next week, so ask for it then ←
16:21:12 <pfps> eric: OK
Eric Prud'hommeaux: OK ←
16:21:24 <Guus> ack DavidWood
Guus Schreiber: ack DavidWood ←
16:21:24 <Zakim> davidwood, you wanted to ask what we would do if people object either way
Zakim IRC Bot: davidwood, you wanted to ask what we would do if people object either way ←
16:21:41 <pfps> david: what would we do if there are objections either way?
David Wood: what would we do if there are objections both way? ←
16:21:47 <pfps> s/either/both/
16:21:57 <pfps> guus: then we make no change
Guus Schreiber: then we make no change ←
16:22:34 <pfps> sandro: if we make no change then we should add a note saying that there is this divergence from SPARQL
Sandro Hawke: if we make no change then we should add a note saying that there is this divergence from SPARQL ←
16:22:52 <pfps> guus: I can't expect anyone to complain
Guus Schreiber: I can't expect anyone to complain ←
16:23:00 <pfps> pfps: :-)
Peter Patel-Schneider: :-) ←
16:23:01 <ericP> ack me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me ←
16:23:17 <pfps> eric: i'll send out the email now
Eric Prud'hommeaux: i'll send out the email now ←
16:23:22 <ericP> <s> <p> """ ""\u0061 """ .
Eric Prud'hommeaux: <s> <p> """ ""\u0061 """ . ←
16:23:37 <pfps> eric: that was the test
Eric Prud'hommeaux: that was the test ←
16:24:15 <pfps> eric: the character after an internal quote can't be a \u escape
Eric Prud'hommeaux: the character after an internal quote can't be a \u escape ←
16:24:31 <pfps> sandro: there are a number of tests needed
Sandro Hawke: there are a number of tests needed ←
16:24:31 <sandro> """""""".
Sandro Hawke: """""""". ←
16:24:36 <pfps> eric: yes
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yes ←
16:24:43 <sandro> """""\n""".
Sandro Hawke: """""\n""". ←
16:25:07 <pfps> eric: I'll send internal email first saying that this was an unintentional error
Eric Prud'hommeaux: I'll send internal email first saying that this was an unintentional error ←
16:25:29 <pfps> ACTION eric: send email on Turtle unintentional error recovery
ACTION eric: send email on Turtle unintentional error recovery ←
16:25:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-345 - Send email on turtle unintentional error recovery [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2014-02-19].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-345 - Send email on turtle unintentional error recovery [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2014-02-19]. ←
16:25:30 <sandro> Oh, right.
Sandro Hawke: Oh, right. ←
16:25:49 <sandro> """""\n""" is okay, right?
Sandro Hawke: """""\n""" is okay, right? ←
16:26:05 <sandro> being the same as "\"\"\n"
Sandro Hawke: being the same as "\"\"\n" ←
16:26:23 <pfps> q+
q+ ←
16:26:25 <ericP> yup
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yup ←
16:26:40 <pfps> guus: propose to advance 8 documents to REC
Guus Schreiber: propose to advance 8 documents to REC ←
16:26:44 <Guus> PROPOSED: to ask the Director to advance eight P(E)Rs to REC
PROPOSED: to ask the Director to advance eight P(E)Rs to REC ←
16:26:45 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:27:05 <pfps> eric: what about the turtle change
Andy Seaborne: what about the turtle change ←
16:27:06 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:27:11 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
16:27:13 <pfps> guus:either way we go forward
Guus Schreiber: either way we go forward ←
16:27:25 <sandro> s/eric/andy/
16:27:32 <pfps> eric: we should go forward either way
Eric Prud'hommeaux: we should go forward either way ←
16:27:47 <AZ> +1 for 7 documents, -1 for Semantics, considering my formal objection before
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 for 7 documents, -1 for Semantics, considering my formal objection before ←
16:28:20 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:28:36 <pfps> sandro: there is nothing more to do because this is the same as the last one
Sandro Hawke: there is nothing more to do because this is the same as the last one ←
16:28:45 <pfps> guus: in any case the WG is not very involved
Guus Schreiber: in any case the WG is not very involved ←
16:28:49 <pfps> q-
q- ←
16:29:08 <Guus> clarification - REC with Turtle change as discussed
Guus Schreiber: clarification - REC with Turtle change as discussed ←
16:29:10 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
16:29:19 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:29:19 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
16:29:27 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
16:29:27 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:29:32 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
16:30:08 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
16:30:24 <pfps> RESOLVED: to ask the Director to advance eight P(E)Rs to REC, over Antoine's objection
RESOLVED: to ask the Director to advance eight P(E)Rs to REC, over Antoine's objection ←
16:30:54 <pfps> guus: short names
Guus Schreiber: short names ←
16:31:37 <pfps> guus: we keep rdf11- for the three short names that have existing versions (concepts, mt, primer)
Guus Schreiber: we keep rdf11- for the three short names that have existing versions (concepts, mt, primer) ←
16:32:22 <pfps> guus: the page for the old version will give pointers to the different versions
Guus Schreiber: the page for the old version will give pointers to the different versions ←
16:32:34 <pfps> guus: this is not really our concern, in any case
Guus Schreiber: this is not really our concern, in any case ←
16:32:52 <pfps> guus: there is an errata page and this is linked to from the drafts
Guus Schreiber: there is an errata page and this is linked to from the drafts ←
16:33:06 <pfps> guus: I'll also include the link in the notes
Guus Schreiber: I'll also include the link in the notes ←
16:33:15 <pfps> ACTION guus: add pointer to errata page from notes
ACTION guus: add pointer to errata page from notes ←
16:33:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-346 - Add pointer to errata page from notes [on Guus Schreiber - due 2014-02-19].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-346 - Add pointer to errata page from notes [on Guus Schreiber - due 2014-02-19]. ←
16:33:19 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
16:33:19 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
16:33:47 <markus> shall we remove the dot in rdf1.1 in "http://www.w3.org/2014/rdf1.1-errata"?
Markus Lanthaler: shall we remove the dot in rdf1.1 in "http://www.w3.org/2014/rdf1.1-errata"? ←
16:34:14 <pfps> ted: I can't get to that page
Ted Thibodeau: I can't get to that page ←
16:34:31 <pfps> guus: the page says do not link to this page but to the various documents
Guus Schreiber: the page says do not link to this page but to the various documents ←
16:34:35 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
16:34:35 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
16:34:45 <pfps> ted: a bit like a WikiPedia disambiguation page
Ted Thibodeau: a bit like a WikiPedia disambiguation page ←
16:35:30 <pfps> guus: ivan set it up
Guus Schreiber: ivan set it up ←
16:35:38 <pfps> sandro: I don't know how to fix it
Sandro Hawke: I don't know how to fix it ←
16:35:46 <pfps> Topic: WG notes
16:36:00 <pfps> guus: no comments on notes?
Guus Schreiber: no comments on notes? ←
16:36:04 <pfps> david: no comments
David Wood: no comments ←
16:36:34 <pfps> guus: the "What's New" document has had no comments
Guus Schreiber: the "What's New" document has had no comments ←
16:36:57 <pfps> PROPOSED: republish What's New as WG Note on 25 Feb without changes.
PROPOSED: republish What's New as WG Note on 25 Feb without changes. ←
16:37:00 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:37:01 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:37:03 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
16:37:04 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:37:04 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
16:37:04 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
16:37:05 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
16:37:06 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:37:09 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:37:22 <pfps> RESOLVED: republish What's New as WG Note on 25 Feb without changes.
RESOLVED: republish What's New as WG Note on 25 Feb without changes. ←
16:37:27 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:37:31 <pfps> guus: I'll do the static version
Guus Schreiber: I'll do the static version ←
16:37:37 <davidwood> Thanks, Guus
David Wood: Thanks, Guus ←
16:38:04 <pfps> Guus: primer - several very constructive comments
Guus Schreiber: primer - several very constructive comments ←
16:38:35 <pfps> Guus: there are a few minor issues still outstanding, but no problems forseen
Guus Schreiber: there are a few minor issues still outstanding, but no problems forseen ←
16:38:50 <pfps> Guus: there are a few editorial issues, mostly having to do with the figures
Guus Schreiber: there are a few editorial issues, mostly having to do with the figures ←
16:39:12 <pfps> Guus: Sandro did a rewrite of the semantics section
Guus Schreiber: Sandro did a rewrite of the semantics section ←
16:39:44 <pfps> Markus: JSON LD earlier
Markus Lanthaler: JSON LD earlier ←
16:39:49 <pfps> Guus: yes, Yves is doing that
Guus Schreiber: yes, Yves is doing that ←
16:40:05 <pfps> PROPOSED: to publish as Primer WG Note on 25 Feb with editorial changes
PROPOSED: to publish as Primer WG Note on 25 Feb with editorial changes ←
16:40:09 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
16:40:10 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:40:11 <pchampin> +1
16:40:12 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:40:12 <tbaker> +1
Thomas Baker: +1 ←
16:40:13 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:40:14 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
16:40:19 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
16:40:20 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
16:40:24 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:40:24 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:40:32 <pfps> RESOLVED: to publish Primer as WG Note on 25 Feb with editorial changes
RESOLVED: to publish Primer as WG Note on 25 Feb with editorial changes ←
16:40:42 <Arnaud> belated +1
Arnaud Le Hors: belated +1 ←
16:40:46 <pfps> Guus: Datasets WG note
Guus Schreiber: Datasets WG note ←
16:40:58 <pfps> Guus: no second review yet
Guus Schreiber: no second review yet ←
16:41:10 <pfps> Guus: Antoine, are changed required
Guus Schreiber: Antoine, are changed required ←
16:41:37 <pfps> Antoine: there are two very minor notes, which could just be removed
Antoine Zimmermann: there are two very minor notes, which could just be removed ←
16:41:52 <pfps> Antoine: Pat was concerned with issues of style, not content
Antoine Zimmermann: Pat was concerned with issues of style, not content ←
16:42:32 <pfps> Antoine: If Pat gets his review in in a couple of days I can make changes and be ready for 19 Feb
Antoine Zimmermann: If Pat gets his review in in a couple of days I can make changes and be ready for 19 Feb ←
16:43:08 <pfps> ACTION AZ: send Pat an email to get him to review Datasets, and make any changes for 19 Feb
ACTION AZ: send Pat an email to get him to review Datasets, and make any changes for 19 Feb ←
16:43:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-347 - Send pat an email to get him to review datasets, and make any changes for 19 feb [on Antoine Zimmermann - due 2014-02-19].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-347 - Send pat an email to get him to review datasets, and make any changes for 19 feb [on Antoine Zimmermann - due 2014-02-19]. ←
16:43:29 <pfps> Guus: Test Cases
Guus Schreiber: Test Cases ←
16:43:59 <pfps> Gregg: right now the test suite points to wiki pages
Gregg Kellogg: right now the test suite points to wiki pages ←
16:44:18 <pfps> Gregg: we propose to copy the existing test suites to a permanent location
Gregg Kellogg: we propose to copy the existing test suites to a permanent location ←
16:44:32 <pfps> Gregg: the implementation reports are also in hg
Gregg Kellogg: the implementation reports are also in hg ←
16:44:49 <pfps> Gregg: we propose to move the implementation reports to a permanent location
Gregg Kellogg: we propose to move the implementation reports to a permanent location ←
16:45:00 <pfps> Gregg: ... and fix up all the pointers
Gregg Kellogg: ... and fix up all the pointers ←
16:45:09 <pfps> Guus: any discussion?
Guus Schreiber: any discussion? ←
16:45:20 <pfps> Sandro: sounds fine by me
Sandro Hawke: sounds fine by me ←
16:45:35 <pfps> Guus: Gregg will need staff help for this
Guus Schreiber: Gregg will need staff help for this ←
16:45:48 <pfps> Gregg: what about 2013/2014
Gregg Kellogg: what about 2013/2014 ←
16:45:52 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
16:46:00 <pfps> Sandro: there is no problem either way
Sandro Hawke: there is no problem either way ←
16:46:17 <pfps> Gregg: they will all use 2013
Gregg Kellogg: they will all use 2013 ←
16:46:29 <pfps> Guus: Sandro can you do the staff work required?
Guus Schreiber: Sandro can you do the staff work required? ←
16:46:33 <pfps> Sandro: yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
16:47:06 <pfps> Gregg: RDF/XML references the 2004 test cases
Gregg Kellogg: RDF/XML references the 2004 test cases ←
16:47:16 <Zakim> +ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP ←
16:47:18 <pfps> Gregg: I propose to update it to the 2013 versions
Gregg Kellogg: I propose to update it to the 2013 versions ←
16:47:35 <ericP> ack me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me ←
16:47:58 <pfps> PROPOSED: to publish RDF 1.1 Test Cases as WG Note
PROPOSED: to publish RDF 1.1 Test Cases as WG Note ←
16:48:08 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:48:08 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:48:10 <pchampin> +1
16:48:10 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:48:11 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:48:12 <tbaker> +1
Thomas Baker: +1 ←
16:48:16 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:48:17 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
16:48:17 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
16:48:23 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
16:48:26 <pfps> RESOLVED: to publish RDF 1.1 Test Cases as WG Note
RESOLVED: to publish RDF 1.1 Test Cases as WG Note ←
16:48:43 <pfps> Topic: Open Issues
16:48:52 <pfps> Guus: last telecon is next week
Guus Schreiber: last telecon is next week ←
16:48:57 <pfps> Guus: currently two open issues
Guus Schreiber: currently two open issues ←
16:49:17 <pfps> Guus: ISSUE-78
16:49:33 <pfps> Guus: there is wording in Primer and there is the datasets note
Guus Schreiber: there is wording in Primer and there is the datasets note ←
16:49:39 <AZ> In the dataset note, there is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-datasets/#named-graph-are-in-a-particular-relationship-with-what-the-graph-name-dereferences-to
Antoine Zimmermann: In the dataset note, there is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-datasets/#named-graph-are-in-a-particular-relationship-with-what-the-graph-name-dereferences-to ←
16:49:45 <pfps> Guus: is that sufficient?
Guus Schreiber: is that sufficient? ←
16:49:49 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:50:05 <pfps> Guus: silence is golden
Guus Schreiber: silence is golden ←
16:50:27 <pfps> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-78 as being addressed in Primer and Datasets notes
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-78 as being addressed in Primer and Datasets notes ←
16:50:34 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:50:35 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:50:35 <tbaker> +1
Thomas Baker: +1 ←
16:50:38 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
16:50:43 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:50:45 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:50:55 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:50:57 <gavinc> +meh
Gavin Carothers: +meh ←
16:51:03 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
16:51:14 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
16:51:17 <pfps> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-78 as being addressed in Primer and Datasets notes
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-78 as being addressed in Primer and Datasets notes ←
16:51:20 <AndyS> +1+1
Andy Seaborne: +1+1 ←
16:51:28 <pfps> Guus: ISSUE-138
16:51:28 <davidwood> Belated +1
David Wood: Belated +1 ←
16:51:44 <pfps> Guus: guidance on which syntaxes to use
Guus Schreiber: guidance on which syntaxes to use ←
16:51:59 <pfps> Guus; the primer describes the syntaxes and gives some guidance
Guus; the primer describes the syntaxes and gives some guidance ←
16:52:09 <pfps> Guus: ... but does not have a complete guidance section
Guus Schreiber: ... but does not have a complete guidance section ←
16:52:23 <pfps> Guus: that's as good as it gets
Guus Schreiber: that's as good as it gets ←
16:53:27 <pfps> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-138 as being addressed in Primer
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-138 as being addressed in Primer ←
16:53:53 <pfps> Sandro: I was waiting for an ack on primer - I have a couple of editorial comments
Sandro Hawke: I was waiting for an ack on primer - I have a couple of editorial comments ←
16:54:30 <pfps> Guus: there was a message on 3 Feb
Guus Schreiber: there was a message on 3 Feb ←
16:54:44 <pfps> Sandro: I was waiting for an "it's all done"
Sandro Hawke: I was waiting for an "it's all done" ←
16:55:10 <TallTed> s/RESOLVED/PROPOSED/
16:55:11 <TallTed> :-)
Ted Thibodeau: :-) ←
16:55:13 <pfps> Guus: it's all done
Guus Schreiber: it's all done ←
16:55:39 <pfps> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-138 as being partially addressed in Primer
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-138 as being partially addressed in Primer ←
16:55:52 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:55:54 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:55:55 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:55:56 <Guus> +1
Guus Schreiber: +1 ←
16:56:02 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:56:03 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:56:05 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
16:56:06 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
16:56:09 <tbaker> +1
Thomas Baker: +1 ←
16:56:14 <sandro> issue-138?
16:56:14 <trackbot> issue-138 -- Guidance to RDF users and developers about which syntaxes to parse and publish -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-138 -- Guidance to RDF users and developers about which syntaxes to parse and publish -- open ←
16:56:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/138
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/138 ←
16:56:32 <sandro> +1 ASSUMING CHANGES ARE DONE AS REQUESTED
Sandro Hawke: +1 ASSUMING CHANGES ARE DONE AS REQUESTED ←
16:57:05 <Arnaud> 0 - seems weird to close admitting it is only partially addressed
Arnaud Le Hors: 0 - seems weird to close admitting it is only partially addressed ←
16:57:15 <pfps> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-138 as being partially addressed in Primer, with a few editorial changes
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-138 as being partially addressed in Primer, with a few editorial changes ←
16:58:08 <pfps> pfps: the WG can't completely solve all problems
Peter Patel-Schneider: the WG can't completely solve all problems ←
16:58:41 <pfps> Topic: Namespace Documents
16:59:03 <pfps> Guus: we can informally discuss this and make decisions next week
Guus Schreiber: we can informally discuss this and make decisions next week ←
16:59:13 <pfps> Sandro: no decisions for us to make here
Sandro Hawke: no decisions for us to make here ←
16:59:35 <pfps> Guus: fine, then we can do this informally and close now
Guus Schreiber: fine, then we can do this informally and close now ←
16:59:38 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:59:58 <pfps> scribing will now be at best intermittent
scribing will now be at best intermittent ←
17:00:00 <pfps> Adjourned
Adjourned ←
17:00:00 <pfps> Topic: Informal post-meeting discussion
17:00:33 <pfps> Sandro: we can do some magic to make everything work out right
Sandro Hawke: we can do some magic to make everything work out right ←
17:01:08 <pfps> Sandro: but the magic is hard and there is no consensus to how to get everything to work out
Sandro Hawke: but the magic is hard and there is no consensus to how to get everything to work out ←
17:02:15 <gavinc> JSON-LD + Mustache is very evil for this sort of thing :D
Gavin Carothers: JSON-LD + Mustache is very evil for this sort of thing :D ←
17:04:56 <gkellogg> <div lang="en">description of that term in HTML English</div>
Gregg Kellogg: <div lang="en">description of that term in HTML English</div> ←
17:05:27 <markus> right, but you have several of those.. so there's no fall back as with plain literals
Markus Lanthaler: right, but you have several of those.. so there's no fall back as with plain literals ←
17:05:40 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
17:05:40 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
17:06:22 <sandro> eric: skos:definition
Eric Prud'hommeaux: skos:definition [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:07:08 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdf:Property rdf:about="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type">
Thomas Baker: <rdf:Property rdf:about="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type"> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:09 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"/>
Thomas Baker: <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"/> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:11 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdfs:label>type</rdfs:label>
Thomas Baker: <rdfs:label>type</rdfs:label> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:12 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdfs:comment>The subject is an instance of a class.</rdfs:comment>
Thomas Baker: <rdfs:comment>The subject is an instance of a class.</rdfs:comment> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:14 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdfs:range rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class"/>
Thomas Baker: <rdfs:range rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class"/> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:15 <tbaker> tbaker: <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Resource"/>
Thomas Baker: <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Resource"/> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:17 <tbaker> tbaker: </rdf:Property>
Thomas Baker: </rdf:Property> [ Scribe Assist by Thomas Baker ] ←
17:07:24 <ericP> eric: skos:definition "A coded value specifying how often doses are administered."
Eric Prud'hommeaux: skos:definition "A coded value specifying how often doses are administered." [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
17:07:48 <ericP> eric: skos:definition "Total of all doses of this agent in a given period of time."
Eric Prud'hommeaux: skos:definition "Total of all doses of this agent in a given period of time." [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
17:07:54 <Zakim> -Guus_Schreiber
Zakim IRC Bot: -Guus_Schreiber ←
17:08:28 <Zakim> -AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: -AZ ←
17:11:35 <ericP> eric: skos:example "national number", "registry identifier", "sponsor protocol number".
Eric Prud'hommeaux: skos:example "national number", "registry identifier", "sponsor protocol number". [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
17:12:31 <gavinc> gavin: dc:description "The Resource Description Framework (Rdf) is a structure for describing and interchanging metadata on the Web-anything from library catalogs and worldwide directories to bioinformatics, Mozilla internal data structures, and knowledge bases for artificial intelligence projects. Rdf provides a consistent framework and syntax for describing and querying data, making it possible to share website descriptions more easily. Rdf's capabilities, however,
Gavin Carothers: dc:description "The Resource Description Framework (Rdf) is a structure for describing and interchanging metadata on the Web-anything from library catalogs and worldwide directories to bioinformatics, Mozilla internal data structures, and knowledge bases for artificial intelligence projects. Rdf provides a consistent framework and syntax for describing and querying data, making it possible to share website descriptions more easily. Rdf's capabilities, however, [ Scribe Assist by Gavin Carothers ] ←
17:12:33 <gavinc> have long been shrouded by its reputation for complexity and a difficult family of specifications. Practical Rdf breaks through this reputation with immediate and solvable problems to help you understand, master, and implement Rdf solutions. Practical Rdf explains Rdf from the ground up, providing real-world examples and descriptions of how the technology is being used in applications like Mozilla, Foaf, and Chandler, as well as infrastructure you can use to
Gavin Carothers: have long been shrouded by its reputation for complexity and a difficult family of specifications. Practical Rdf breaks through this reputation with immediate and solvable problems to help you understand, master, and implement Rdf solutions. Practical Rdf explains Rdf from the ground up, providing real-world examples and descriptions of how the technology is being used in applications like Mozilla, Foaf, and Chandler, as well as infrastructure you can use to ←
17:12:34 <gavinc> build your own applications. This book cuts to the heart of the W3C's often obscure specifications, giving you tools to apply Rdf successfully in your own projects. The first part of the book focuses on the Rdf specifications. After an introduction to Rdf, the book covers the Rdf specification documents themselves, including Rdf Semantics and Concepts and Abstract Model specifications, Rdf constructs, and the Rdf Schema. The second section focuses on
Gavin Carothers: build your own applications. This book cuts to the heart of the W3C's often obscure specifications, giving you tools to apply Rdf successfully in your own projects. The first part of the book focuses on the Rdf specifications. After an introduction to Rdf, the book covers the Rdf specification documents themselves, including Rdf Semantics and Concepts and Abstract Model specifications, Rdf constructs, and the Rdf Schema. The second section focuses on ←
17:12:36 <gavinc> programming language support, and the tools and utilities that allow developers to review, edit, parse, store, and manipulate Rdf/Xml. Subsequent sections focus on Rdf's data roots, programming and framework support, and practical implementation and use of Rdf and Rdf/Xml. If you want to know how to apply Rdf to information processing, Practical Rdf is for you. Whether your interests lie in large-scale information aggregation and analysis or in smaller-scale
Gavin Carothers: programming language support, and the tools and utilities that allow developers to review, edit, parse, store, and manipulate Rdf/Xml. Subsequent sections focus on Rdf's data roots, programming and framework support, and practical implementation and use of Rdf and Rdf/Xml. If you want to know how to apply Rdf to information processing, Practical Rdf is for you. Whether your interests lie in large-scale information aggregation and analysis or in smaller-scale ←
17:12:37 <gavinc> projects like weblog syndication, this book will provide you with a solid foundation for working with Rdf."
Gavin Carothers: projects like weblog syndication, this book will provide you with a solid foundation for working with Rdf." ←
17:13:24 <markus> sandro, just looked at your mail.. you use rdfs:isDefinedBy on properties/classes to point to the spec.. shouldn't that point to the vocabulary/ontology?
Markus Lanthaler: sandro, just looked at your mail.. you use rdfs:isDefinedBy on properties/classes to point to the spec.. shouldn't that point to the vocabulary/ontology? ←
17:13:38 <TallTed> +1 for length progression rdfs:label -> rdfs:comment -> dc:description
Ted Thibodeau: +1 for length progression rdfs:label -> rdfs:comment -> dc:description ←
17:13:38 <TallTed> ted: skos:definition feels more formal than dc:description to me...
Ted Thibodeau: skos:definition feels more formal than dc:description to me... [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ] ←
17:13:42 <sandro> good question, markus
Sandro Hawke: good question, markus ←
17:14:06 <tbaker> +1 for dc:description
Thomas Baker: +1 for dc:description ←
17:14:26 <ericP> ack me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me ←
17:17:03 <gavinc> "This property may be used to indicate an RDF vocabulary in which a resource is described."
Gavin Carothers: "This property may be used to indicate an RDF vocabulary in which a resource is described." ←
17:18:03 <tbaker> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor> rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/>
Thomas Baker: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor> rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> ←
17:18:54 <Zakim> -David_Wood
Zakim IRC Bot: -David_Wood ←
17:19:12 <tbaker> <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core>
Thomas Baker: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core> ←
17:19:40 <tbaker> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Document> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
Thomas Baker: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Document> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> ←
17:19:43 <TallTed> http://www.w3.org/2007/05/powder-s#describedby
Ted Thibodeau: http://www.w3.org/2007/05/powder-s#describedby ←
17:19:54 <TallTed> An RDF property to exactly match the describedby relationship type introduced in http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#assoc-linking and formally defined in appendix D of the same document, i.e. the relationship A 'describedby' B asserts that resource B provides a description of resource A. There are no constraints on the format or representation of either A or B, neither are there any further constraints on either resource.
Ted Thibodeau: An RDF property to exactly match the describedby relationship type introduced in http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#assoc-linking and formally defined in appendix D of the same document, i.e. the relationship A 'describedby' B asserts that resource B provides a description of resource A. There are no constraints on the format or representation of either A or B, neither are there any further constraints on either resource. ←
17:20:51 <tbaker> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
Thomas Baker: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Class> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#isDefinedBy> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> ←
17:24:53 <tbaker> +1 rationale should be documented if a new BP property is coined
Thomas Baker: +1 rationale should be documented if a new BP property is coined ←
17:24:55 <TallTed> maaaaayyyyybe http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-describedby
Ted Thibodeau: maaaaayyyyybe http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/states_and_properties#aria-describedby ←
17:25:49 <gavinc> TallTed: NOT aria ;)
Ted Thibodeau: NOT aria ;) [ Scribe Assist by Gavin Carothers ] ←
17:26:16 <ericP> +1 to not listing vapid meta-meta-meta triples
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to not listing vapid meta-meta-meta triples ←
17:28:43 <ericP> use a small typeface?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: use a small typeface? ←
17:30:07 <ericP> +1 to not including "schema"
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to not including "schema" ←
17:30:08 <tbaker> http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/skos.html
Thomas Baker: http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/skos.html ←
17:32:56 <sandro> "RDF Concepts Vocabulary"
Sandro Hawke: "RDF Concepts Vocabulary" ←
17:33:16 <ericP> +1 to ASN1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to ASN1 ←
17:33:28 <ericP> and OBO
Eric Prud'hommeaux: and OBO ←
17:34:08 <pchampin> GTG guys, sorry; bye
Pierre-Antoine Champin: GTG guys, sorry; bye ←
17:34:37 <pfps> trackbot, end meeting
trackbot, end meeting ←
17:34:37 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
17:34:37 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Guus_Schreiber, AndyS, gkellogg, GavinC, David_Wood, yvesr, pfps, Arnaud, TallTed, cygri, Sandro, markus, tbaker, ericP, pchampin, AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Guus_Schreiber, AndyS, gkellogg, GavinC, David_Wood, yvesr, pfps, Arnaud, TallTed, cygri, Sandro, markus, tbaker, ericP, pchampin, AZ ←
17:34:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
17:34:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot ←
17:34:46 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-actions.rdf : ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: eric to send email on Turtle unintentional error recovery [1]
ACTION: eric to send email on Turtle unintentional error recovery [1] ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-25-29
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-25-29 ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: guus to add pointer to errata page from notes [2]
ACTION: guus to add pointer to errata page from notes [2] ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-33-15
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-33-15 ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AZ to send Pat an email to get him to review Datasets, and make any changes for 19 Feb [3]
ACTION: AZ to send Pat an email to get him to review Datasets, and make any changes for 19 Feb [3] ←
17:34:46 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-43-08
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-rdf-wg-irc#T16-43-08 ←
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